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Topic: Sandy Hook Victim´s Uncle Offers
Proposal to Prevent Mass Shootings |
Sandy Hook Victim´s Uncle Offers
Proposal to Prevent Mass Shootings
Breitbart´s Big Government, by John Sexton
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Posted By:KarenJ1, 1/23/2013 10:53:21 AM
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| The uncle of one of the children killed at Sandy Hook Elementary has proposed new legislation designed to reduce future mass shootings without resorting to gun bans. Lawyer Alexis Haller is the uncle of Noah Pozner, who was killed by Adam Lanza in Newtown, CT last month. Haller recently flew from his home in Seattle to Washington, D.C. to make his case for a series of plans designed to prevent future mass shootings. Unlike other proposals currently on the table, Haller is not seeking to ban anything. His idea covers
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
manitouman, 1/23/2013 11:00:05 AM (No. 9134120)
So someone steals my gun - I´m charged with a crime.
Someone steals my gun and discharges it - I´m a felon.
No wonder liberals are so obsessed with calling themselves smart.
Why don´t I just turn myself into the nearest detention center in advance, because someone might "think about" stealing my gun?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
pointyhead, 1/23/2013 11:06:31 AM (No. 9134141)
So, if someoone steals Mr. Haller´s car and kills someone with it, does Mr. Haller get arrested and charged with murder? Same poont.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
BaseballFan, 1/23/2013 11:33:08 AM (No. 9134235)
So the guns that were stolen via a burglary thanks to the idiots at NY Journal News publishing a map showing the addresses of the owners - - can the publisher/editor/staff be held liable if/when those guns are used in a crime?
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
tocsin, 1/23/2013 11:37:22 AM (No. 9134252)
Lawyers continue to prove themselves the bloodsuckers of the Nation.
His ´´law´´ is so ambiguous as to be a lawyer´s dream.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
nycvoter, 1/23/2013 11:49:42 AM (No. 9134296)
As long as you took steps to safeguard the weapons such as leaving them in a safe when you are out of the house you should not be held liable. It is one thing for someone to steal them when you have taken reasonable steps to secure the weapons. It is another thing completely for someone like lanza´s mother to just leave them in a close unlocked when she had a psychotic son. But yes, lawyers would screw this up as well.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
ccyr, 1/23/2013 11:50:14 AM (No. 9134300)
We need to carefully differentiate between mental illness (for example, somebody with depression "the common cold of mental illness") and phychosis or delerium. They are VERY different. The unintended consequence of lumping them all together is to freeze out people who have very treatable cases of depression from going to the doctor for fear of being stigmatized.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
MisterDickens, 1/23/2013 11:59:29 AM (No. 9134337)
Weeding out the ´what if" scenarios that people always come up with, the proposals actually make some sense to me. If I am right, and they do make sense, then rest assured they will never be passed into law simply because they don´t ban any guns and banning guns is the ultimate goal of our communist controlled federal government.
Wonder how long it will be before I am hunted down and silenced for pointing out the obvious direction our federal government is headed?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
oh-heck, 1/23/2013 12:03:52 PM (No. 9134355)
Lawyers already have sufficient excuses to sue. We don´t need new laws. Whenever you have a criminal offense with really minimal penalties, you create the opportunity for a lawyer to go to civil court with the guilty or no lo contendere plea as an opportunity for collecting big bucks.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
yuban, 1/23/2013 12:17:14 PM (No. 9134398)
When the burglar, thief, rapist, murderer, etc enters your home and your weapons are in a safe, you are had. Makes sense to keep away from kids but your weapon must be handy and ready to fire if you are concerned for your safety. Have a safe to store them when you leave the home.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Teejaw, 1/23/2013 12:32:49 PM (No. 9134432)
The NRA will back his suggestion. It has long been NRA policy that gun owners have a responsibility to store their guns so that unauthorized persons cannot access them.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Teejaw, 1/23/2013 12:35:54 PM (No. 9134441)
The duty to store guns so that unauthorized persons cannot access them does not make any exception for a gun “on duty” for personal protection. That is the gun you most do not want to fall into the hands of an unauthorized person.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
mitzi, 1/23/2013 12:41:24 PM (No. 9134453)
Would this make Eric Holder guilty of murder if any of those guns were used in the US in a murder?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
smcchk, 1/23/2013 12:42:07 PM (No. 9134456)
I think the proposals are very reasonable. With ownership of a gun(s) there comes responsibility. There is no reason to reflexively dismiss any new idea.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
kafir091101, 1/23/2013 12:46:01 PM (No. 9134471)
I’m waiting to read the Rabbit’s take on this. Inquiring minds want to know!
FWIW: I have read that the mother kept the firearms in a ‘lock-box’ and all this crap about them being stored in an unlocked closet is just pure Barbra Streisand pushed mainly by the NY Daily News who is extremely anti gun as they pander the NYC metrosexual crowd.
She was after all a Prepper and was very into self-reliance/personal-protection/security and I just don’t see her being irresponsible with her firearms.
She was killed when she returned from a two day Retreat in NH and I don’t think she would have left her guns ‘laying’ around the house knowing what a flake her son was.
It is entirely possible that while she was gone, the little Efin-Punk used his dad’s Dremel to grind the lock/hinges away and gained access to the firearms that way.
Why have we not heard from the police about entry to the lock box?
Did he break into it or get the key from his unconscious mother?
Kafir
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
belwhatter, 1/23/2013 12:52:02 PM (No. 9134489)
How sure is anyone that the boy killed the mother? I haven´t heard anything yet that confirms him as her shooter -
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
ColonialAmerican1623, 1/23/2013 10:51:53 PM (No. 9135512)
I know, let´s ask the shooters in Chicago what their opion is on the matter.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
NYbob, 1/23/2013 11:24:13 PM (No. 9135552)
If you are in charge of a ´secured´ door, SECURE it. A 1" panel of polycarbonate plastic isn´t very expensive and would have stopped the maniac at the door. Also no tasers, no chemical spray? A red lettered sign and now democrat intellectuals disarm by fiat, hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. More death and mayhem will follow the failure of the person in charge of security at Newtown to do their job.
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