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American Spectator, by Arthur S. Trebach

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Posted By:StormCnter, 1/15/2013 6:19:08 AM

The comments so far on my most recent piece (“Despair Inside the Beltway”), which ran here yesterday, have usually fit a familiar pattern: tear down the writer who voted for Mr. Obama even though he has now seen the error of his ways and is working for change. (Snip)I should have mentioned how I voted in the last election. For the first time in a long life, I voted almost exclusively for Republicans, including Mitt Romney for President. He was clearly the best qualified and most honorable candidate for the top position.

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Yesterday´s Must Read "Despair Inside the Beltway" got more than 90 comments on the thread, and apparently generated a lot of criticism for Trebach at his own site. This is his rejoinder.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Sfacheem, 1/15/2013 6:26:13 AM     (No. 9117092)

Mr. Trebach, while I appreciate your sudden enlightenment and your honesty, I cannot for the life of me figure out why you are now concerned with the opinions of the conservative masses when you obviously were NOT in 2008. May I suggest that you return to your pre-2012 ways and not give a damn what other people think and say? That you´ve grown up and see the light is enough for me.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: tocsin, 1/15/2013 6:41:52 AM     (No. 9117101)

Mr Trebach, if your wittle feewings are easily hurt, you may (still) be a liberal.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: doodah, 1/15/2013 6:58:14 AM     (No. 9117123)

I was so glad to see Mr. Trebach´s article yesterday because it meant liberal folks were "seeing the light" of their false prophet. The critics seemed like the ones who were so hard on Romney and that was, indeed, their right. As we see more and more of these enlightened ones, are we going to dismiss them outright because they have not always been in the trenches with us? Fellow Americans, we can´t afford to!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: philsner, 1/15/2013 7:09:09 AM     (No. 9117130)

It is a typically liberal trait to tell others what to say and how to act.


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Reply 5 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 1/15/2013 7:17:01 AM     (No. 9117134)

Dear Mr. Trebach,

Welcome to the New Revolution. I hope you are rested and ready for the fight. It will be long and hard. I hope you learn not to be so thin-skinned as you have shown in this article.

Conservatives get beaten about the head and shoulders every day for their beliefs. We are told we are stupid, bigotted and mean-spirited. You will be told that and more, too.

As I said, welcome to the revolution we are glad to have another voice who can write!

Periwinkel in Flyover Country


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Reply 6 - Posted by: noproblems, 1/15/2013 7:29:34 AM     (No. 9117149)

Arthur, you seemed to get dissappointed often by politicians. maybe you need more understanding of the failure that both political parties almost always have in producing candidates of honor and integrity.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Grambo, 1/15/2013 7:37:03 AM     (No. 9117159)

The most vile result of the Democrat’s despicable habit and tactic of ad hominem attacks on, not only candidates, but the families of candidates, is that most good men and women will eschew public office for the sake of their families, knowing how they would be savaged by hordes of dishonorable Democrat operatives and filthy media. The Left has way of debasing any culture or society it oozes into.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: artman1746, 1/15/2013 7:45:25 AM     (No. 9117179)

I criticized the author on his last piece but I welcome him to the fight. I keep in mind, however, as I would anyone, that he is a person that has very poor judgement. I cannot imagine anyone engaged in political thought could come to the conclusion that Obama had the qualities and experience for the presidency. Therefore, he is welcomed to the fight, but cannot be trusted due to his apparent inability to apply the most basic logical thought.

Liberalism is a disease. Few can ever shake off the infection.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: BirdsNest, 1/15/2013 7:49:32 AM     (No. 9117182)

#8 and #9 have highlighted a few good points.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: bpl40, 1/15/2013 7:51:54 AM     (No. 9117186)

The main problem with Prof. Trebach´s earlier article is that every single reason he gives in it was known to the 46% who voted against this abomination in 2008. A highly educated, intelligent and politically conscious individual should have known better back then. Otherwise there something seriously wrong. But as a poster here says "Come on in Prof the water is fine"

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Judy W., 1/15/2013 7:59:35 AM     (No. 9117195)

Yesterday Rush Limbaugh talked about how Republicans and conservatives don´t defend their own. They let people like Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann swing in the wind. Therefore we lose one good leader after another. The left knows who is threatening to them and that´s who they go after.

The reactions to this man are in a similar vein. Yes, he was a lib in denial, but now that he sees his errors he needs to be welcomed and supported. God knows he´s probably getting huge grief from his colleagues and acquaintances. Do you know who Whittaker Chambers was? He was a Communist spy in the 1930s who did a lot of damage, but when he repented he became a huge asset to the right as he informed the public of what the Communist Party was up to, and dissected the wrongness of that whole ideology. He became a friend of William F. Buckley. Suppose the conservatives at that time had rejected him? What a loss that would have been.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Pros7767, 1/15/2013 7:59:36 AM     (No. 9117196)

Mr. Trebach,

The civil rights movement was taken over by extremists after Martin Luther King was killed. He is turning over in his grave as he watches what his movement has become and the devistation it has caused to the black family.

You can continue to hope for True equality and compassion for all people, but in my experience that ship has long sailed. While white people have raised their children that everyone is equal, black children have been raised that everything is "whitey´s" fault. It will take generations to change that view. I worked in the inner city for many years and speak from first hand experience. Unfortunately, your naïveté still exists if you believe otherwise.

As for remembering the good that Obama has done, he hasn´t done anything good. He is destroying our country.

