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Time for a new Fox?
Daily Caller, by Mickey Kaus

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 1/22/2013 11:55:08 AM

Does Fox News now have an All-Amnesty lineup? Looks like it. Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly have now fallen in line behind World Citizen Rupert Murdoch’s support of ”sweeping, generous immigration reform,” including a “path to citizenship.” Karl Rove was always on board, of course. What about Fox News’ viewers? Are they going to go along like sheep? They now have no network that represents their perspective on what seems to be a key issue for Obama’s second term. Is it time for a new Fox? (Wouldn’t it be time for a new Fox anyway?

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And just who would start this enterprise?? Fox hasn´t gone completely to the dark side, but they are well on their way. Still, they are better than any other cable news channel out there.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 1/22/2013 11:58:07 AM     (No. 9132371)

Yay! Let´s all leave our doors and windows unlocked lest we interfere with thieves as they seek a better life.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 1/22/2013 11:59:09 AM     (No. 9132374)

The whole discussion about immigration reform is stupid. The time is rapidly approaching when immigrants simply won´t want to come to the U.S. because things won´t be any better than they are where they already live. No jobs, inferior health care, a slum to live in, who wants it?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: youngtexan, 1/22/2013 11:59:12 AM     (No. 9132375)

Looks like I´m gonna say hello to Glenn Beck´s website. Yeah, I´ll have to pay for it but it´ll probably be worth it.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: rep60, 1/22/2013 12:01:44 PM     (No. 9132387)

This is where Glenn Beck was supposed to go!!! The Tea Party rose up with amazing success which I believe to be, in part, to Beck´s support (along with Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann). When his show left the air... the air went out of the Tea Party as a movement.

I knew it was a mistake for him to leave that show and it may have cost us this election with the fracturing of the Tea Party and the scum of America desecrating it at every opportunity.

I pray God now intervenes to save our Republic as the Republicans have dismissed the Tea Party as radicals - there just doesn´t seem to be a viable movement left to combat the socialist who choking out the American way of life now... I´ll simply pray!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: calgrammy, 1/22/2013 12:07:16 PM     (No. 9132397)

I watch Glen Beck´s The Blaze Network on DISH. No screaming liberals. Channel 212.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: WAN2, 1/22/2013 12:08:35 PM     (No. 9132399)

Indeed, we are simply "not viable" any longer. The socialist tide floats all boats. And networks. And pundits. Even Rush is left farting in the wind as his audience maxes out. While still a believer, I tune him out after an hour due to suicidal urges setting in. When all around you lose their heads, join in lest you want yours on a stick.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: MDConservative, 1/22/2013 12:12:11 PM     (No. 9132410)

You mean Fox and its lineup of "conservatives" are presstitutes, too? Hannity used to paint stuff coming up the hard way, too. Just a working stiff driving a hybrid Escalade. Pfft!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: graniteman2009, 1/22/2013 12:20:09 PM     (No. 9132427)

I have a got deal for all of the liberals, lets start with Murdoch, Maher, Schumur, Mikey Moore. We will do immigration reform THEIR way but...They can no longer live behind their walled compounds and they no longer have doors to their homes.

Deal?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: dolphin, 1/22/2013 12:20:48 PM     (No. 9132429)

I only watch FOX if Ann Coulter is on.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: CEP, 1/22/2013 12:34:54 PM     (No. 9132460)

#8, no one is the answer except ourselves. We are the answer. Just continue to do what we do and come down hard on Congress.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: JudithC, 1/22/2013 12:40:29 PM     (No. 9132479)

Our entire family and all our friends have turned FOX off for good. The only time I go to FOX is to see the first half of Bret Baier. If he´s followed by a panel that includes Juan Williams, Kirsten Powers, whatever her name is Stoddard, and the other RAT flamers, its tune out time.

Karl Rove has been a light for FOX and the thanks for what he brings is the dung now being dished at him with Ailes´/Murdock´s approval. There is nothing left to watch. We tuned out network years ago, I wouldn´t watch any other cable, listen to Rush daily, and my principle source is the web—I tune in FOX only for event stuff and then often miss it. Even Brit Hume has taken a dive and where he once was a voice to listen to, that´s long gone. Charles Krauthammer is carrying Fox and when they can him, which is likely ahead, that will put the last stone on the pile.

