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No Clue,Studies Find
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Incompetent People Really Have
No Clue,Studies Find

San Francisco Examiner, by Erica Goode

Original Article

Posted By:MattMusson, 1/23/2013 3:18:32 PM

There are many incompetent people in the world. Dr. David A. Dunning is haunted by the fear that he might be one of them. Dunning, a professor of psychology at Cornell, worries about this because, according to his research, most incompetent people do not know that they are incompetent. On the contrary. People who do things badly, Dunning has found in studies conducted with a graduate student, Justin Kruger, are usually supremely confident of their abilities -- more confident, in fact, than people who do things well. "I began to think that there were probably lots of things that I was bad at, and I didn't know it," Dunning said.
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This explains where Obama´s confidence comes from. Incompetent people are more confident of themselves, than are people who are capable.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: GardenGal, 1/23/2013 3:28:53 PM     (No. 9134823)

It has been so hard to impress on my children that they are actually smarter than average. Like this study says, they continue to think that everyone thinks like they do and therefore they aren´t all that smart. It hindered my son who was so convinced that he was nothing special and why should anyone hire him? Now he is getting the extra hours that others aren´t getting and he has been chosen to get the promotion and into a more responsible job. I hope he stops selling himself short. Oh and I should note that we instilled the work ethic in our kids and they actually do the job and turn up on time too.


Reply 2 - Posted by: WAN2, 1/23/2013 3:31:34 PM     (No. 9134826)

So if I´m stupid, I´ll think I´m smart? And if I´m smart, I´ll think I´m stupid? Sorry. Egos don´t work that way at any IQ level.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: deepthinker, 1/23/2013 3:34:13 PM     (No. 9134830)

There is a serious moral and ethical dimension to this. Remember the 7 Deadly Sins and their opposite virtues? Think about Pride vs Humility. Chesterton, in one of his Father Brown stories, wrote about the "arrogance of guessing".

The MSDNC hatemongers wallow in the unspoken pretense that they have some psychic power to see into the hearts of others and pompously declare them to be racist, uncaring, haters-of-true-science, etc.


Reply 4 - Posted by: wsdiego, 1/23/2013 3:35:56 PM     (No. 9134832)

It when I´m going to prove everybody wrong! EGO anybody!


Reply 5 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/23/2013 3:37:15 PM     (No. 9134834)

Like I was asking Donald Trump at lunch last week......"If you´re so rich.....why ain´t you smart ??"


Reply 6 - Posted by: gramma b, 1/23/2013 3:39:23 PM     (No. 9134837)

Obama is certainly an example of this. But Michelle is an even better example. The woman is a dolt. But she´s been told all her life she´s something special, just because of the color of her skin. In fact, suspect that affirmative action really magnifies the phenomenon discussed in the article for just that reason.


Reply 7 - Posted by: keekng, 1/23/2013 3:45:37 PM     (No. 9134844)

Let´s hope Bam Bam is paying attention.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: JHSMom02, 1/23/2013 3:47:29 PM     (No. 9134846)

This article explains Democrats, especially democrats of the liberal or progressive types, which are pretty much all democrats in political office and the media.


Reply 9 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 1/23/2013 4:08:41 PM     (No. 9134898)

This DEFINITELY applies to the BO and Dem/Leftie voters. They are woefully ignorant of facts and of facts about events. And what makes matters so much worse, they show no intellectual curiosity.


Reply 10 - Posted by: vesicant, 1/23/2013 4:14:38 PM     (No. 9134908)

Apparently one of the things Dunning is bad at is knowing that there have already been many studies like this.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Stlouislaxbros dad, 1/23/2013 4:16:33 PM     (No. 9134915)


This article describes the Democrats.

They all feel they are entitled to "good paying high quality jobs" but possess no skills and are not willing to study and work for them.

They all think they are sooo smart...but hey...keep sending them those government checks which come from my taxes.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Whamdbambam, 1/23/2013 4:16:36 PM     (No. 9134916)

See, e.g. the Democrat Party.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/23/2013 4:22:45 PM     (No. 9134926)

That explains the entire Democrat party and the other leftists who support them.


Reply 14 - Posted by: lil dotty, 1/23/2013 4:56:34 PM     (No. 9134996)

And to think this study is reported from San Francisco.


Reply 15 - Posted by: gillyo, 1/23/2013 4:59:40 PM     (No. 9134998)

It´s obvious that incompetent people don´t think they´re incompetent. Lack of self-awareness is one of their main areas of incompetence.

If it weren´t for those achievers who were smart enough to know they didn´t know everything, we wouldn´t have the advanced technological society we have today.

Realizing you have a long way to go is a huge motivating factor in getting there. I´ve yet to meet a really talented, truly intelligent person who doesn´t think they can improve.




Reply 16 - Posted by: paulfromTexas, 1/23/2013 5:22:11 PM     (No. 9135026)

These findinggs can be carried into the roots of the "god complex" that doctors and professors occupy.
A poor performer amongst many others is not visible.
All these yrs of the US Dept of Education telling us it´s a ´TBall world and everybody gets a trophy, feel good about yourself´ has reinforced this irreality among many professionals.


Reply 17 - Posted by: Cor-vet, 1/23/2013 5:46:15 PM     (No. 9135070)

Schumer, Feinstein, Jackson-Lee, Waters, Wasserman-Schultz and Murray, leading the pack!


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: wilarrbie, 1/23/2013 5:58:06 PM     (No. 9135087)

I have to chuckle at all those who are referencing this to Democrats. I´ll bet you $5 that the same article ran on one of their websites and THEY are all pointing at us!
It´s all a matter of perception and perspective.


Reply 19 - Posted by: aintnojoke, 1/23/2013 6:18:28 PM     (No. 9135130)

One smart feller, he felt smart ...


Reply 20 - Posted by: Rafter, 1/23/2013 7:13:49 PM     (No. 9135214)

Who will "bell the cat"?

Who will send this memo to...
Hill-err-ee-ass Herself... ?

She was the very picture of idiocy in her histrionic performance at the
Congressional hearings today on Capitol Hill.

No wonder she defends Non-White Rice, Half-White Obie WON Kenya-Obie, and all their
half-baked sets of lies.

Idiots honestly believe they are right.
Clueless is as Clueless does.
And it gets lots of peeps killed.
"Mistakes were made." .... Duh....


Reply 21 - Posted by: dvc, 1/23/2013 7:53:54 PM     (No. 9135258)

After earning a couple of engineering degrees, I had a pretty decent handle on how much there is in the world that I DIDN´T know. Also, I figured that while I was probably smarter than average, I was far from the smartest guy around. Helps keep you humble and working to improve. I have frequently quoted that great American philosopher, Harry Callahan - " A man has got to know his limitations."

D´rats ALWAYS get it wrong but never seem to be bothered that ALL their policies fail and usually produce the opposite of the results that they claim to have intended.

I guess it comes down to "Idiots are too stupid to even know that they are idiots."


Reply 22 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 1/23/2013 8:20:00 PM     (No. 9135290)

I suppose what is measured as being competent should matter - life outcomes - like divorces etc.

That said, I doubt that the typical left-winger could survive in the private sector -beyond working as book-store clerks or baristas. The famous ones - a Kennedy - sure they survive - insulated by cash and connections. I recall that George McGovern - after his defeat in 1972 bought a B and B in New England - only to find out how difficult the private sector really was. I do not think that he thrived.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/23/2013 9:41:33 PM     (No. 9135402)

"Incompetent People Really Have No Clue, Studies Find"

Not so sure of that. Usually, they detest anyone they think is smarter than them.



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