A Message From Lucianne  







S-G1




























ST-GC



        
 

 
Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google


  Topic: Hostess sells Wonder Bread and five
other brands to Tastykakes baker
for $390m with new Twinkies owner
expected in a matter of weeks
Change your user profile.
If you are having trouble posting, please take the time to register.
Your User Name :
Your Password
  I forgot my password
Your Reply  :
Preview Reply     Post Reply
Hostess sells Wonder Bread and five
other brands to Tastykakes baker
for $390m with new Twinkies owner
expected in a matter of weeks

Daily Mail [UK], by Staff

Original Article

Posted By:KarenJ1, 1/12/2013 7:31:57 PM

Hostess has found a new home for its most popular breads, including the iconic Wonder Bread. The bankrupt maker of Twinkies, Devil Dogs and other snack cakes said late Friday that it selected bids by rival bakery Flower Foods Inc. to buy six of its bread brands for $390 million. Flower Foods, based in Thomasville, Ga., is best known for Tastykakes but also makes breads including Nature´s Own and Cobblestone Mill. Hostess is expected to announce buyers for its famed dessert cakes in coming weeks. The company has said a wide variety of parties have

Comments:
Flowers Foods, don´t have unionized work forces for the most part as stated in the article below from the WSJ. Good move on their part!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203436904577153092304399110.html

      


Post Reply  

Reply 1 - Posted by: billp, 1/12/2013 7:55:20 PM     (No. 9113301)

Union problem... handled!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Topic Thunder, 1/12/2013 8:07:38 PM     (No. 9113313)

Tastykakes and Twinkies - sounds like a match made in heaven!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


   

 

R-G1
  
R-VAR_AD


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: EnsignO´Toole, 1/12/2013 8:16:44 PM     (No. 9113318)

Finally I can get my Home Pride bread back. I stopped eating Twinkies in my 30´s or 40´s or maybe it was my 50´s, but I´m looking so forward to eating them again. I don´t care how much gunk they put in my arteries. Let´s hope more companies handle their union problem equally as well.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 4 - Posted by: PageTurner, 1/12/2013 8:27:59 PM     (No. 9113323)

I was hoping the Mexicans would get their hands on it. Would seem fitting somehow - union thugs drive Hostess into the hands of the Mexicans.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 5 - Posted by: hdgalley, 1/12/2013 8:37:37 PM     (No. 9113326)

Hello Unions.. I´m sure that you are really happy with you being unemployed, after striking and wanting more!!!!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Illinois Mom, 1/12/2013 8:58:23 PM     (No. 9113336)

I want my Beefsteak dark rye back.

I am so glad that Hostess found a buyer and that the employees who made their demands found the door.

If you have a job be darned glad you have it.



  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 7 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 1/12/2013 9:07:04 PM     (No. 9113349)

The union sure showed them, didn´t they!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: jalo1951, 1/12/2013 9:27:03 PM     (No. 9113371)

There was a Hostess Store I would stop at every other week or so. Sure enjoyed the Suzie Q´s and the Ho Ho´s. I am hoping it will be able to reopen under new management. It did good business.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 9 - Posted by: leftcoastmom, 1/13/2013 12:23:15 AM     (No. 9113501)

Deep Fried Twinkies.....AAAHHHHHH!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 10 - Posted by: msjena, 1/13/2013 12:29:23 AM     (No. 9113505)

Ha ha, unions--laughing all the way to the bank.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/13/2013 3:36:12 AM     (No. 9113559)

This is great news,even more so that Tastykake bought them.I remember when Tastykake products were a nickle.

I´ve seen knock off twinkies at the convenience store. I think they´re made by Drakes.

$390M seems like a reasonable price also.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 12 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/13/2013 3:37:39 AM     (No. 9113561)

#3, I am with you. I hope they make Home Pride again!!! That was the best bread on mass market.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


   

 

B-G1


 
Reply 13 - Posted by: Trigger2, 1/13/2013 5:27:43 AM     (No. 9113596)

The fact that all those Hostess unions got shafted in their quest for more greed is the best part. I hope they enjoy their limited unemployment checks and give thanks to their previous union bosses for being so smart.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 14 - Posted by: reilly, 1/13/2013 7:07:18 AM     (No. 9113663)


How can we do this with the teachers and government employees unions? The system is broker than bankrupt Hostess.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    3 persons like this.