I´ve written to Fox, sent emails. Nothing. Time to tune out? You bet. It´s long overdue.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Anner40, 1/22/2013 12:41:13 PM     (No. 9132481)

They have sworn to crush the Republican Party and this is how they do it....plant items like this....and then watch to see if it works.....

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Reply 13 - Posted by: viking diver, 1/22/2013 12:41:28 PM     (No. 9132483)

hannity is a do as I say not as I do person (except for the military and there I´ll give him kudos) mainly using platitudes and sayings over and over to let people blow off steam. he has been a faithfully follower of the "architect" since day one, and praised our new supreme court head justist john roberts as the best thing since sliced bread. Too many strikes on Fox news and their line up of "conservative reporters"

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Reply 14 - Posted by: tulipwood, 1/22/2013 12:43:35 PM     (No. 9132489)

It is DEFINITELY time for a new Fox. It would be very, very popular. People are desperate for a new Fox.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Gretchen, 1/22/2013 12:50:11 PM     (No. 9132516)

All politics is local. That is where it begins and ends.

Also, evil puffs itself up, attempts to discourage and bring despair. Evil is never, never as large as it makes itself out to be.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Haskell, 1/22/2013 12:51:15 PM     (No. 9132518)


FNC: Put Bill Hemmer in Shep´s 70pm slot.


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Reply 17 - Posted by: yuban, 1/22/2013 12:52:47 PM     (No. 9132525)

Fox has outsmarted itself. Haven´t watched it in nearly 2 yrs but I keep tabs on it´s move leftward. Seems many in the GOP are moving right along with them.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/22/2013 12:56:57 PM     (No. 9132533)

No matter what the clones on Fox say, there is no way that the Republicans can go along with the liberal Democrats and put all the illegal aliens on a "path to citizenship", if the Republicans did that, they would be committing long-term national suicide.

Nobody knows for sure how many illegal aliens are here now, the liberal media propaganda puts the figure at 11 millions but in reality it could be 20 million people. After being legalized under any sort of a liberal Democrat amnesty the legalized aliens would gain the right to bring their foreign relatives here in the years ahead. That could easily encompass 20 million more aliens in the next decade.

Most illegal aliens are poor low income earners who come from socialist oriented third world countries. Once legalized with US voting rights they would overwhelmingly vote for the liberal Democrats who would promise them all sorts of new rights, benefits and services in turn for their votes. With the liberal Democrats gaining tens of millions of new foreign born voters the Republicans would never again be able to win national elections.

Listen to Marco Rubio who wants to legalize long time illegal aliens by granting them a temporary immigration status without a "path to citizenship" until they individually meet the normal requirements that all legal immigrants must meet to quality for an immigrant visa under current law. The liberal Democrats will never go along with that and lose tens of million of new votes.



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Reply 19 - Posted by: homjett, 1/22/2013 12:57:09 PM     (No. 9132534)

Fox an Friends First, is my wake up, feel good, day brighter. Where else can you get the news an look at some of the best legs in TV. (laughing). As far as the Latino problem goes, we need to get them into the GOP Party, if we have any chance of getting back the Presidency. Fox still is the best of the Cable News Outlets. The Libs get a little annoying but their views is a balance.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 1/22/2013 12:58:10 PM     (No. 9132536)

I don´t care who you are. That there Shep´s a scary boy.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: JAN, 1/22/2013 12:59:15 PM     (No. 9132539)

Fox fired Beck, hired Beckel and the end was in sight.

Now they have Dennis Kucinich on their team.

Not that I would notice, I haven´t watched FNC in months.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: fljack, 1/22/2013 1:07:50 PM     (No. 9132567)

Hannity is an idiot who not only beats a dead horse, he beats its skeleton, then its dust. He is a one note tune, at best.
I came from a very similar backgroud to O´Reilly on Long Island and grew up around the same time. He is a nasty piece of work, as nasty as the Irish can be. I cannot stand him.