If you are truly joining the fight, you need to realize that. Also, you need to focus on our corrupt media. Good luck.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: OperaBuff, 1/15/2013 7:59:58 AM     (No. 9117197)

Lucifer was once the angel of light, brother Trebach. He can look and sound real purdy when he wants to. Stop listening to his words and start listening to his actions.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 1/15/2013 8:01:58 AM     (No. 9117206)

There have been other conversions we have seen at this site. Ramona (The Pest) comes to mind. Also, think of the writings we enjoyed from Robin of Berkeley. We should welcome the change, not admonish it.

Would you also condemn the former atheist who now sees the light?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: O.S. Banker, 1/15/2013 8:02:47 AM     (No. 9117211)

Dear Dr. Trebach:

I was one of those commenters yesterday that you may not have cared for, but a single sentence in this column causes me some regret for my comments, the fact that you voted for Mr. Romney. I confess that I am not familiar with your work, but I hope that in addition to your vote you utilized your words to support Mr. Romney.

Regarding your dissappointment with the direction of the Civil Rights Movement, this no great surprise, as its course was predicted by Booker T. Washington at Tuskeegee. The only thing that I can add to his admonition is that the degeneration ws accelerated via Lyndon B. Johnson´s Great Society Initiative.

Finally, I fervently pray that you realize that you will be hounded and despised by those you once considered friends. They will view your words as an assault upon their beliefs. Past activities that may have been called youthful indescretions, will be labelled as heinous behavior because you are now viewed as a conservative. There is a reason so many of us eschew public office.

I hope you are up for the fight.

Kindest regards.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Judy W., 1/15/2013 8:02:56 AM     (No. 9117212)

Furthermore, I have noticed that those converts who find a welcoming reception become more conservative over time. Once they lose their knee-jerk horror about various conservative positions they can look anew at what they believe. As they move along in their thinking they see more clearly what harm their previous allegiance to the left has done. Read David Horowitz if you want to see repentance, but I don´t think he was as deeply repentant at first as he is now.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: jlw509, 1/15/2013 8:09:25 AM     (No. 9117221)

Dear Fellow L-dotters,

I have a right to say this, because you-all know I have been a loyal L-dotter myself, from the very first dot.

Stop beating up on ex-liberal n00bies!

Christian conservatives: think of the Good Shepherd. He didn´t take sly kicks at His lost lamb and call it a stinky, mentally pathetic furball. He put the lamb on His shoulders and said, Today there is rejoicing in heaven.

Non-Christian conservatives: just think. If you knew you would be demeaned for changing your opinion in the face of overwhelming evidence, wouldn´t it give you yet another reason to ignore overwhelming evidence?

Mr. Trebach: You have my respect and my right hand in fellowship. God bless you. Good to have you aboard.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: seamusm, 1/15/2013 8:10:27 AM     (No. 9117224)

Arthur, Welcome to the battle. But if you are hoping for forgiveness for having saddled us with Bozo, sorry.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: jgalt, 1/15/2013 8:11:07 AM     (No. 9117226)

The problem, Mr. Trebach is that you seem to have concluded you madea mistake but you did not take full responsibility for the calamiy that has befallen our Nation. It´s not enough to just say "Opps. I made a mistake." You have to own the fact that you are complicit in the desruction of this Nation. And , as other commenters have said hee, you are not part of the "uninformed voter" class. You had all the information available and access to all resources needed to know that obama had (and still has) NO qualifications whatsoever to assume the office he is usurping. Not to mention the very seious issue of his unproven eligibility, which I am sure you originally dismissed out of hand wihtou a second thought (and probabaly still do).

Your awakening is too little too late I am afraid. The die is cast and the damage that obama has inflicted on our once Great Nation may NEVER be undone and if it is it will take CENTURIES to recover.
And remember: obama is nowhere near being done. We shoudl all brace ourselves for a shocking dose of reality which is sure to be cataclismic.
So, Prof. Trebach... you do have ample opportunity to redeem yourself by fighting on our side... but you better get to work soon and keep at it for a very long time.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Bevan, 1/15/2013 8:14:50 AM     (No. 9117231)

I am a tail-ender baby boomer (1956). I remember my generation protesting the govt over Viet Nam (it was 2 words then)and civil rights. They called Johnson and Nixon dictators and murderers. Here we are 40 some odd years later with the 60´s protesters in charge. The irony is that they are more totalitarian than the govt they protested against.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: pgvoisin, 1/15/2013 8:14:58 AM     (No. 9117232)

Artie:

Conservatism is for grown-ups.
Progressivism is for 2 year olds.

Spending more money that you have is irresponsible.
Calling people names is juvenile.
Having two sets of laws (one for Main Street and one for Washington) is hypocritical.

In 1775, we were in a similar situation.
Welcome to the revolutions, Artie!


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Reply 22 - Posted by: Time4AR2, 1/15/2013 8:18:40 AM     (No. 9117236)

Some mistakes are fatal errors, Mr. Trebach.

Ditto, #20, it is too late to ´see the light´.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Passion, 1/15/2013 8:31:40 AM     (No. 9117262)

I guess, Arthur, it comes down to this: you have all those degrees, and you are a Professor Emeritus, and yet, you made a decision dumber than my youngest child made in 2008. So welcome to the light, we´re glad you´re here, but I guess you could say we´re not really sure why someone who could remain as foolish as you did for so long still thinks what you have to say is worth reading. We don´t think it is.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: truthfetish, 1/15/2013 8:34:56 AM     (No. 9117269)

Understandable passion here.