Reply 15 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/13/2013 7:08:05 AM     (No. 9113664)

In my young years (long ago), our bread was baked by my mother or my dad. The only time store-purchased bread was served was in an emergency. There were snide references to "light bread" if it was on the table. But, Wonder Bread came sliced and even my mother was seduced by the convenience of WB for school sandwiches. My own children, however, refused to eat it, saying it tasted like soap.

I´m glad Wonder Bread was saved.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 16 - Posted by: Right Republican, 1/13/2013 7:32:46 AM     (No. 9113688)

OK, fine and dandy, the union´s ruined. Where do workers go from here? Do they go back to the same jobs for less pay and benefits? I can´t believe one could make a living for your standard family of four on bakery wages anyway. They´ll probably now qualify for income support even though they are working. Wages go down, welfare goes up, the stockholders get rich and the public gets food we shouldn´t be eating a lot of anyway drops a bit in price (maybe). What exactly was accomplished here? Seriously.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 17 - Posted by: abstain, 1/13/2013 7:40:35 AM     (No. 9113699)

Try having no work. Seriously.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


   

 

R_DBL_B
  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: lilo, 1/13/2013 7:48:13 AM     (No. 9113707)

Union BOSSES got richer. The workers got the shaft.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 19 - Posted by: Grambo, 1/13/2013 8:13:23 AM     (No. 9113735)

I can hear Ayn Rand chuckling in he great beyond.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 1/13/2013 8:41:10 AM     (No. 9113772)

If you can´t beat ´em, buy ´em!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 21 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/13/2013 8:44:17 AM     (No. 9113780)

I haven´t eaten Tastykakes since I was a kid, but look forward to buying them when available, JUST to support this bakery.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 22 - Posted by: LZK, 1/13/2013 8:54:00 AM     (No. 9113807)

Do ya get the feeling that big business is showing Washington the "naughty" finger? Seems to me this loss for the "union shops" is telling DC something.....

Those of US who survived many hardships and came out the other side winners -- are taking control of our lives again....

The demorats and republicans in DC don´t give a "darn" (not my first choice) and WE´re taking back our power -- FREEDOM..

Part of pelousy and reid and bamboozler´s game -- IS -- they must "convince" US they are in control. Well -- baby -- WE know better... Watch out!! WE´re on the move again -- American style....

LZK

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: locomotivebreath1901, 1/13/2013 8:56:39 AM     (No. 9113812)

Management: $390 million in the bank;

Unions: unemployed.

Golly. Them union guys sure showed management who´s boss!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 24 - Posted by: heidicat, 1/13/2013 8:58:32 AM     (No. 9113817)

Tastykakes are the BEST. We Philly people always felt sorry for the rest of the world being "stuck" with Twinkies, and thinking they were good. Please just don´t contaminate my Tastykakes with any of that twinkie junk.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment


Reply 25 - Posted by: Right Republican, 1/13/2013 8:59:32 AM     (No. 9113821)

Unemployed workers receive more in benefits than the working poor. Aren´t we looking for solutions here, or is just revenge and shadenfreude good enough?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 26 - Posted by: KanCreeper, 1/13/2013 9:01:21 AM     (No. 9113826)

My Grandfather´s 3 bakeries made Wonder and Hostess in the South... They were always in the house. Will welcome them back.

18,500( and how many of their family members?) customers will probably never eat them again...or spend their ´Obama Bucks´ on those products. Wonder if the Union Bosses have any regrets now? You have to ask who´s kissing whom in the Union Halls?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 27 - Posted by: 66Strat, 1/13/2013 9:39:46 AM     (No. 9113879)

Tastykakes are awesome - especially the Butterscotch Krimpets and peanut butter Tandy Takes. Hopefully this means they become more widely available.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 28 - Posted by: hawgguy, 1/13/2013 9:42:50 AM     (No. 9113883)

R2, shadenfreude will have to do for now. Raw, unbridled free markets can correct the problem by determining the fair price for labor. The bakery worker who cannot support his family can either increase the value of his labor as a baker or aspire and work to do something else.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 29 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 1/13/2013 9:57:59 AM     (No. 9113911)

