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To Serve and Protect—Police Pensions
Wall Street Journal, by Allysia Finley

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Posted By:Emerson, 1/13/2013 7:06:51 AM

What is a powerful public union to do when it looks like a city´s busted balance sheet is finally forcing some fiscal reform? Naturally, buy a house next door to the city manager´s and launch an intimidation campaign aimed at getting him to avoid any real fixes. At least that´s what the police union of Stockton, Calif., did in 2011—with great success. The police union claimed that the home purchase was meant to diversify its "investments." But at the time, Stockton City Manager Bob Deis was asking the union to come to the table and renegotiate benefits that were contributing

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Country Boy, 1/13/2013 7:15:28 AM     (No. 9113672)

Not sure that any rise in violent crime is a result in cuts in police budget.

All the recent mass shootings in the news had plenty of cops around, just not at the scene of the crime. Until it was over. Makes you kind of wonder if cops actually avoid the dangerous parts of the job. With the ultra-fat pensions just over the horizon, would be human nature.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Country Boy, 1/13/2013 7:18:23 AM     (No. 9113674)

Recent shooting at the school in Connecticut, took cops 20 minutes to travel 2 miles to the school. NOBODY can convince me otherwise that they wanted primarily to protect THEMSELVES.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Rivetjoint, 1/13/2013 8:22:28 AM     (No. 9113750)

What´s that old gun owners´ saying? When seconds count, the police are minutes away.


Reply 4 - Posted by: jond, 1/13/2013 10:29:37 AM     (No. 9113967)

Believe that´s procedure #2. Don´t rush into a situation you don´t understand.

Recently looked at firefighting, and that´s #1. Don´t endanger yourself.

Has anyone got through the link to the "Playbook"?


Reply 5 - Posted by: reilly, 1/13/2013 10:43:50 AM     (No. 9114004)


Um, pigs at the trough.


Reply 6 - Posted by: craige, 1/13/2013 11:01:44 AM     (No. 9114039)

Mommy or Daddy cutting the allowance, can cause temper tantrums.


Reply 7 - Posted by: blueline, 1/13/2013 12:47:15 PM     (No. 9114259)

I too have heard that it took 20 minutes for the first officer to arrive at Sandy Hook. I hope that isn´t true. In fact, some rural areas may have response times like that. From what I have heard and read, it should not have been so in this case.
I can tell you that I and my fellow officers are trained and fully prepared to immediately enter the building, run towards the gunfire, and stop the assassin. PERIOD. We are aware that our survival chances are greater if we wait on backup and tactical units, but that strategy ended at Columbine. We won´t wait because doing so would add to the body count.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 1/13/2013 1:00:32 PM     (No. 9114300)

Re #4, the Playbook is a pdf document that must be downloaded. It´s at the link.


Reply 9 - Posted by: chief1942, 1/13/2013 9:54:53 PM     (No. 9114858)

"Can no longer assure your safety". Are they kidding? What does everyone think this current battle over the second Amendemnt is about? It´s also about an individual´s right to defend themselves in light of a Supreme Court ruling stating that police have no obligation to protect citizens. They are simply to followup AFTER the law has been broken. I was in "Public Safety" for 29 years and if you think 911 is going to save your butt, I´d like to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. Get real people and pull your heads out of the sand.



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