I´m with #12 and #15. Welcome the Prodigal son.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Rather Read, 1/15/2013 8:36:27 AM     (No. 9117274)

Dr. Trebach, I welcome you to the ranks of thoughtful conservatives and say better late than never. There are always going to be the holier than thou who will dump on you, but I am not one of them.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: wherewithal, 1/15/2013 8:48:33 AM     (No. 9117302)

Dr. Trebach, you make the same mistake as many American citizens, you don´t bother to think until it´s too late. Obama told us what he would do early in his first presidential campaign and you, like so many others, didn´t listen - didn´t think he could get away with it or were just so stupid that they voted for him because "it was time to have a black president." The altument in stupidity!

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Reply 27 - Posted by: cdunnrun, 1/15/2013 8:48:55 AM     (No. 9117303)

Mr. Trebach. I´m not going to assume you read my comment but just in case...

Look. Not every poster represents every single conservative point of view. My point of view about your revelation of Obama is...welcome to the family!

Hey. I voted for Dukakis (please don´t ban me Lucianne!) but saw the light on the road to my political Damascus. Be of good cheer and although the two are completely different yet same in principle, Jesus knocks at the door of every man´s heart and welcomes him into his Kingdom when he opens it. Same with you! I, and multitudes of others do the same on your behalf. You are brave and courageous for "coming out" but despite the scorn coming from both sides of the aisle...better late than never! High-five bro.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: govlawyer, 1/15/2013 8:49:24 AM     (No. 9117305)

Sorry Arthur, but you and your useful idiots helped put this pretender on the throne and now you want us to wrap our arms around you in forgiveness because you´ve apologized. As they say on the street, "It don´t work that way!"

You helped create this mess; if you´re in for the fight, welcome. If you´re just experiencing pangs of guilt, get over them.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: avikingman, 1/15/2013 8:50:51 AM     (No. 9117307)

Welcome Mr. Trebach.
I suggest you take a refresher course and read ´The Road to Serfdom´.
You´ll see yourself like never before.
Good luck.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: Judy W., 1/15/2013 8:52:00 AM     (No. 9117309)

I am ashamed of my fellow L-Dotters who prefer moral preening to advancing our cause. We can never win with your attitude since you will reject every convert to our side. #18 is right to bring up Jesus the Good Shepherd. Also think of the prodigal son.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: quegley, 1/15/2013 8:54:37 AM     (No. 9117317)

At the age of 27 I was a convert to conservatism in LaLaLand of Austin, TX. The only county in Texas to go for Mondale. I´ll take any newly minted conservative at any time for any reason. Especially ones in academia. At some point I suspect the dear doctor will become more conservative in which I will happily welcome.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 1/15/2013 8:59:18 AM     (No. 9117325)

my conversion came with James Earl Carter´s second campaign. Yes - mea culpa - I voted for him. Once. I wasn´t stupid, but I was ignorant. The comparison does end there. Unlike Jimmy Carter, this president WAS reelected. Frankly, I share much of Trebach´s despair...

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Reply 33 - Posted by: sorosisbehindit, 1/15/2013 9:04:27 AM     (No. 9117336)

Our only hope for the future is for people to see and admit their mistakes and turn from the direction they were going toward the opposite direction.
We all need to repent when we realize we were wrong, and we all need to encourage those who do so.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: OhMy, 1/15/2013 9:06:46 AM     (No. 9117342)

Our failure to stand by our own who are attacked ( Sarah Palin ) and our failure to accept converts from the other side are the source of many conservative losses. I know many good hearted people who are taken in by Obama´s demagoguery. I have tried to bring them around with little success. We should be wary of phony converts to be sure but we should not reject the possibility altogether. Let what is past be past. This is what the left refuses to do in digging for dirt on conservative leaders. They can disqualify anybody by nitpicking some past event in their lives while excusing anything in their own leaders. Remember Reagan was a democrat - before he became the greatest Republican president of our time.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Me?Opinionated?Nah!, 1/15/2013 9:07:52 AM     (No. 9117343)

I saw no point yesterday in beating up on Arthur S. Trebach, nor do I today. What’s done is done. Spilt Milk et al.

My long-held beef is with what has become of most of our nation’s corrupt, role-model-Joseph Goebbels-inspired media. To quote myself:

“Nowadays, to give credence to what you see and hear by way of America’s so-called mainstream media is to naively do so at your peril. Don’t!”


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Reply 36 - Posted by: jgalt, 1/15/2013 9:08:44 AM     (No. 9117346)

There is nothing to be ashamed of Judy. WE are all free individuals with our own opinions. You should only be ashamed of lapses and failures that YOU are responsible for.

I am simply FURIOUS at the people responsible for this disaster in our White House.
We can´t blame obama: he is a corrupt, thoroughly unqualified, utter FRAUD intent on destroying everythign that is great and glorious about this Nation. So everything that he is doing is everything one would expect an ENEMY of America to do to bring about our destruction. He is acting according to his nature.
The ones who deserve the blame are those who gave obama the power to do inflict his destruction upon all of us. And that includes the good Professor and pretty much the ENTIRE Republican establishment... particualrly the Congressmen and Senators who CONTINUE to fail their Oath to protect and defend our Constitution.

Step 1: Force obama to conclusively prove he is eligible to occupy the White House.

Step 2: If he is not eligible, try him as a FRAUD and TRAITOR and administer the proper sentence.