#16 - Hostess was losing money at a fast clip. There was no argument for keeping it going. There are many losers here - the workers who blindly followed their union over the cliff, the stockholders, creditors, and taxpayers. The creditors and stockholders will likely lose their entire investment or will recoup pennies on the dollar. Taxpayers will end up supporting the workers for a while or forever depending on whether they go back to work, take disability or retire on social security.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 30 - Posted by: otaval, 1/13/2013 10:06:55 AM     (No. 9113929)

same results could have happened with auto companies but no one seems to want to recognise this

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 31 - Posted by: raisedright2, 1/13/2013 10:13:16 AM     (No. 9113940)

The Plant Manager from the Rocky Mount, NC plant is available and ready to work at a moment´s notice! Hehehe and he just might remember who crossed the line *to work* and who sat on their bums in front picketing a company in bankruptcy.

The bakery paid an average of $14.65/hour with excellent health benefits. This does not include shipping or the sales routes (delivery trucks), or semi drivers. Does it support a family of four? No, but these are unskilled jobs.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 32 - Posted by: MattMusson, 1/13/2013 10:24:15 AM     (No. 9113952)

Can´t wait for the State Fair to have DEEP FRIED TWINKIES again!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 33 - Posted by: raisedright2, 1/13/2013 10:37:09 AM     (No. 9113985)

Sorry for multiple post. Flowers does have one union plant, the union was there when they bought the plant. Flowers handed them a contract, said "sign here or we close the plant for one year." Union signed. BAM!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 34 - Posted by: BetseyRoss, 1/13/2013 10:56:01 AM     (No. 9114020)

Happy ending. Problem solved. I sure hope that the rest of America is watching. This is how you solve a problem like the government. Just go around them. Git´er done!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 35 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 1/13/2013 11:10:11 AM     (No. 9114061)

Wonder Bread - kills strong unions twelve ways.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 36 - Posted by: Caveman, 1/13/2013 11:33:04 AM     (No. 9114113)

Well, now that they don´t have to pay 8 different delivery drivers to take a box of Twinkies each to a store, maybe they can pay the people that actually make them more.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 37 - Posted by: RancherJack, 1/13/2013 12:01:07 PM     (No. 9114165)

Unions = evil

end of story

Psst - why do so many unions begin with "International Brotherhood"

Because they ultimately have their roots in Communism.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 38 - Posted by: veritas, 1/13/2013 12:11:30 PM     (No. 9114187)

#24, #27: Bingo. For those who haven´t had Tastykakes, well, there´s just no comparison to other packaged cakes. None. Not any. The quality and freshness are in a class by themselves. Other packaged cakes give a sense of, "Hey, are there really any natural ingredients in... whatever this thing is?" Tatsykakes are what mother would have baked -- if she had been the very best baker in town! I have 3 boxes of Peanut Butter Kandykakes in the house now.

#28: Exactly. Where´d the moronic idea come from [I know - from the Left] that every job must pay enough to support a family?

#29: Correct across the board. Changes had to be made at Hostess for any of it to survive, but the union [and probably gov´t] said "No!" Hostess replied, "Glug, glug, glug...." As Walter Williams has discussed, the normal course of business is the best, most-efficient way to re-allocate resources from less-efficient [declining] business activities into more-efficient ones. Is it painless? Easy? Simple? No -- but pretty much every other approach, all of which are more-artificial, tail-wags-dog approaches, will in the long run cause more problems, more pain, more losses, more dislocation, take longer, and make the problems even worse.

Re unions: didja ever notice that they don´t buy stock in the companies where their members work? Revealing, when you think about it.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 39 - Posted by: starboard, 1/13/2013 12:16:13 PM     (No. 9114197)

After all the negative news, something like this makes you relish every delicious bite. I hope this sets more corporate Dominos in motion, one click at a time.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 40 - Posted by: Right Republican, 1/13/2013 12:45:18 PM     (No. 9114255)

" Exactly. Where´d the moronic idea come from [I know - from the Left] that every job must pay enough to support a family?"

One of the areas that we must do better at is not seeming so heartless and cruel.

First, history shows us even in America´s past the free market will drive down wages below what it would take to live even in the lower middle class.

Second, even both husband and wife are $15.00 per hour workers in their family of four it means they will be living in poverty--not even the lower middle class.

We continue to say that not everyone is college material, and they aren´t, so what are we to do? Condemn all the rest to jobs which pay poverty-level wages?