Beck was ok, but he did not bring the humor of his radio program to the fox tv stage and lost his audience there.

If any panel has Bill Kristol as the voice of the republicans/conservatives on it, I change the channel.

Face it. With nearly 1/2 the electorate getting money from the feds, the US is lost. No media outlet, no talking heads, nothing can turn that fact around. Vote buying with our own tax dollars (and future tax dollars) has proven to be hugely successful. The dems don´t really need the illegals. They are just window dressing.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: dman, 1/22/2013 1:12:57 PM     (No. 9132576)

I was surfing "TWIT" via my Roku and ran across Leo Laporte´s NMX 2013 Keynote (TWIT Live Specials #148). Leo points out that the new media should quit the push for "eyeballs", which is the game of broadcast and cable mass media. Instead, new media should concentrate on delivering a passionate message to a dedicated "community". More of what a micro-brewery is to Anheuser-Busch.

I thought of FNC as he made his point, and concluded that a similar approach is needed for political media. I´ve always been skeptical about FNC´s "fair and balanced" approach, as it plays the game of seeking eyeballs, rather than addressing a dedicated community of conservative listeners. That skepticism has, unfortunately, been justified.

The Blaze (GBTV) is a start, but resources like Blaze, PJTV, CainTV, InfoWars, and others need to coalesce into a conservative web-network. It needs to avoid some of the mistakes of the old "America´s Voice" and become more polished like FNC. As Laporte points out, it is much cheaper to produce a webcast than a cable-cast or broadcast. Make it available on the new streaming TVs and boxes. Include advertising to keep subscriber cost low - follow the Hulu model.

It can be done. It´s time.

"Forward."

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino, 1/22/2013 1:16:42 PM     (No. 9132585)

People on this thread are wondering whom we can turn to - - but he´s right there - - right where he´s been for years - - -

- - - the world´s sexiest man, David Gergen - - will save us all!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 1/22/2013 1:17:03 PM     (No. 9132587)

Too bad for Hannity that his "good friend al sharpton" is under contract to another network.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: ivehadit, 1/22/2013 1:17:40 PM     (No. 9132588)

Well Mickey you can count me in with Sean and Bill because I SUPPORT RUBIO on this.

Enough of you!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: NMPatriot, 1/22/2013 1:22:06 PM     (No. 9132595)

Fox suddenly shifted left when Murdoch got caught hacking into cell phones. After that, Rupert has been trumpeting leftist ideas like amnesty for illegals and now gun control. I haven´t watched since the central planner in the amerikan kremlin (val jarrett) blackmailed him to avoid prosecution here.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/22/2013 1:24:27 PM     (No. 9132597)

AND a Nationwide newspaper on the lines of USA today, but with only conservative writers, like Thomas Sowell, etc.
AND real journalists (if there are any out there).
Donald Trump might see this as a good investment..Gore had a tv station (it flopped like all things liberal)..now it is our turn. To do it and do it right.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Sinatra5, 1/22/2013 1:44:09 PM     (No. 9132639)

was a FOX viewer for the longest time. A few years ago, maybe sometime after Shep let his mascara run, I notice a subtle shift to the left that has continued.....It came to my attention that a Saudi Prince bought a large chunk of FOX stock. I think he became the second largest stock holder....they´ve been off in this household since....Absolutely time for a new FOX

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 1/22/2013 1:46:04 PM     (No. 9132643)

Rhetorical question time (I see that there are still some amnesty fans who post here). When the 10-20 million are given either green cards or full citizenship they become eligible for SS and Medicare plus a bunch of other programs. These programs are regressive only if you have to pay in at a high salary your whole working life - but highly progressive if you work fewer years, and or at a low salary.

That is, amnesty will cost the taxpayers a trillion or so dollars in new SS, Medicare obligations alone.