Step 3: Nullify EVERY "Law" that he ever signed while usurping the office of POTUS.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: TheOwl, 1/15/2013 9:11:35 AM     (No. 9117352)

Thanks # 18 Welcome in Mr. Trebach. Please understand that people in this country who knew what Obama was from the get-go are pretty sick, angry, enraged - you name it - about what has happened to our country. We fought and fought and fought to get the man out of office and either the delusions of the left or the ignorance of the no-info-voter or possibly the out and out cheating of the Democrats got him back in office. We´re pretty steamed and sometimes pretty discouraged after this last election. Please continue to speak out loud and clear about what you have come to see sir. I´ll be happy to stand by you in trying to save a nation going down the tubes.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: iamtinman, 1/15/2013 9:24:17 AM     (No. 9117374)

Toughen up Mr Trebach, there are many sharks in the political pool and sharks don´t care who they bite as long as they draw blood.

It does surprise me though that folks as erudite as you seem to be, could be so easily fooled by a mystery man who had no real political track record, very shady supporters (Tony Rezkpo, Bill Ayers, Ted Kennedy etc) and a very sketchy academic history, could possibly be qualified to be president of the United States!

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Reply 39 - Posted by: OhMy, 1/15/2013 9:32:22 AM     (No. 9117397)

Sometimes the best conservatives are the converts to the cause. Where would be be today without Brietbart.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: joew9, 1/15/2013 9:37:22 AM     (No. 9117410)

I think for people like me and most of those on this website we have seen nothing from Obama that was any different from what we expected before he took office in 2009. That´s probably because we keep up with information by doing things like visiting Lucianne.com often and not relying entirely on the MSM and NPR for our information. Mr. Trebach was apparently surprised at what Obama has done his four years as President. We were not. It was exactly what we expected.

Congratulations to Mr. Trebach that he finally caught on. But it took a four year presidency for him to do learn from his mistake. And that mistake has done a lot of damage that is probably not repairable. I hope Mr. Trebach will in the future find a way to properly inform himself to understand what a leader will do before he gives him the job and has to learn from his mistake once again.

Meanwhile we have to live with the mess that has been caused by the underinformed Trebach and others like him.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Passion, 1/15/2013 9:39:18 AM     (No. 9117414)

I think the L dotters who are criticizing other L dotters for criticizing Arthur are missing the point. We all are glad he´s seen the light. We all welcome him. However, here he is, a few weesk in the cause, and he´s throwing around his degrees and his stature and claiming now we should listen to him and his munificense. It´s that academic arrogance that he still has that infuriates....

Especially since he is WAY BEHIND us, not ahead of us. And FTR, I don´t think Breitbart was out two weeks after conversion saying "listen to me!"


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Reply 42 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 1/15/2013 9:46:24 AM     (No. 9117430)

It is encouraging to me to see that many posters are welcoming this new convert. We have to stop berating people coming to our side, not to mention those who have been on our side all along but who sometimes don´t think the same way that we do. We have to stop the war against each otherf.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/15/2013 9:54:59 AM     (No. 9117449)

And we wonder why so many consider us intolerant? Just read this thread. Why would anyone tell us we have convinced him or her if we then begin to beat them around the head and shoulders for being so late to our side?

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Reply 44 - Posted by: trapper, 1/15/2013 9:55:39 AM     (No. 9117451)

The good professor still does not get it.

From the article yesterday, after giving a rundown of Obama´s empty resume: "he [Obama] was elected president in 2008 and, as I said, I voted for him. Like many millions of citizens, I managed to overcome my disgust at his association with his bigoted, racist, anti-Semitic pastor, Jeremiah Wright."

Why wouold an otherwise intelligent man make an effort to "overcome" your "disgust"? Of course, we all know the answer: to elect the "first black president." You voted color, and color alone. Your vote was character blind. And what level of vileness evidenced by Obama´s associations could have caused you to abandon this wilfull blindness?

Actions have consequences. In your case, the consequences of your folly is being visited upon 300 million Americans. You don´t get to just do a John Belushi shrug, mutter "sorry," and go on your merry way, everything forgiven. You, personally, have helped contribute to the destruction of America by helping to elect the instrument of that destruction, and the rest of us are still angry about it. No, not angry, spitting furious.

YOU, Professor, are expected to spend the rest of your life making up for it. This has been a good start. Keep it up. You have about 40 years left on your sentence.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: trapper, 1/15/2013 10:07:28 AM     (No. 9117474)

Oh, and Professor, lest you get all offended by that "40 year sentence" I mentioned, you would do well to remember that your actions have seen to it that all the rest of us serve it right along with you. So don´t expect a lot of "thank yous."

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Reply 46 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 1/15/2013 10:09:23 AM     (No. 9117480)

Of the many excellent posts re this professor’s tripe, reply 21 by Pros7767 on yesterday’s thread is the only one that goes to one of my core problems…this guy has shaped if not poisoned young minds for at least 2 generations at a prestigious university. That is my despair, along with the fact that once again, the thinkers in our party are elevating such a person by giving him space in a major conservative publication, and then two days running as a must read on this site. I’m Black, a life-long Republican, and someone who has worked in the party from the precinct to the White House, so I’ve seen so-called converts moved to the head of the line and celebrated as opposed to those who have labored in the vineyard. I can think of dozens of LDotters who have more to say and can say it better than this guy! Give me more doses of Alicia Colon, or Hazymac, or Veritas, or many many other thoughtful posters I challenge and who challenge me every day. Repent, professor, but do so in your prayer closet at home, ‘round-about-midnight, and spare me!

