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Will the Gun-Grabbers
Create a ‘No Buy List’ Using
Your Prescription Records?

PJ Media, by Paula Bolyard

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 1/20/2013 11:58:08 AM

Could the Feds potentially use your prescription drug history to curtail your Second Amendment rights? In the wake of President Obama’s list of 23 executive orders — saying “If there’s even one thing that we can do to reduce this violence…” — the potential exists for the Department of Justice to use Federal drug databases to screen for “mental illnesses.” While the idea may sound far-fetched, state and federal agencies already cooperate to share information about your history of prescription drug use, including the use of medications for “psychiatric disorders.” Your doctor, your pharmacist, and your local emergency

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Calico Al, 1/20/2013 12:09:39 PM     (No. 9128130)

I would think a Drug Lord Database would be more effective.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: HPmatt, 1/20/2013 12:12:21 PM     (No. 9128139)

Mash this up against the Dodd/Frank law where the Feds have access to all of your bank accounts and they can also see where your money is. Orwell got it wrong - Big Brother was a Liberal, not a Tea Party Conservative.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: youngtexan, 1/20/2013 12:17:28 PM     (No. 9128150)

I like to see them do that to a Liberal who own guns.There are some that do own them.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: spit the bit, 1/20/2013 12:20:11 PM     (No. 9128162)

Quick answer: Yes, certainly.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: snakeoil, 1/20/2013 12:22:40 PM     (No. 9128167)

Am waiting for ØDumbø to place a web cam in my house so he can watch me 24/7. And I´ll moon him every day.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: gator, 1/20/2013 12:23:22 PM     (No. 9128169)

If we do nothing, of course they will.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Keekng, 1/20/2013 12:27:43 PM     (No. 9128179)

Agreed, #4. Of course they will if they can get away with it.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: uno, 1/20/2013 12:28:47 PM     (No. 9128184)

The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: coyote56, 1/20/2013 1:08:01 PM     (No. 9128260)

Had not thought about the pharmacy part of the Marxist bill - that puts anyone who is bipolar in jeopardy. If our Republic doesn´t wake up even Ted Cruz & Rand Paul cannot repeal the bill. Big Brother is here! II Chronicles 7:14

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Fosterdad, 1/20/2013 1:18:27 PM     (No. 9128276)

So if someone was prescribed Zyban (which is actually an anti-depressant AKA Welbutrin) to help quit smoking, he can be denied the right to buy a gun?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: udanja99, 1/20/2013 1:26:53 PM     (No. 9128292)

I´ve had problems sleeping my entire life and I take Trazodone to combat the problems. It´s a very old anti-depressant which is no longer used for depression but has been found to be a great help with sleep disorders. I take half the recommended dosage. I guess I´ll be on the no guns list.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Grambo, 1/20/2013 1:39:44 PM     (No. 9128309)

Electronic medical records (EMR’s) are being mandated under Obamacare, purportedly to improve care and lower costs, even though all evidence to date shows that they do neither. The real purpose is to establish the federal database that will allow them to do just this sort of thing. It’s here, and it’s real.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: paulfromTexas, 1/20/2013 1:42:24 PM     (No. 9128318)

The tree of liberty thirsts the greater at this news.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: lindamay, 1/20/2013 1:55:16 PM     (No. 9128351)

A comment below the article: "The Ottoman Empire banned Armenians from owning firearms in areas under Ottoman control during WW1. The people that turned in their firearms to government officials were immediately executed as potential enemies of the state. Armenians that insisted they had never owned firearms were executed for hiding weapons. The Armenians that took to the mountains with their firearms and resisted were eventually rescued by the French and British."

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Northern Redman, 1/20/2013 2:16:12 PM     (No. 9128391)

If they do, then I guess I´ll just have to become a "law breaker".

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Reply 16 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 1/20/2013 3:11:17 PM     (No. 9128474)

So many ways to undermine the Second Amendment without actually confiscating your guns.......

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Reply 17 - Posted by: commontater, 1/20/2013 3:54:02 PM     (No. 9128530)

Certainly an invasion of privacy,but consider for a moment some history of mass killings.
1999, Columbine, 12 killed: Eric Harris on Luvox,which had 4% of trial users develop mania.
1989,Stockton,5 killed: Patrick Purdy on Amitriptyline and Thorazine.
1998,Springfield,OR,2 dead,22 wounded.Kip Kinkel on Prozac and Ritalin.
1988,Winnetka IL,1 dead.6 wounded: Laurie Dann on Anafranil and Lithium.
1989, Louiville KY,9 dead.Joe Wesbecker on Prozac.
2005,Red Lake Resevation MN,9 dead,Jeff Weise was on Prozac.
2001,Andrea Yates drowned her 5 children. She was on Effexor.

Prescribed psychiatric drugs have side effects,rare,but real.Effexor, for example, causes "homocidal ideation" in less than one in 1000 users, but there have been 19.2 million prescriptions since 2005, when maker Wyeth added this to the list of side effects.

There a more cases like these, so we should not ignore the issue.


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Reply 18 - Posted by: chumley, 1/20/2013 4:28:58 PM     (No. 9128585)

So let me guess, #12 has no smoke detectors or fire extinguishers in his house because it isnt on fire. He drives without insurance because he isnt in a wreck. There is no food in his house because he isnt hungry. He has no health insurance because he isnt sick.
Simpleton.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: thelmalou, 1/20/2013 5:12:34 PM     (No. 9128654)

Well, duh. I said this to someone just the other day. They´ll start with this list and go from there: http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/mental-health-medications/alphabetical-list-of-medications.shtml

#17 - Correlation does not equal causation. I.e., Possibly/likely they were on the meds because of the disorder that led to the shootings, not that the meds led to the shootings.


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Reply 20 - Posted by: thelmalou, 1/20/2013 5:13:14 PM     (No. 9128656)

Sorry - I meant #18 instead of #17. Not saying it couldn´t happen, btw...just saying that´s not necessarily the cause.


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Reply 21 - Posted by: lakerman1, 1/20/2013 5:30:41 PM     (No. 9128669)

I´m late to the show about causation versus correlation.
But allow me to use an example from my classroom days.
The incidence of rape goes up directly proportional to the consumption of ice cream. That is an example of correlation.
But eating ice cream does not cause rape. It is that during warm weather, women are dressed in more convenient way for the rapists, and the women are more likely to be outside of the safety of their residences.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: FormerDem, 1/20/2013 9:57:13 PM     (No. 9128964)

This is the kind of thing that says to me the federal government is over-resourced. Stop feeding it.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Trigger2, 1/21/2013 4:27:43 AM     (No. 9129296)

I´ve said it before on this forum:

Black markets are going to flourish everywhere. So will under the table jobs.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Rubinski, 1/21/2013 9:05:41 AM     (No. 9129607)

As a nurse practitioner, I can already look up and see if a patient has gotten prescriptions filled anywhere for schedule drugs. Schedule drugs are drugs which are more tightly controlled. Generally, these are amphetamine-type drugs like ritalin and narcotics like oxycontin and percocet.

Trazadone isn´t a schedule drug, to the poster who thought that he or she would end up on some list because of a prescription.

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