Somebody´s got to bake the snacks. Will they taste better if baked by workers receiving third-world level wages with few if any benefits?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 41 - Posted by: Right Republican, 1/13/2013 12:48:48 PM     (No. 9114264)

I mean if both husband and wife´s wages TOTAl $15.00 they will be living in poverty.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 42 - Posted by: kate318, 1/13/2013 1:00:53 PM     (No. 9114301)

#40, "One of the areas that we must do better at is not seeming so heartless and cruel." No, we must do better at not allowing people to make us feel "heartless and cruel" for not drinking the kool-aid of socialism. We all have choices. Perhaps people making $15/hr shouldn´t have a family of four. Not having a college degree does not condemn you to a life of low wages. You have to make careful choices, work hard and think outside the box. Both my husband I did it, and have raised our 3 sons to do the same.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 43 - Posted by: suziesuburbanite, 1/13/2013 1:05:02 PM     (No. 9114309)

Strike - an attempt to increase egg production by strangling the chicken

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 44 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 1/13/2013 1:07:41 PM     (No. 9114317)

I grew up in a one-company town (the company produced steel). The company had a union.

The steel mill became obsolete, and was shutdown piece-meal, and eventually completely shutdown (the last two blast furnaces were 80 years old and 100 years old).

The union was powerless to stop the shutdown, and it was not cost effective to upgrade an old mill.

At that point the town had no business to drive the local economy. People that had any money moved away. The town ended up with the third highest crime rate in the county. Not good.

The town never attracted any new business. If anyone ever contacted the town about opening a new business, the union would be there. The town officials were tied to the union. No new business ever moved in.

My brother and I moved away. We eventually moved our parents. It was unsafe. The town has had a curfew for the last 30-40 years. The purpose of the curfew was to keep law-abiding citizens off the street for their own safety. I always laugh when I see an article questioning the legality of curfews.

Unions had alot to do with the state of the town. Unions have a place, but can be extremely destructive. Unions take on a life of their own, and stop looking out for anyone but the union itself.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment


Reply 45 - Posted by: plumnellie, 1/13/2013 1:41:20 PM     (No. 9114362)

StormCenter: my mother remembers visiting a neighbor and having her first light bread, mayo and tomato sandwish. She was 9yrs old. Now, 81 years later she can still ´taste´ it and relish the memory.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 46 - Posted by: lana720, 1/13/2013 1:58:09 PM     (No. 9114384)

I remember when TasteeKakes were only available in PA and NJ. Loved their butterscotch.

Nice finger in the eye of another union - have you guys figured out Cause and Effect yet???

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 47 - Posted by: truthfetish, 1/13/2013 2:11:37 PM     (No. 9114401)

Lazy reporting.

FTA: "Flower Foods, based in Thomasville, Ga., is best known for Tastykakes . . , " yet they´ve only had the Tastykake brand since last summer, when they acquired the Tasty Baking Company of Philadelphia.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 48 - Posted by: Me?Opinionated?Nah!, 1/13/2013 2:13:54 PM     (No. 9114404)

While growing up, it was Wonder Bread (often referred to as cotton bread) on my family’s table. Time Marches On! Today, it’s nothing less than delectable, absolutely uncotton, 12-grain bread for me. Does that make me a “Progressive?” Good grief, I hope not!

Over many years, it’s been my up-close-and-personal observation and experience that once-worthwhile unions have evolved and ultimately become an impediment to businesses and their employees, not an asset. For their members, unions seem to bollix up almost everything they can get their heavy hands on. However, for their bosses, it’s quite the opposite.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 49 - Posted by: St. Clair River rat, 1/13/2013 2:26:16 PM     (No. 9114423)

I hope they do not change the recipes.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 50 - Posted by: suncitypro, 1/13/2013 2:42:48 PM     (No. 9114446)

I just hope and pray that bo´s favorite golf courses go out of business because they can´t deal with the seiu demands, and/or they can´t afford bo care payments.
Out

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 51 - Posted by: msjena, 1/13/2013 2:44:24 PM     (No. 9114449)

Unions need to realize that they are part of the free market. If they price themselves too high, the employer will seek alternatives, which can include moving, sending jobs overseas or going out of business. The wage spriral they expect--wage increases with no increase in production-- is what makes their wages "unliveable" because it is inflationary.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 52 - Posted by: Browneyes, 1/13/2013 2:55:13 PM     (No. 9114465)

Beefsteak rye was the best. Tastykakes are now in most super markets up here on the No. Shore of MA.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 53 - Posted by: dvc, 1/13/2013 3:03:24 PM     (No. 9114476)

Somehow the idea that ALL JOBS will earn a "living wage" - is a leftist fantasy that is fundamentally at odds with reality, like all leftist ideas.