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Reply 47 - Posted by: jeffkinnh, 1/15/2013 10:14:10 AM     (No. 9117489)

I did not comment on yesterday´s article but will today. You said "If millions of good Americans agree with these awful forecasts then perhaps — just perhaps — there will be a groundswell of popular demand that drastic measures must be taken very soon to change the disastrous direction of the precious American nation." Mr. Trebach, we just had the opportunity to do that and enough Americans are still so misguided that BO got reelected. Most of your litany against BO was known BEFORE his first election.

So Mr. Trebach, welcome to enlightenment (although your previous progressive colleagues will think you have become ignorant). I have been worried about our Country from well before BO was elected in 2008. But why did you have to be hit by BO´s bus before you saw the light? Having been in the progressive miasma do you have any ideas HOW to spread that enlightenment to progressives still lost in the wilderness and seemingly immune to rational thought? For THAT is the problem we face and there will be NO "groundswell of popular demand" until it is resolved.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: Shannon, 1/15/2013 10:14:59 AM     (No. 9117492)

Thank you, poster #16!

Very classy comment!

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Reply 49 - Posted by: Avogadra, 1/15/2013 10:16:07 AM     (No. 9117496)

Two names may remind LDotters about why we are careful of longtime liberals who profess to become conservatives. Andrew Sullivan and Charles Johnson (of Little Green Footballs). We welcomed both men to our side, and both of them eventually reverted to form. Some conversions are real, but some are not.

That´s not to say that we should shun new converts until they have proven themselves. But a lifetime of thought patterns is hard to break. And treating Dr. Trebach with a degree of caution is probably warranted.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: yuban, 1/15/2013 10:20:03 AM     (No. 9117503)

I will leave it to God to forgive this man. As for me, no way. He spent his entire life ruining this Country and I will not forgive him for that.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: lilo, 1/15/2013 10:28:40 AM     (No. 9117522)

My reply was posted early in the AM, and not partictularly snarky, but not exactly welcoming either. I have a life long suspicion of liberals or progressives or whatever it is you (used) to call yourself. I am an early baby boomer, and was appalled at the behaviour of my age cohorts in the sixties, incredulous that anyone could be so DUMB, and haven´t changed my mind in the least. One of my closest friends was and is an old hippie, and quite frankly she is the stupidest smart person I know. Knee jerk reaction to anything or anyone conservative or Christian. Having been mocked and criticized most of my adult life for being both Christian, and conservative, you´ll understand I don´t exactly believe you at first read. And from the over-the-top media coverage of conservatism and Christianity I developed a healthy skepticism of all pronouncements and writings of all things liberal.

I live in a southern state, and my nephew is quite upset about how southerners are protrayed as HoneyBooBoos, and hoarders, and preppers, not to mention red-necked yahoos who marry their sisters. I told him not to let it bother him, it keeps the liberal riff-raff out.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: Farmwife1, 1/15/2013 10:38:59 AM     (No. 9117544)

"find ways of calmly and politely working together"

That´s what has brought us to this point. Now we are angry and people are still telling us to be the "nice guys?" Mitt Romney was a "nice guy." In case you are wondering, nice guys finish last.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: pickle1, 1/15/2013 10:47:00 AM     (No. 9117560)

When he poke equality I laughed and stopped reading.

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Reply 54 - Posted by: dudette4freedom, 1/15/2013 10:50:42 AM     (No. 9117570)

I am happy to see a liberal on the mend. But we need to take a page out of the left´s book and use it against them: bash our way to doominance in the smallest and biggest of things. For example---do any of you challenege CNN´s dominance at offices and airports everywhere? Do it. Insist on FOX or CSPAN so we get both sides of an argument. Woddforest National Bank is an example of a bank who chooses thru corporate policy to have CNN indoctinate its poor clients who are only there to do banking. Well, write to the CEOs and demand fairness, that watchword of the left. Do it everywhere, get in their face and never stop and never tire---that is how the left has won...it has never stopped and it has fought over the smallest things to declare victory and move on to bigger things. Start, make a difference, write call and bombard and totally harass wherever and whenever you can leftist outlets or businesses who allow themselves to be used by the left. I say let´s start with knocking CNN down, then on to other things.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: DoktorFranken, 1/15/2013 10:51:52 AM     (No. 9117573)

I didn´t read nor comment on yesterday´s article. If this person is truly repentant and will use their influence to attempt to educate the Ignorant Masses then, by all means, go for it. However, I don´t feel that anyone who claims to have an iota of real intelligence (as opposed to the State Controlled Media infused mantras) could have actually thought that Obama was qualified in any way, shape, or form to be our country´s President in 2008 - ESPECIALLY after knowing what he was, is, and what he was planning to do with the country. It doesn´t take a degreed person to see that Obama is the most Anti-American person to run for the office of president - EVER.

Long story short, I agree with poster #49.

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Reply 56 - Posted by: Illinois Resident, 1/15/2013 11:04:42 AM     (No. 9117604)

Dear Mr. Trebach, you seem to think you deserve a "pat on the back" for your new-found revelation and understanding, which shows you have a lot of "growing-up" to do. It seems you want accolades from the conservative "group" which also shows you do not really comprehend us at all. I hope when you come to understand how individual responsibility which influences your "actions" and not just your "words" is an indicator of your maturity then you can write your book. Will it be about you or 0bama?

