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´We don´t shower for a
month... and we´re often naked´:
Male soldiers warn female
comrades of harsh conditions on
frontline as Panetta lifts
battlefield ban on women

Daily Mail (UK), by Staff

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Posted By:JoniTx, 1/24/2013 10:39:15 AM

A number of former soldiers have spoken out against the move because of the tough logistical life of fighters on the front line, even though many outsiders see Defense Secretary Leon Panetta´s decision to lift the ban on women serving in combat positions as a progressive move. Some have spoken out about how the move ignores some of the realities of war, like disgusting unhygienic conditions and the way that soldiers are sometimes forced to change in front of one another, in favor of gender equality. One wrote a letter in the Wall Street Journal describing the conditions


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Reply 1 - Posted by: G-Tom, 1/24/2013 10:43:15 AM     (No. 9136315)

Tell me again what service branch Painetta serve in. These lefties make me want to PUKE!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Clinger, 1/24/2013 10:54:27 AM     (No. 9136337)

Just in case you aren´t disturbed enough, combine this bit of news with a potential draft in the future. Opens the door for drafting women now doesn´t it.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 1/24/2013 11:03:02 AM     (No. 9136358)

This is not progress.

Assuming none of the powers that be who thought this was a zippy idea have never served in combat, have they not read any of the books that describe what it is like? Try Sebastian Junger´s War, on Afghanistan. Or any number of books about WWII.

We do not see this in the Hollywood versions of war.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 1/24/2013 11:08:55 AM     (No. 9136372)

Get ready for a spate of sexual harassment lawsuits followed by busted careers of some darn good fighting men. Yep, the military is going down for the sake of liberal ideology.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: billp, 1/24/2013 11:09:48 AM     (No. 9136374)

A bad idea brought to the forefront by a bad member of a bad administration.

Bad news - all the way around.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: retiree, 1/24/2013 11:10:28 AM     (No. 9136376)

Maybe it is because not enough men are volunteering any more. When they can´t even protect themselves unless they are shot at. The rules of engagement are just plain dumb.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 1/24/2013 11:18:36 AM     (No. 9136400)

Note the photo of the female soldier wearing a head scarf instead of protective head gear. This is utter foolishness.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: lakerman1, 1/24/2013 11:25:16 AM     (No. 9136419)

my old h.s. sweetheart would like the naked part, which she was, often, at the frat parties - but not with me.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: JAN, 1/24/2013 11:27:53 AM     (No. 9136427)

Seems to me our esteemed secretary of state doesn´t shower for at least a month.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: FLCracker, 1/24/2013 11:34:24 AM     (No. 9136442)

I think it´s interesting that this argument always comes down to poor hygene habits amongst males.

German Army: We don´t used deodorant in the field!

American Army: What if I have to pee in my foxhole?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Safari Man, 1/24/2013 11:34:48 AM     (No. 9136443)

My sister don´t wanna get drafted
She don´t wanna go

Wars are really ugly, they´re dirty and they´re cold.
I don´t want nobody to shoot her in the foxhole.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Pearson365, 1/24/2013 11:44:21 AM     (No. 9136482)

Leon served in the First Heavy Pork Division (To the victors go the spoils) fighting to give contracts to Democratic donors while under heavy Republican fire.

Barack Obama served in the Very Light Infantry Brigade, The Screaming Metrosexuals, based in Chicago. Hillary claimed in a NY Times article designed to shift focus away from Bill´s draft dodging that she wanted to join military. However, military rejected her because male soldiers didn´t want to risk seeing her naked, showered or not. She did come under fire for Benghazi, but escaped without a scratch.

It´s all a farce, and we are the audience.

Piñata´s afternoon announcement was designed to shift evening news away from Hillary´s testimony. Longer term, Obama and Hagel will use GOP efforts to keep woman out of combat for more War on Women PR..

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Reply 13 - Posted by: TXknitter, 1/24/2013 11:47:25 AM     (No. 9136490)

#1, exactly. Having been in the military SERVING is important in our top leadership roles - including President.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: jimmiet, 1/24/2013 12:16:31 PM     (No. 9136578)

Chucky Schumer stated that he didn´t know anyone who owned gun. Does Panetta even know a soldier?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 1/24/2013 12:18:47 PM     (No. 9136586)

Hmmmmmmm, males don`t shower for a month at a time yet female soldiers still get pregnant.