A job will pay what it is worth economically, with a premium for rare and highly productive skills. If the worker cannot live on that pay, then the worker gets another job, or gets some higher valued skills and a job that will create more economic value so it will pay more.

The unions fail to connect value created by the work product with worker wages, and this disconnect destroys companies if unions persist.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 54 - Posted by: Aria, 1/13/2013 3:39:42 PM     (No. 9114505)

Unions I had to deal with in our business were run by thugs. Oh the stories I could tell. Their main goal was their own power. We started an industry in our area, trained our workers - totaling at lest in the hundreds - signed up with the unions since they controlled (supposedly) our customers ability to hire us. Long story short - unions didn´t hold up their end of the deal and we ended up competing against non-union labor that often cost 1/3 of what we had to pay. And it got really old on Fridays listening to our employees - reading the union book to us explaining why we had to pay them for accomplishing little to less.

After 30+ years we lost everything. Fortunately the work ethic and ingenuity that we had in the first place has now given us a comfortable life once again. And guess what - we did it with no permanent employees and no unions. Lesson learned.

And BTW, RR#16 - if taxes and spending weren´t so out of control maybe we could afford to support our families on less - like most of the USA did in the 1950s before our completely unsuccessful War on Poverty, etc. etc.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 55 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 1/13/2013 4:15:16 PM     (No. 9114551)

I have never supported Union policies or politics But just one reminder All the Unions involved except 1 voted to go back to work in a compromise.
That 1 union alone caused thousands of people to loose their jobs.
The out of work union members not involved with the bakers union should work to eliminate that obstruction from their work world.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 56 - Posted by: tipover, 1/13/2013 4:35:52 PM     (No. 9114573)

Food, Shelter is a given requirement. Then the mandatory health insurance. That should really help at the end of the month. /s

Gonna be a lot of hurting folks when the "Affordable Care Act" really kicks in.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 57 - Posted by: raisedright2, 1/13/2013 5:50:27 PM     (No. 9114648)

#55, yes, all but one of the unions voted for the contract, but, through the years, all of them contributed to the mess the company was in in the end, with a little help from lousy management.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 58 - Posted by: peterfleming, 1/13/2013 6:01:20 PM     (No. 9114652)

In Los Angeles, one of the most beautiful sites is the Bel Air Hotel. They closed down for three years, the P R was to re model, re decorate. The truth was to go into bankruptcy during those three years and rid themselves of the cancerous union growth....which tey did. Now they´re back open and cancer free. The same thing is happening in New York, older, finer places, overtaken by union cancer, going BK for recovery.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 59 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua, 1/13/2013 6:05:05 PM     (No. 9114656)

Pardon the second post. Another story.

There was another company where the union called a strike. They were out for over a year. The company gave the union a final ultimatim. Take the current offer or we shutdown permanently. The union refused the offer, and the company shutdown permanently.

A few days after that, there happened to be rank and file workers calling a radio talk show. Seemed the rank and file was ready to return to work, but somehow the union ´leadership´ overruled the rank and file. The workers calling the talk show were truly shocked at what happened. They felt the union had betrayed them.

Btw, the Democrats are not pro-labor. They are pro-UNION-labor.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment


Reply 60 - Posted by: curious1, 1/13/2013 6:18:15 PM     (No. 9114665)

#40,
"Second, even both husband and wife are $15.00 per hour workers in their family of four it means they will be living in poverty--not even the lower middle class." According to my calculator, both working 50 weeks a year comes to $60k plus they had nice benefits. That´s poverty? I´d say that´s not managing your budget.