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Reply 57 - Posted by: Poliskeptic, 1/15/2013 11:06:08 AM     (No. 9117610)

Once again I wonder how on earth Romney lost this election.....everywhere I turn people say they voted for Obama in 2008 but saw the error of their ways. He had the enthusiastic crowds. Voter fraud? Evangelicals staying home? Whatever. It´s a tragedy of mammoth proportions.

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Reply 58 - Posted by: Aria, 1/15/2013 11:08:09 AM     (No. 9117617)

David Horowitz is a passionate reformed liberal and I welcome any such person to my side of the line - we need all the sincere help we can get, especially those with a forum.

To those who still want to gripe about the author´s previous voting record - recognize what it took for him to admit he was wrong and change his mind. Not an easy process I think.

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Reply 59 - Posted by: kono, 1/15/2013 11:14:50 AM     (No. 9117634)

Amen to #44.

There ought to be a probationary period for any convert to the cause. Until there´s some evidence of persistence in his conversion, Trebach needs to be watched for signs that he might be a Tessio, instead.

Far too many ´conversions´ prove to be safaris, instead -- temporary adventures into alien territory, not relocations of heart.

And an intellectual with any sense of integrity would admit that a conversion on this scale reveals fundamental lapses in common sense and reasoning that should make one pause rather than present oneself for potential leadership. Trebach´s welcome to take a position in the back of the class with us ten, twenty, and thirty-year converts. Someone whose world view was distorted by decades of toxic reasoning should be ready for it to take at least a few years to recover sufficiently to be a leader again.

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Reply 60 - Posted by: little guy, 1/15/2013 11:16:58 AM     (No. 9117639)

My Dear Professor Trebach:

I respond publicly because you have replied to our comments publicly. In my opinion, you have mixed two things together. You think we are annoyed with you as you may be now, when (speaking just for myself) I am annoyed with what YOU WERE -- not what you are. A Man, much greater than I, once said " You are forgiven, go and sin no more". Sadly, I don´t have that huge power & depth of immediate forgiveness. You and your kind started the fire you now would like to help put out. We welcome your aid, but remember that we only need it because of the actions of you & your former friends in the first place! Can you be forgiven? Of course! And you can be welcomed too! Just start now and work to compensate for your past. Become like St. Paul. After his Damascus experience he turned on a dime. You seem young enough in your photo to help make a change. Do it. Your ENTIRE life will be judged, and not by me. I will welcome anyone who comes into the Alamo and wants to fight next to me. But don´t expect all love & kisses until you prove yourself.
Cordially,

little guy

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Reply 61 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 1/15/2013 11:22:52 AM     (No. 9117649)

One-by-one, the liberals wake up to reality. We have to wonder how it must have felt to the intelligent people who had supported Herr Hitler though his rise to wake up one morning to watch Jews being whipped in the street and shoved onto cattle cars and then to see their cities bombed to oblivion. That day did they suddenly have an epiphany? One has to wonder about all the other rising atrocities against German society Hitler and his boys ran before that day. Well, it’s exactly the same now. Yes, I am glad you finally woke up to reality. But, what was wrong that you remained so gullible in 2008 or even earlier to this charlatan’s lies and blatant admissions of hatred for our country and outright racist views against white people! Yeah, now that we are obviously spinning into disaster, you come out and state the obvious. Well, pal, in my book, you are way, way too late. I’m delighted your in the same sinking boat as the rest of us- but the tragedy for my country I love so much is dreadful- thanks to people just like you!

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Reply 62 - Posted by: beat the press, 1/15/2013 11:32:27 AM     (No. 9117672)

My neighbors went on vacation and left their two year old with the husband´s mother. The baby drowned in his grandmother´s pool.

Forgive? With great difficulty and God´s help.

Forget? Never

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Reply 63 - Posted by: smcchk, 1/15/2013 11:58:31 AM     (No. 9117753)

The last paragraph is the truest and saddest, that the destruction of Mitt Romney worked. Obama´s entire campaign was one of creating fear and negativity and that it worked and overcame the positive message and obvious goodness of Gov. Romney makes me despair.

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Reply 64 - Posted by: TheFrisian, 1/15/2013 12:00:02 PM     (No. 9117760)

Don’t be so hard on Mr. Trebach, the converted make for wonderful spokesmen. Besides, he is in good company.
Martin Niemöller, a Lutheran pastor in Germany, was interned in Sachsenhausen and Dachau concentration camps from 1938 to 1945. After his former cell-mate Leo Stein was released from Sachsenhausen to go to America, he wrote an article about Niemöller for The National Jewish Monthly in 1941.[2] Stein reports that having asked Niemöller why he ever supported the Nazi Party, Niemöller replied:
I find myself wondering about that too. I wonder about it as much as I regret it. Still, it is true that Hitler betrayed me. I had an audience with him, as a representative of the Protestant Church, shortly before he became Chancellor in 1932. Hitler promised me on his word of honor to protect the Church, and not to issue any anti-Church laws. He also agreed not to allow pogroms against the Jews, assuring me as follows: "There will be restrictions against the Jews, but there will be no ghettos, no pogroms, in Germany."
I really believed, given the widespread anti-Semitism in Germany at that time, that Jews should avoid aspiring to Government positions or seats in the Reichstag. There were many Jews, especially among the Zionists, who took a similar stand. Hitler´s assurance satisfied me at the time. On the other hand, I hated the growing atheistic movement, which was fostered and promoted by the Social Democrats and the Communists. Their hostility toward the Church made me pin my hopes on Hitler for a while.
I am paying for that mistake now; and not me alone, but thousands of other persons like me. (Wikipedia)


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Reply 65 - Posted by: knarfski, 1/15/2013 12:19:56 PM     (No. 9117796)

My question: Has the professor moved from despair to integrity? (Probably.)

