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Lance Armstrong´s
worldwide web of lies

New York Daily News, by Mike Lupica

Original Article

Posted By:StormCnter, 1/13/2013 5:43:55 AM

To the end Lance Armstrong, desperate to remain relevant, somehow is allowed to control his own narrative. So after all the lies from Armstrong from across all the years, lies about himself and about all those who dared to tell the truth about him, there comes one last one: That he still has something we want. To the end this guy thinks he can play the whole world for suckers. Unless Armstrong and his team of lawyers and crisis managers have him back out of his interview with Oprah Winfrey at the last moment

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Welcome to Pete Rose´s tarnished world, Mr. Armstrong. There are consequences to the brand, even for the icons.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Japanorama, 1/13/2013 6:33:58 AM     (No. 9113632)

I´ll bet every pro cyclist uses drugs or blood doping.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 1/13/2013 7:01:48 AM     (No. 9113654)

Sorry, #2. Lots of athletes can do wondrous things with the help of performance enhancement drugs, even racehorses. It´s not ok.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Hank Reardon, 1/13/2013 7:04:11 AM     (No. 9113659)

Bet your wrong, #1.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Hank Reardon, 1/13/2013 7:04:55 AM     (No. 9113661)

you´re

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Crosscut, 1/13/2013 7:10:54 AM     (No. 9113667)

Let all these jock morons of whatever sport drug away. I don´t care.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Emerson, 1/13/2013 7:14:02 AM     (No. 9113669)

Lupica has never accomplished anything, drugged or not.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: earlybird, 1/13/2013 7:17:56 AM     (No. 9113673)

The "drug" that Armstrong is accused of using has been an integral part of cancer treatment, to prevent anemia by aiding in rebuilding the red blood cell production damaged by chemotherapy, for some time. He would have had to have it for that purpose. Did that get snarled up with his racing?

When you read the reports most of the griping comes from his competitors and their wives. It seems to me that they have a built-in conflict of interest.

That said, I have no interest in Oprah ever, regardless of her guest.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/13/2013 7:45:14 AM     (No. 9113705)

I hear ads on the radio all the time on products boosting testosterone and others selling HGH formulas but both are considered as PEDs by professional sports owners/operators.Both products are produced naturally by the body and all these supplements do is boost the levels causing quicker muscle development. I mean whey power products can do the same thing.So it´s hard for me to understand why legal products are banned from sports use. You still need a base skill to produce in any sport.

I don´t know what Armstrong is accused of,nor do I care because I hate the sport of cycling to begin with.One of Armstrong´s whistle blowers said he got death threats,more that likely some came from Armstrong himself. Whatever stupid mea culpa he does on Oprah means absolutely nothing to me.He´s only came clean after evidence cornered him in a box.I have questions about his mentality from dating Cheryl Crow,a lefty fruitcake if there ever was one.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: bpl40, 1/13/2013 8:01:43 AM     (No. 9113721)

This is cabinet level talent. Zippy must not let it go waste. What, no experience or qualification for the job? Even better!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: tocsin, 1/13/2013 8:19:43 AM     (No. 9113745)

You lost me at Opie

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Reply 11 - Posted by: vesicant, 1/13/2013 8:38:32 AM     (No. 9113767)

Maybe scumbama dopes? It would explain a lot.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 1/13/2013 8:39:27 AM     (No. 9113769)

We´ll have to see what the actual ´confession´ is, but this is a huge disappointment. Perhaps cyclists like Greg LeMond feel a little bit vindicated now, since he had blowing the whistle on Armstrong and others for many years.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Edgelady, 1/13/2013 8:44:11 AM     (No. 9113778)

A cheat is a cheat; his scam was so elaborate he´d have blood transfusions to get rid of evidence. He wasn´t just a bad husband and a cad - he let down a whole bunch of people at his foundation.

I´m talking about the essence of the man´s character. You can use the relativity of his enhanced prowess all you want. That memory will now be cast aside because of his other gargantuan effort: lie and fool everybody.