"We continue to say that not everyone is college material, and they aren´t, so what are we to do? Condemn all the rest to jobs which pay poverty-level wages?"
Plumbers, Electricians, Truck Drivers, heavy-equipment operators, welders, etc, etc don´t require college and pay well once you have experience - if the unions aren´t bulloxing things up where you work.
We (the government) shouldn´t do anything - the government needs to get out of the way completely. In case you haven´t heard, central control doesn´t work - for every ´problem´ government solves it creates two or more of equal or greater magnitude. You sound just like a L/P troll pushing the bogus demand for equal outcome - which under socialism means equal misery, no matter how hard or smart you work. Which isn´t American or America. The document reads ´pursuit of happiness´ not guaranteed happiness, which the government can never give anyway.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 61 - Posted by: Mother of AL, 1/13/2013 6:30:47 PM     (No. 9114681)

Another union story. My father in law worked for a local meat packing co. Union reps came to the owner (a good guy), and wanted outlandish wages, etc. Owner said no. Union said we´ll make big trouble. Owner said--ok will give you all you want. Only one problem. Company will no longer deduct union dues from checks. You´ll have to collect dues on your own. Union reps realized members would then see exactly what they were paying, and BACKED DOWN ON ALL DEMANDS.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 62 - Posted by: Father of Internet, 1/13/2013 6:38:09 PM     (No. 9114697)

Read the article, posters - not the headline. Flower only purchased the bread brands. The dessert cakes still are looking for a new owner.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 63 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 1/13/2013 6:55:24 PM     (No. 9114722)

Next time you have a Whataburger, the buns came from Flowers.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 64 - Posted by: ocjim, 1/13/2013 8:04:00 PM     (No. 9114771)

I hope Tastykakes baker also buys Twinkies item from Hostess. TastyTwinkies! A fine corporate pairing. Used to love me some Tastykakes when waist line permitted. And I know the union-free Twinkies would just taste better. Note to self to break down and buy a pair of those new and improved cream-filled Twinkie sponge treats when available.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 65 - Posted by: Right Republican, 1/13/2013 9:09:31 PM     (No. 9114821)

Here we go again. If one doesn´t tow the hardest of the hard-line conservative positions, one must be a "troll".

So, there´s no room for debate regarding wages? It´s always either/or? Either you go college (and can pay for it), or somehow learn a skilled trade without going to school, and be rich, or you must live in poverty, because wages always perfectly match the value of your work.

The employers will always be fair, the unions were/are always corrupt, those in low paying jobs lack a work ethic and are getting just what they deserve. Humm. I see.

I say that as Republicans we can agree to disagree, that there should be no purity test regarding conservatism, that some litmas test requiring hatred of unionism should never exist, and that this nation can do better than condemn a huge swath of the population to third-world poverty wages for those jobs not requiring a college degree or a skilled trade.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment


Reply 66 - Posted by: larryp, 1/13/2013 10:30:37 PM     (No. 9114887)

In a town near me about 300,000pop,the masterminds at the city council, listened to the Unions and the activists. They wanted a "living wage" for hotel workers.
It wouldbe something like $11.00 per hr with health benefits and 13.00 w/o. so the first hotel confronted this issue. The mgmnt fired the entire staff. The management said that the hotel clerks etc and bosses could vacuum and the number of rooms in the hotel would be closed down.
Then the council showed up and all the lefty congressers and state reps crying the blues.
But this town wants to be a bigshot convention town, expanded airport and brand name 12 story hotels down town.So they are going to close the top few floors to get under the 99 rooms that applies.
Stupid is as stupid does...

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 67 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 1/13/2013 11:39:46 PM     (No. 9114952)

Free markets rule!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 68 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 1/13/2013 11:56:22 PM     (No. 9114964)

When bread here went to $4.00 a loaf, I said that´s it. I studied baking on the internet, got my wife to cough up a few old family recipes and we have had fresh baked bread here at home ever since- now I bake pies and cakes and even cookies- we handed out more than 30 dzn cookies this Xmas and guess what, the neighbors responded with more love- we got batches of all kinds, from home made hot chocolate mix to little cakes and even nut bars- one little girl came over with ribbon wrapped rice Krispy treats she made herself- we´re the hit of the neighborhood now- Hostess and unions can go to H! We have found a rather new (old) way of life here.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 69 - Posted by: msjena, 1/13/2013 11:58:17 PM     (No. 9114966)

Why should the Republicans care about unions? They are never going to get their votes. Unions have outlived their usefulness. Heck, Obamacare requires employers to provide health insurance, doesn´t it? I was a member of a union once. There was an employee that was getting fired. There was no concrete reason. It was probably just a personality thing. He was a dues-paying union member. And you know what the union did? Nothing. So how was he better off than a non-union employee? All that money for nothing. And you know what else? Smart companies pay their employees a fair wage and give benefits so they won´t unionize. I worked for a company like that once, too. As far as I know, their factory is still non-union.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.



