President Obama unveiled his proposals to combat gun violence today, and they turned out to be anti-climactic. There were no surprises, unless you expected him to mention the culture of violence fostered by Democratic-party donors in Hollywood and the video-game industry. He didn’t. The administration’s gun proposals turned out to be retreads. Obama could have tried something new, perhaps something more sweeping: a ban on all semiautomatic rifles, perhaps, or even a ban that includes some handguns. Instead, the White House paper that explains the president’s proposals says the administration wants to ban “military-style
I was just reading the headlines on a local paper and the breaking news was some woman had been shot in the leg walking down the street.I´m sure she´s laying in the hospital bed wondering why Obama´s exe. orders didn´t help her.
The pure insanity of punishing law abiding citizens while the criminal element goes untouched is beyond my level of comprehension,just like Obama defenders saying his kids are more important than other people´s kids.
At least Obama didn´t propose putting more signs up around schools..Or did he?
It seems the purpose of all this is simply to cement the messages "Democrats Care" and "Republicans Don´t Care" into the already clouded minds of the electorate. To fully implement socialism with a disarmed citizenry, the pro-Obama majority must be made still larger and unable to "revert" in sympathy back to constitutionalism. Painting Democrats - regardless of their actions or the failed results of their actions - as moral superiors is definitely the way to go, especially as no resistance to this arrogant stance is ever, ever offered by the GOP. Game and match: Obama.
Have you seen pictures of the kids who attended the signing with their parents? I have a question about the mother on the right in the pictures (behind the white boy): Is it the same woman who´s in this H&R Block ad about Obamacare? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w-zoseqxUw
I still think that he´s using the Newtown tragedy to get control of the nation´s debt ceiling. We´ll be SO relieved to get off easy when we were ready to tear the Republic apart by resisting siezure with force, we won´t notice when Obama rescues his "signaure legislation" (Obamacare) by swiping control of the purse strings from a weak and ineffectual congress.
John, you are missing the point. Not every proposal will impact all types of murders equally, because not every type of murderer is the same.
You have determined criminals...they will steal, come up with other options, etc. Yes, they may kill while conducting crimes, but these aren´t your mass murderers of innocents.
You have family/acquaintance violence of passion. On rare occasions these take out several family members/acquaintances at once, but these are generally instant crimes of passion. Most of the knife or bare hand murders are here.
And then you have the Tucson, Aurora and Newtown type mass murderers - delusional and/or psychotic individuals. If you can make ir more difficult for this group to get a gun or magazine, then they don´t have the mental resources to dream up alternatives which are not part of their delusion. They are highly unlikely to try to steal one already in existence, except one already in their home, such as in Newtown. Doctors do need to ask such individuals and their families about weapons; Nancy Lanza should not have had so many weapons, so much ammunition, in her home with Adam living there.
The seminar poster,The Lagomorph, misses the point. Obama´s proposals will do nothing to prevent the types of mass shootings which this E.O. is touted as targeting. If Obama and the left were really serious about killings and violence, they would focus on cracking down on gangs and implementing common sense crime control measures. He´s not, hence these stupid E.O.s. As usual, the left and the Lagomorph eat this up with a spoon. He ´´cares.´´
But does nothing except posture.
And no, Dr.s have no right digging into your personal life on the orders of the government.
"Doctors do need to ask such individuals and their families about weapons; "
0bama´s goal is to deputize doctors in order for them to ask all their patients about guns. My husband and I refuse to answer those questions on medical forms, and we will never have that discussion with any physician. :-)
#10 It´s not uncommon for much of America to have over a dozen guns, and measure their ammo by the *thousands* of rounds. I never would have believed that growing up in NY, but trust me, it´s true in middle America, and my neck of the woods. Oh yeah, it´s much safer where I live now. Imagine that.
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Silly Old Me, 1/17/2013 10:44:05 AM (No. 9121965)
Gun ownership contageous? Absolutely! Gun shop shelfs are bare, just like the flu remedies at your neighborhood druggist. AR15-type rifles seem to be especially contageous, along with most type hand gun ammo. Seems everyone is catching it!
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Ken M., 1/17/2013 11:41:22 AM (No. 9122103)
More generally than just this new "assault weapons" policy, it´s yet another example of our Dear Ruler´s duplicitous talk. Whenever he makes some grandiose speech, the low information folks see and hear what they want to, while the rest of us see it for what it really is ... nothing.
Actually, he´s not directing doctors to ask about guns--he´s just saying that they are not prohibited from doing so (which is open to dispute, and disputes are already in the making). I think that "appoint an ATF director" says a lot about what´s going on here--it´s flagrant "padding", just something to give him another another EO to list so he will look like he´s "doing something". I´m kind of surprised, he´s kind of voting "present" on this one and tossing it into Cogress´ lap IMO.
They are setting precedence. By allowing these EO´s about guns to stand because we don´t think they are that bad, he sets precedence for using the EO for gun control in the future with more harsh legislation.
#10, the Newtown and Aurora murderers are both highly intelligent men. They would certainly have devised some other way to cause the mayhem they craved.
You seem to be forgetting, too, that Holmes had rigged/booby-trapped his apartment to explode, in order to distract the first responders. He would have succeeded in that, too, had his trigger device fired off correctly. It took authorities days to clear out his explosives.
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