To me it´s perfectly pitiful that he´s taken the Oprah route. There´s historical evidence now as to how bad many her choices of champion have gone. I chose not to get her channel, but wouldn´t watch it anyway, not even to see him do the grovelling bit on TV.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: LZK, 1/13/2013 8:46:55 AM     (No. 9113788)

Those who can -- DO -- those who can´t write stories and sniff jock straps....

Love that line -- poster # 2....

It´s like movie critics and food critics....

Who cares........ The man beat cancer, cycled into the history books inspite of the dogs biting at his back....

It´s not like the hilton tramps or the kardasian misfits who did "nothing" and are media pets....

Mediocre seems to be the rallying cry for this bunch -- led by lupica.

LZK

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Reply 15 - Posted by: skedaddle, 1/13/2013 8:52:32 AM     (No. 9113802)

I´m so disappointed...that Oprah is still doing interviews.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: knarfski, 1/13/2013 8:53:23 AM     (No. 9113805)

Deal with it #2...reminds me of a Clinton defense: "It´s all about sex." No, it was about lies--to millions and millions of people, far and wide. POTUS!

Armstrong: the "greatest man" in competitive cycling? Greatest?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 1/13/2013 9:04:34 AM     (No. 9113832)

Just as is Oprah, ´´Snakey, sneaky, awash in self importance.´´ Poster #1 wins first place for Cynic of the Day.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: navybrat, 1/13/2013 9:17:58 AM     (No. 9113850)

I don´t understand all the interest in a bicycle rider. What is so wonderful about him even if he did not take drugs.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: cb, 1/13/2013 9:36:26 AM     (No. 9113875)

Lance trashed a lot of people who were telling the truth. I wonder if his apology will include that.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: JAN, 1/13/2013 9:47:59 AM     (No. 9113891)

Compared to the lies told by O and his cohorts, this is irrelevant.

JMO

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Reply 21 - Posted by: postaway, 1/13/2013 9:51:11 AM     (No. 9113898)

The lefty Mike Lupica is not a beloved figure on this blog and for good reason. Another athlete of a different color or race would probably be treated, if anything was said at all by Lupica, with sympathy and the kind of paternalism that now passes for compassion. But cheating is cheating. We long for heroes but are fed a steady diet f phoneys. It´s not good for our children to see us make excuses for such people. And having or having had cancer isn´t no excuse. Armstrong was living a lie rather than trying to reform a dirty sport.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 1/13/2013 10:03:26 AM     (No. 9113922)

#2 and #8 said it best - I do remember that incident and it was whiners from other countries that started that rumor and at the time, I thought it was stupid that no meds, no nothing could be taken by an athelete. Good lord, they get sick, have allergies and sometimes need medicines. The other countries were dismal.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: mozey, 1/13/2013 10:21:33 AM     (No. 9113950)

Oh poor me. Armstrong is just another narcissist who will do or say or leak anything to keep himself on the front page. As an above poster mentioned, he reminds me of Pete Rose. But at least Rose has just reduced himself to whining and selling signed pictures, not crying to a bunch of foolish women and their Leader, Oprah. Armstrong has now hit bottom.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: gazela, 1/13/2013 10:31:34 AM     (No. 9113973)

I can´t say I care much for Armstrong´s lies and treatment of other people, but I fail to see how taking him down does anything to vindicate the sport of cycling. It seems that everyone in the top tier of cyclists was doping and that nobody won any of the big races without doping. It´s disappointing, but not terribly surprising, that Armstrong wasn´t the super-athlete that he appeared to be, but his sport was, and probably always will be, dirty with dope.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: bldrrepub, 1/13/2013 11:02:04 AM     (No. 9114040)

Good Lord people.

Its not (just) about the doping. It is the trafficking, the lying, the bribery to the UCI, and USADA, the witness intimidation in a Federal case, the threatening of other riders´ wives, the public humiliation of anyone who dared question the myth, and on and on.

His own "Doctor" who started his doping program (Ferrari) thought that his early doping in the 90s gave him his cancer.

Get a clue.