Post Reply   Close thread 718785




Below, you will find ...

Most Recent Articles posted by "KarenJ1"

and

Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)




Most Recent Articles posted by "KarenJ1"



Baby philanthropists wooed by Obama:
Administration invites Rockefeller,
Marriott and Hilton heirs to talk
about future of philanthropy
Daily Mail [UK], by Alex Greig    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/19/2014 10:54:26 AM     Post Reply
Some of the country´s richest young people came together at the White House recently for a day-long conference about how exactly they plan to spend their inherited wealth. The invitation-only event sought to engage the young billionaires with the public sector and with each other in order to empower and advance their philanthropic endeavors. The event was organized by Thomas Khalil, a deputy director for technology and innovation in the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy along with Nexus, an organization that aims to encourage philanthropy among the young and rich. Founded by Jonah Wittkamper and

Report: Wendy Davis caught
up in FBI investigation
Daily Caller, by Alex Pappas    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/18/2014 10:44:20 PM     Post Reply
The FBI is probing past legal work done by Texas gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis, according to a report her Republican opponent’s campaign calls a “bombshell.” The Dallas Morning News reported Friday that documents “related to Sen. Wendy Davis’ work as a lawyer for the North Texas Tollway Authority are part of an FBI inquiry of the agency.” The news outlet said it’s unclear how much this investigation revolves around Davis, the Democratic nominee for governor. “It’s not clear whether Davis’ work for the tollway authority is a focus of the FBI or only part of the material collected in connection

Google: the unelected superpower
Telegraph [UK], by Katherine Rushton    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/18/2014 10:36:46 PM     Post Reply
Researchers at Princeton and Northwestern universities have pored over 1,800 US policies and concluded that America is an oligarchy. Instead of looking out for the majority of the country’s citizens, the US government is ruled by the interests of the rich and the powerful, they found. No great surprises there, then. But the government is not the only American power whose motivations need to be rigourously examined. Some 2,400 miles away from Washington, in Silicon Valley, Google is aggressively gaining power with little to keep it in check. It has cosied up to governments around the world so effectively that its chairman,

Dem Rep: Obamacare will bury us
Legal Insurrection, by William A. Jacobson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/18/2014 10:31:00 PM     Post Reply
Steve Lynch is a Democratic Rep. from Massachusetts who doesn’t hesitate to buck the party line from a centrist point of view, and to speak openly about problems in the party and with party positions. Lynch ran for Senate to fill John Kerry’s seat, but lost in the primary to now-Senator Ed Markey. Lynch recently was interviewed by The Boston Herald about upcoming Obamacare problems and how devastating they will be for Democrats. That runs contrary to cut current news cycle Democratic spin that (allegedly) meeting sign up goals means electoral problems related to Obamacare are over. U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch, the

“Hallelujah” Irish priest to headline NY
Town Hall Irish concert May 13 (Videos)
Irish Central [New York], by Kate Hickey    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/18/2014 10:14:05 PM     Post Reply
Father Ray Kelly, the singing Irish priest who shot to fame with his wedding ceremony cover of “Hallelujah,” will perform in New York, on Tuesday May 13, to support the Irish Lobby for Immigration Reform. On April 7 a short video of the 60-year-old priest, from Oldcastle, County Meath, singing at a recent wedding ceremony went live. In just 11 days the touching video has racked up close to 30 million hits on YouTube and his fame now reaches to every corner of the earth. As his video gathered traction online Fr Kelly was a guest on RTE’s “Late Late Show.” He told host Ryan Tubridy that he hoped his new found fame

Documents: Biden and Kerry both
opposed Hillarycare before
they supported Obamacare
Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/18/2014 10:01:25 PM     Post Reply
Then-Sens. Joe Biden and John Kerry were both opposed to Hillary Clinton’s 1993 health-care reform program, according to documents released by the Clinton presidential library. Clinton marked a handwritten “No” beside Biden’s name on Clinton’s list of Capitol Hill lawmakers that she needed to win over for her universal health care law, known as the “Clinton health plan” or “Hillarycare,” to pass. John Kerry, meanwhile, was marked with a “Probably not.” “Hillarycare” ended up dying in the Democratic-controlled Senate in 1994 without coming to a floor vote. As vice president, Biden has been a loyal supporter of the Obama administration’s