How does that work?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: udanja99, 1/24/2013 12:21:17 PM     (No. 9136595)

I´m a woman and I´m trying to visualize dealing with my period while in a trench with a bunch of guys. No thanks.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: killerbee, 1/24/2013 12:27:51 PM     (No. 9136614)

The thing is, most women don´t want to be on the front lines. They know they´re not equipped for it in many ways, including strength and temperament.

But if a woman can pass all the rigors of training that the men do -- without exception -- then it seems like they´d just be another asset. The social implications are always the monkey wrench, though.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Rivetjoint, 1/24/2013 12:32:00 PM     (No. 9136627)

Somebody must have seen the co-ed shower scene in ´Starship Troopers´ and decided that co-ed combat would be really neat.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: lasvegaslou, 1/24/2013 12:36:50 PM     (No. 9136636)

I don´t think anybody brought it up yet but combat situations often make you really horny, especially when anyone of the opposite sex is around. I understand it is a survival of the species thing. It´s nice of the brass to think about our combat troops and provide them with a little "companionship."

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Reply 20 - Posted by: leftcoastmom, 1/24/2013 12:38:06 PM     (No. 9136639)

Will Midol be part of the rations?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 1/24/2013 12:38:24 PM     (No. 9136640)

A soldier called in this morning on Laura Ingraham´s show and said while he was in combat the men didn´t get a shower for 90 DAYS. Some of the women were helicoptered out to give them showers. This is just a disaster of epic proportions. The ramifications of this horrible decision are endless. This is just what 0bama wants, to create chaos everywhere, no matter what segment of society.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: on fire, 1/24/2013 12:47:18 PM     (No. 9136659)

Tired women force the guys to choose: I know the guys in training rotate carry the womens´ gear because she just can´t keep up and they have to help her out at the end of the day to keep up with the group.

This kind of thinking forces young men to decide to leave behind a flagging female or risk more of them being hurt or worse.

How much do I despise this government for forcing good men to make these kind of decisions.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/24/2013 12:47:55 PM     (No. 9136662)

Through the contracting magic of companies like KBR and Fluor there are hot showers and video games and good food at even the smallest FOB´s and COP´s in Afghanistan.

Been there.

Done that.

Got the Tee Shirt.

Let´s make the military exclusively female.

So next time we lose a war (as we always do)

we can simply say: "Big deal...so you beat a
bunch of girls !!"

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Arizona Chief, 1/24/2013 1:22:24 PM     (No. 9136760)

Has anyone asked Panetta what he is trying to prove? Once a hack always a hack.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: KingBubo, 1/24/2013 1:23:37 PM     (No. 9136766)

If they can meet the physical stadards without them being waterred down, let them serve.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: dave29299, 1/24/2013 1:29:49 PM     (No. 9136780)

And what happens when, in the chaos of combat, women lose their Urinary Diversion Devices? What happens when supply lines prioritize, um, ammo and ordinance over boxes of “menstrual suppression pills”?

In the meantime, our enemies will be bright enough to know that men make better soldiers than women. Our gender-compromised battalions will be up against the uniformity, and cohesive uncompromised morale, of MEN.

You couldn’t destruct this country better than if by plan. I wonder…

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Reply 27 - Posted by: rbruce20, 1/24/2013 1:34:48 PM     (No. 9136788)

All women within the right age group need to register with the Selective Service. And, women should not be given the choice to go into combat. Men don´t have a choice, why should women? That means every women needs to meet the same physical standards as men.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Trigger2, 1/24/2013 2:14:30 PM     (No. 9136898)

The first time a female gets her head chopped off and hung on a bridge pike, I hope someone takes a picture and spreads it all over the internet with a message saying demonrats have reaped what they´ve sown.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: velox, 1/24/2013 9:24:09 PM     (No. 9137698)

This has nothing to do with womens right of equality.
It is designed to demoralize our military and to weaken them.
Its just another brick in the wall.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Pinchem, 1/25/2013 4:29:12 AM     (No. 9137952)

If people are so hung up on what is on the outside of a body then how can they respect what is inside the body? For centuries we have been brainwashed into being ashamed of having a normal human body. We are so ashamed that we have to cover up to console our false sense of reality.

Someone once told me that we must honor and respect all of God´s creations. Well when it comes to the human body some tell God to "stick it". It´s not really a matter of morals, it´s a matter of what and who we truly are.

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