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Reply 26 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 1/13/2013 11:03:34 AM     (No. 9114044)

Lupica would probably do a lot better better if he started juicing, #2...

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Reply 27 - Posted by: nonsense, 1/13/2013 11:07:30 AM     (No. 9114054)

Very strange, the interview has not taken place, yet we have all the "details". Very psychically interesting.

If only we had the same type of intellectual interest in the drug users who live and reign at the highest levels of the national government.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: mamafrog, 1/13/2013 11:10:46 AM     (No. 9114063)

Cycling is a sport where everyone cheats, I learned that decades ago when I saw Breaking Away. I really don´t care about whether Lance cheated. I do admire his fight against cancer and I hope that he can go on to have a productive and meaningful life. But most of all I am glad that he has a life because he beat cancer.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: TexaTucky, 1/13/2013 11:27:33 AM     (No. 9114103)

He threw his family away.

My hero.

But at least he has a sniffable jock.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: califedup, 1/13/2013 11:41:07 AM     (No. 9114129)

Just the fact that Lance Armstrong is confessing his "sins" to the most worthless obese lump of flesh in existence (except Michael Moore) , Oprah Winfrey, who´s own "career" was built on a mountain of lies tells you just what kind of person Armstrong really is and how the moral standards of this country are almost to rock bottom. These two (Oprah and Lance)deserve each other.

Must not see TV. Gross.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: navyjag907, 1/13/2013 11:46:23 AM     (No. 9114139)

I stopped being excited about being able to ride a bicycle when I turned 11. And I don´t own a TV so I can´t watch all the trash stuff. But Armstrong is a loser and a crook; if wants forgiveness, there are churches in that business.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: columba, 1/13/2013 11:48:58 AM     (No. 9114144)

You have to hand it to Obama ... uh Lance: his lies are often believable.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: RancherJack, 1/13/2013 11:59:54 AM     (No. 9114162)

Obama´s Life coach

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Reply 34 - Posted by: bluefindad, 1/13/2013 12:10:15 PM     (No. 9114185)

Lance has been confronted with his own version of the ´blue dress´. It is destroying him.

Does Armstrong deserve his fate? Oh, yes. But wait, maybe he doesn´t. After all, what happened to the first man to be confronted with the blue dress?

Could there be different standards for politicians than sports figures?



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Reply 35 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 1/13/2013 12:25:17 PM     (No. 9114221)

I´m conflicted about all of this. I tend to think, he got away with it fair and square, and probably most of his competitors were doing it too. He put in a lot of work cheating, it was very risky to himself, and that should be respected.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: bldrrepub, 1/13/2013 1:56:38 PM     (No. 9114382)

Let´s not forget a meeting with Senator Diane Feinstein; two weeks later, his charity Livestrong makes a $100,000 donation to Planned Parenthood. One week later, Feinstein protege and US Attorney Andre Birotte drops the Justice Department´s criminal investigation with no consultation with the Federal investigators and only 15 minute notice.

Yeah, every bike racer does that - because they all do it. I saw it in a movie.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: trapper, 1/13/2013 2:10:11 PM     (No. 9114397)

Lance Armstrong apparently took substances he knew were against the rules and then lied about it. Not once, which would make him weak and human, but over and over and over again, which makes him a liar and a cheat. Once one´s lack of character has been confirmed, only a lifetime of pennance and demonstrated change can earn back the trust that was destroyed. There is no quick fix.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: SaguaroJack, 1/13/2013 2:12:09 PM     (No. 9114402)

The fix to doping is simple. Have two categories - the undoped and the doped. The undoped would be the only ones eligible to win a competition.

The doped could race and all that, but couldn´t win anything. Or perhaps have a 1st, 2d and 3d among the dopers.

The award ceremony would have to come a week or so after an event to allow for dope testing.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: MariettaGator, 1/13/2013 2:40:39 PM     (No. 9114444)

#2 you´re an idiot and I´m ashamed you claim to be a Gator...