The ´soft despotism´ of regulation
imposes high costs on Americans
Washington Examiner, by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/18/2014 9:37:39 PM     Post Reply
Wayne Crews of the Competitive Enterprise Institute and Alexis de Tocqueville, author of the classic Democracy in America, were born in different times and places. But the French aristocrat and American think tanker have the measure of the federal behemoth in the age of Obama. Writing in 1835, Tocqueville eloquently predicted how it would function, while Crews today supplies in his annual compilation of federal rules and regulations, “10,000 Commandments,” the hard numbers that describe the behemoth´s contemporary reach and costs. It is always worthwhile to revisit de Tocqueville’s description of what he called the



Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)



´America´s royal baby´: How Chelsea´s first
child could give Hillary Clinton a boost in
the polls if she runs for president in 2016

42 replie(s)
Daily Mail (U.K.), by Jessica Jerreat    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/19/2014 7:12:10 PM     Post Reply
For Hillary Clinton, having her own baby grandchild to kiss on the campaign trail, could be one of the biggest boosts to her possible presidential election campaign. Although the former Secretary of State and First Lady has not said if she will run in 2016, the arrival of her first grandchild will soften her image, analysts have said. While Chelsea only revealed her pregnancy on Thursday, supporters of her mother have already started cooing over a possible baby in the White House. With the Clintons having a near-royal status in the U.S., the announcement of a new arrival due this fall has sent

Barack Obama and the politics of lies
36 replie(s)
Washington Examiner [DC], by Editorial    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/20/2014 5:45:25 AM     Post Reply
That was quite a victory dance President Obama did Thursday while claiming Obamacare is “working” because eight million people have now supposedly signed up for the health care program. He even indulged in some less-than-subtle mockery of Republicans - and by extension the majority of Americans who have disapproved of Obamacare since before it became law. "The repeal debate is and should be over,” Obama said, taking a dig at Republicans who are “going through, you know, the stages of grief … anger and denial and all that stuff …” But a president who is viewed by most Americans as less

White House asks American parents to
monitor their children for signs of terrorism

33 replie(s)
Daily Caller, by Eric Owens    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/19/2014 5:50:04 PM     Post Reply
In a speech earlier this week, Lisa O. Monaco, President Barack Obama’s assistant for homeland security and counterterrorism, insisted that American parents must be vigilant because their “confrontational” children could be on the verge of becoming terrorists. Monaco’s full, prepared text is available here. She presented the speech, entitled “Countering Violent Extremism and the Power of Community,” at Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government on April 15. Monaco began her remarks by eloquently describing the lives tragically lost last year during the Boston Marathon bombings. Interestingly, the Harvard grad failed to mention the religion or the motive of brothers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

32 replie(s)
New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

30 replie(s)
Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our

Harry Reid calls dissident Nevada ranchers
´domestic terrorists´ following show of
force against the federal government

30 replie(s)
Daily Mail [UK], by David Martosko    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 4/19/2014 9:29:17 AM     Post Reply
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday that a family of dissident ranchers and their supporters in his home state of Nevada are ´domestic terrorists,´ citing this week´s standoff with the federal government´s Bureau of Land Management. Cliven Bundy has refused to pay grazing fees for land where his hundreds of cattle roam every day. The land is owned by the federal government, which says he owes more than $1 million. Bundy, however, insists that since his family has been using the land since the 1870s, Uncle Sam can´t collect the grazing fees. A tense standoff developed this week after

Stop dressing so tacky for church
27 replie(s)
CNN, by John Blake    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 4/20/2014 4:40:56 AM     Post Reply
If the Rev. John DeBonville could preach a sermon to lift the souls of churchgoers across America, his message would be simple: Stop dressing so tacky for church. DeBonville has heard about the “come as you are” approach to dressing down for Sunday service, but he says the Sabbath is getting too sloppy. When he scans the pews of churches, DeBonville sees rows of people dressed in their Sunday worst. They saunter into church in baggy shorts, flip-flop sandals, tennis shoes and grubby T-shirts. Some even slide into the pews carrying coffee in plastic foam containers as if they’re going to Starbucks. “It’s like


Post Reply   Close thread 718785





Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google


© 2014 Lucianne.com Media Inc.

~~~c~~~