Again, who should pay for this?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: belwhatter, 1/22/2013 1:56:29 PM     (No. 9132662)

Inch by inch Fox is losing conservative viewers. - I do enjoy The Five - they laugh as well address all manner of issues, and putting Beckel back in his box when needed. Greta´s show is worth watching until she dives into the legal pie filling - she goes into the halls of Congress and isn´t afraid to make them give an account of their wobbliness. #24 ´s idea has merit, otherwise TV media is a wilderness.Thank goodness for the internet, and Miss Lucianne´s forum.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: noproblems, 1/22/2013 1:56:38 PM     (No. 9132663)

serious people do not watch Faux

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Reply 33 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan, 1/22/2013 2:00:18 PM     (No. 9132669)

I watch much less of Fox than I used to because I can´t stand the liberal pundits. The "fair and balanced" thing is a con because it should be called "truth and lies". Lies should never be given equal time, even if they are dispelled in the course of the conversation. There is always some loony that will believe them.

O´Reilly is me, me, me. Hannity does beat that horse to dust and then some. I can´t believe they keep Shep on 2 shows, and Megan Kelly lost me on election night when she so perkily announced the reelection of the Poseur.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: judy, 1/22/2013 2:00:41 PM     (No. 9132671)

I have not watched Fox since the election & don´t intent to return. I watch Fox & Friends & that´s it...I even gave up Hannity....

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Reply 35 - Posted by: killerbee, 1/22/2013 2:15:13 PM     (No. 9132706)

It´s outrageous that Fox has no competition. It´s success has been a clear sign that a more right-leaning, or heck, just a middle-of-the-road network has a huge market. But where are the bandwagon jumpers?

It´s very disappointing. Competition would keep Fox honest.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: zoidberg, 1/22/2013 2:40:54 PM     (No. 9132763)

Only thing I watch on Fox is The Five. The women are hot, Gutfeld is funny, Bolling is smart, and Beckel is a great punching bag.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: Penney, 1/22/2013 2:56:04 PM     (No. 9132794)

The final straw was the addition of Kucinich to the FOX line-up. THAT addition both confirmed & sealed the deal! ...FNC has come undone, just as did CNN before when its journalistic integrity became compromized & mired in the radical statist dems´ agenda. mmm mmm mmm

These days, radio and the web is where, with discernment, reality still can be found. That reality isn´t a pretty picture as the lefties are but pulling America´s Constitution and Bill of Rights out from under Life, Liberty AND The Pursuit of Happiness. It is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

0bama has now apparently become an odd sort of cult figure to the gullible, as evidenced by the wacky dems´ media coverage of the past few days.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 1/22/2013 3:20:21 PM     (No. 9132848)

I believe that Fox Cable news has gone from Fair and Balanced to just Unbalanced and they lost me as a viewer about 6 months ago. I refuse to watch Mr Williams and Mr Beckel and
the rest of the partisan leftists they have brought on board. They don´t even make any sense, much less bring anything worthwhile to the conversation. I get all my news from the Internet. Miss Dr K though.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/22/2013 3:23:56 PM     (No. 9132853)

Sean Vanity, Karl Droll, faux news...
Amnesty = death of the GOP
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Reply 40 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 1/22/2013 3:38:16 PM     (No. 9132869)

Fox committed the cardinal sin. They forgot to "dance with the one who brung ya." The lure of mega-bucks was just too strong.

Then again, almost no one ever does what´s right anymore. Why expect Fox to be any different.

I, too, have sent them many emails, all of which were unanswered and the complaints obviously ignored since nothing ever changed except to go farther and farther to the left.

Just like America, itself, they are being destroyed from within, just like the communists always do it.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: ArtieC, 1/22/2013 8:23:20 PM     (No. 9133215)

What about Fox News’ viewers? Are they going to go along like sheep?

This sheep wouldn´t know. He (I) stopped watching Hannity and O´Reilly long, long ago.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: eorsc, 1/22/2013 10:55:40 PM     (No. 9133377)

I agree about The Five. I enjoy it alot. I do not even want to see Kucinich, much less hear his opinion. I told my 65 year old daughter today that I have never been this afraid for my country in my life. I don´t think it will matter much to me what happens, but I fear for all my grandchildren and great grandchildren.

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It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

White House blames fox for
destroying Michelle’s garden

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Daily Caller, by Vince Coglianese    Original Article
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The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too


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