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Reply 40 - Posted by: suncitypro, 1/13/2013 2:50:12 PM     (No. 9114458)

#26--Absolutely right!
Lance, plain and simple is a liar.
But then again liberals think that is a resume´ enhancer.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: thelmalou, 1/13/2013 2:52:36 PM     (No. 9114460)

I knew all I needed to know about Lance Armstrong when he threw away his wife and kids for the glamour of fame and fortune. So this surprises me not one whit. Just another lying cheat who wants everybody to overlook his indiscretions so he can "move ahead" with the work of the people. Or something.


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Reply 42 - Posted by: LoneVoice, 1/13/2013 3:06:21 PM     (No. 9114478)

I don´t understand the continued hero worship of a man who shown himself to be an absolute creep.

I saw the same thing when Clinton lied under oath.

I guess the rules that apply to us little people don´t apply to your heros.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: bob913, 1/13/2013 3:18:10 PM     (No. 9114488)

Will he give up all the money he made by lying and cheating? Nope.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: Japanorama, 1/13/2013 3:55:02 PM     (No. 9114529)

Many contemporary celebrities (athletes included) subscribe to the idea that the ends justify the means, because, once famous and rich, one can afford as many mea culpas as needed to pacify the law-abiding, uncelebrated suckers.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: oldvlc, 1/13/2013 4:05:29 PM     (No. 9114539)

Lance used epogen, a red blood cell multiplier that, guess what, thousands of kidney patients and others use to maintain some level of energy through their day. I used to give myself injections of it daily when I was on dialysis, not that it helped greatly in the treatment of dying kidneys. I do NOT consider that substance much of an aid to the blood. Lance was the greatest cycling athlete since the Belgian Eddy Merkx, and his accomplishments should not have been ignored because of epogen. It just is not that much of a stimulant, if at all.

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Reply 46 - Posted by: oldvlc, 1/13/2013 4:11:58 PM     (No. 9114547)

#4 you don´t know the seedy underside of professional European cycling. #1 would probably win a bet with you; the pressure and stakes are enormous for riders who routinely ride an average of 28 to 30 MPH over hundreds of miles, or in the case of the Tour, thousands. These kids see racing as their only hope out of desparate conditions, and are superstitious to the max along with willing to try anything to
give them an edge.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: kelty, 1/13/2013 5:28:12 PM     (No. 9114626)

Breaking News: Asshat remains an asshat



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Reply 48 - Posted by: leftcoastmom, 1/13/2013 8:15:22 PM     (No. 9114782)

If they were all doping then the "playing field" was still equal...yes? He is going to say that the drugs were for his cancer...probably true. This whole thing is sad. Please continue to support Livestrong!

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Reply 49 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/13/2013 8:57:33 PM     (No. 9114809)

Whether it´s Lance Armstrong, Tiger Woods,
Pete Rose, Michael Vick or other athletes,
kids look up to you and you lied and cheated when given extraordinary opportunities they can only hope to have one day.

This is poor representation of the US worldwide.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: Polecat49, 1/13/2013 9:00:10 PM     (No. 9114811)

#48. kind of sounds like any athlete who wants to turn pro OR kid wanting to be a democRAT politician.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: Moonspinner, 1/13/2013 9:19:24 PM     (No. 9114831)

I really don´t care what Lance Armstrong did or didn´t do. I am more concerned about what politicians are doing to this country. Wish the media went after Obama and his ilk like they have been after Armstrong.

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A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Pelosi assists in Holy Week
foot-washing ritual

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San Francisco Chronicle, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: Harlowe- 4/18/2014 11:46:54 AM     Post Reply
To "honor the dignity and work of immigrants," Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi helps Bishop Marc Andrus wash the feet of two children Thursday at Saint John the Evangelist Episcopal Church in San Francisco. Pelosi also used the occasion to talk about passing HR15 - bipartisan immigration legislation that her office says would "reduce the deficit by nearly $1 trillion, secure our borders, unite our families, protect our workers and provide an earned pathway to citizenship." The Democratic leader´s ceremony coincides with Pope Francis´ similar ceremony in Rome to mark Holy Week.

Deadbeat on the Range
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New York Times, by Timothy Eagan    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.


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