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Reply 66 - Posted by: Mother of AL, 1/15/2013 1:11:38 PM     (No. 9117922)

There is, INMHO,one other lesson to take from his reply. Can anyone, ANYONE, find someone who says, I didn´t vote for 0 the first time, but I´m voting for him the second???? But he won. This election was stolen. As Neil Boortz said on Hannity, the Dems have found a way to win, and they will NEVER loose another election. We need to be standing and shouting and fighting over the election. 1994 and 2010 showed them they must steal the elections---and they will from now on. We must stand and fight over the election results.

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Reply 67 - Posted by: JustCause, 1/15/2013 2:01:16 PM     (No. 9118034)

I have to admit, I don´t know Art or his writing.

What I do know is Liberals/progressives/democrats, LIE

Art - Thanks for saying you have seen the light and voted for Mitt. I´ll reserve my ´open arms´ until I see that your actions (future articles, etc) coincide with your latest writings.

Character is doing the right thing when no-one is looking.

Do the right thing.

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Reply 68 - Posted by: AutumnJoy, 1/15/2013 2:16:23 PM     (No. 9118075)

OK, so I am a skeptic...Mr. Trebach wants to publish his recently completed book, thus the mea culpa. Too little too late. This is a just-in-time bid for credibility. He is hedging his bets that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Someday Obama will be soundly,roundly and justifiably vilified. Nice to appear to have been in the vanguard among liberals, I guess.

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Reply 69 - Posted by: BuckeyeRon, 1/15/2013 3:41:15 PM     (No. 9118258)

And another thing...is this the same professor who founded the Drug Policy Foundation which has morphed into the Drug Policy Alliance funded by George Soros and supported by th ACLU to continue the professor´s 30+ year campaign for the leagalization of drugs by mounting state level campaigns? Sheesh!

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Reply 70 - Posted by: artman1746, 1/15/2013 3:43:54 PM     (No. 9118267)

Want to read something ironic? Reread the Declaration of Independence. But read on down where the grievances are listed. Many of those grievances against King George listed by the Founders are the same complaints we write about Obama today.

What´s that saying about when we don´t learn from the past we are bound to repeat it? It looks as though we have come full circle since the founding.

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Reply 71 - Posted by: redwhite&blue2, 1/15/2013 3:45:10 PM     (No. 9118270)

Seems #3 enjoys the pattern of being a troll here. I´ve noticed that pattern repeatedly.

Now for Arthur Trebach---If you can honestly state that you never had BUSH DERANGEMENT SYNDROME I might lighten up and listen to your whining.....but I dont think you can honestly say that, like most kool-aid slurping lefty liars, you hated him and forced this country, along with the corrupt enemedia and academia dolts, into a large and costly SPLIT which we have never recovered from...thats why today my beloved country is what I call the DSA (Divided States of America).You will only convince me that you are authentic if you openly and loudly attempt to convert many more "liberals" into conservatism.....I´ll be watching and waiting for that to happen.

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Reply 72 - Posted by: Tianne, 1/15/2013 3:57:05 PM     (No. 9118299)

Mr. Trebach, in his foreward to, ‘THE BETRAYAL OF THE DREAM
Racial Absurdities in the Obama Era”, describes himself and his fellow civil rights activists during the 1950s and 1960s as, “We naïve idealists…”. Apparently, that description carried over to the 2008 Presidential election when he voted for Barack Obama. Mr. Trebach can backtrack all he wants; can write numerous articles about his dismay; can speechify about his misgivings – but none of that matters now. The sordid fact remains that Mr. Trebach helped to elect Barack Obama to the presidency of the United States in 2008. If he and his other ‘naïve idealists’ had done some research and had voted with their brains instead of with their bleeding hearts, we would not now be in this nightmarish position. Sorry, Mr. Trebach- no present mea culpas can make up for the damage that you have already done.


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Reply 73 - Posted by: Dignitary Protection, 1/15/2013 4:18:37 PM     (No. 9118359)

To my fellow L Dotters. At least Mr. Trebach has seen his mistake.

My wife of over 30 years has a Genius IQ, makes a boatload of money at her job and is a low information voter.

She reads the NY Times and listens to NPR and has voted for Obama twice!

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Reply 74 - Posted by: gone2pot, 1/15/2013 4:26:55 PM     (No. 9118379)

tear down the writer who voted for Mr. Obama even though he has now seen the error of his ways and is working for change. In my humble opinion, little progress toward change is made by tearing down those on your side

Feminine protection is something you no doubt need to purchase and use to get over your sad yeast infection. Your original article was pure PhD firm-grasp-of-the-obvious to most of us knuckle draggers who figured out Obama back in October of 2007 before the Dem primaries got rolling. Yeah, real enlightening stuff there doc. Call Dr Krauthammer, Bill, and the rest of the Lincoln chalice drinkers at the Weekly Standard. They drove their ships aground just like you did and they ignored the consequences of their decisions, even trying to destroy anyone who spoke the truth about Obama BEFORE November, 2008, then having Howard Kurtz-like epiphanies WAY after the election because after all, wouldn´t want to waste all that brilliance, right? Do whatever you´re going to do but it won´t matter now anyway. And get over yourself Doctor Skippy.

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Reply 75 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/15/2013 4:53:36 PM     (No. 9118438)

#74, what in the world are you talking about. #3 makes reasoned comments on occasional threads. Failure to disagree with you doesn´t a troll make.

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Reply 76 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/15/2013 4:54:08 PM     (No. 9118440)

failure to agree


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Reply 77 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 1/15/2013 5:57:14 PM     (No. 9118589)

Professor Trebach, and his ilk, ruined this nation´s future for the brief, feel good moment of voting for a black man for president, based solely on his skin color. Shall we, as conservatives, embrace this pseudo intellectual who will immediately oppose us when, and if, Obama is finally ousted by whatever means possible?

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Reply 78 - Posted by: Britvah1, 1/15/2013 6:10:38 PM     (No. 9118611)

#3 is a troll if there ever was one. Recently he was telling us how we need to embrace filth like Colin Powell in the interest odd having a "bigger tent". Tent ´s not big enough for Sarah Palin though. Right?

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Reply 79 - Posted by: spahrkl, 1/15/2013 6:16:01 PM     (No. 9118619)

I had to laugh to myself when I read about
the turn about of this mans opinion.

It is customary for a liberal to go ahead nd do just as he/she wants and then to say
afterwards 1. he was wrong, 2. he´s sorry,
3. he now knows better,etc. I don´t care whether he/she is a professor or not.

They accomplish what they wanted, then they CYA in this manner. It is playbook routine.


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Reply 80 - Posted by: rocco49, 1/15/2013 6:49:38 PM     (No. 9118692)

Poster #78 and 79, I strongly disagree with you. I think you are mistaken. Read what #74 said again, and then what #81 wrote. They , like me, have witnessed this and if that isnt a troll, then I´m a monkeys uncle! Wise up! Colin Powell is an a**hole who admits voting twice for Obama and we dont need his hypocrisy in our party, nor do I recall anyone here on this fine site supporting him except for that person we are disagreeing about.

As for Arthur Trebach, I am LMAO at people like you...people who voted for Obama in 2008 and now want us to "embrace" them and welcome them after the barn door is slammed shut and all the horses have fled! Sheesh! What chutzpah!

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Reply 81 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 1/15/2013 6:51:27 PM     (No. 9118699)

Amen #21. My dad and I were discussing the same opinion the other day. What happened? It amazes me that the same president who wants to take our guns away is the same president whose biggest backer is Billy Ayers, no stranger to the use of guns. I´m guessing Billy didn´t get his guns and ammo legally.

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Reply 82 - Posted by: pineledger, 1/15/2013 7:02:37 PM     (No. 9118726)

Billy didn´t have ammo. He had explosives.

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Reply 83 - Posted by: Bla Bla, 1/15/2013 7:06:50 PM     (No. 9118733)

Dear Mr. Trebach --

Please excuse those of us on the Right who are skeptical of your conversion through disillusionment. You can hardly blame us the way we´ve been treated, since you described what was done to Romney at the conclusion of this piece, you must know how bitter it could make a lot of us.

As for me, I consider you among the many I am praying for that will see the light through this nightmare administration (that God has allowed) to wake us all up. Leftist policies will destroy this great nation. Every Leftist that defect counts double for the cause of Liberty & Freedom. That is another way to say Civil Rights. And the Right is being targeted to lose theirs.

Welcome, and bring a friend!

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Reply 84 - Posted by: cgood, 1/15/2013 8:50:07 PM     (No. 9118868)

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. It´s time for Americans across the political spectrum to unite against the morons in our government. There is plenty to dislike that we can all agree on.

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Reply 85 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 1/15/2013 9:19:57 PM     (No. 9118900)

I notice #3´s posts and always wonder to myself if he/she didn´t land on the wrong site - again. Not worth paying attention to.

Just to remind you, and nothing to do with this topic, but from what I´ve read, the lamb/sheep is carried on the shepherd´s shoulders because he has broken its legs because it wouldn´t stay with the rest of them and is being punished.

I guess I´m glad the professor has seen the error of his ways, but that doesn´t negate the fact that he made a fatal error of judgment and in his position, has undoubtedly led others to make the same judgment. I gave up a friend of 20 years´ standing in 2008 when she advised me ´I support Mr. Obama´ so I could care less whether Mr Trebach is loved or hated by his readers. The damage is done. As they say, the horse is out of the barn.

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Reply 86 - Posted by: athina, 1/15/2013 9:59:06 PM     (No. 9118943)

It´s hard to trust anybody these days. That´s the bottom line. prove yourself and we will give you our blessing. There will be a moment that proves you are on the right side or not. Then we will know.


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Reply 87 - Posted by: kono, 1/15/2013 11:05:34 PM     (No. 9119043)

Beg ta differ with #88´s take on the lost sheep. The broke-its-legs angle has been around for awhile; but it´s an apocryphal twist at best.

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The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

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Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
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American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

´America´s royal baby´: How Chelsea´s first
child could give Hillary Clinton a boost in
the polls if she runs for president in 2016

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Daily Mail (U.K.), by Jessica Jerreat    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/19/2014 7:12:10 PM     Post Reply
For Hillary Clinton, having her own baby grandchild to kiss on the campaign trail, could be one of the biggest boosts to her possible presidential election campaign. Although the former Secretary of State and First Lady has not said if she will run in 2016, the arrival of her first grandchild will soften her image, analysts have said. While Chelsea only revealed her pregnancy on Thursday, supporters of her mother have already started cooing over a possible baby in the White House. With the Clintons having a near-royal status in the U.S., the announcement of a new arrival due this fall has sent

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

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New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

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Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after


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