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In campaign for tougher
gun laws, Obama and allies
work to tilt public opinion

Washington Post, by Philip Rucker

Original Article

Posted By:Dreadnought, 1/9/2013 10:47:49 PM

The White House is working with its allies on a well-financed campaign in Washington and around the country to shift public opinion toward stricter gun laws and provide political cover to lawmakers who end up voting for an assault-weapons ban or other firearm restrictions. With President Obama preparing to push a legislative agenda aimed at curbing the nation’s gun violence, pillars of his political network, along with independent groups, are raising millions of dollars and mapping out strategies in an attempt to shepherd new regulations through Congress.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 1/9/2013 10:54:55 PM     (No. 9108144)

Well, Mr. President, even the dimmest lefty bulbs that voted for you can feel the change in the attitudes of Americans over the last several years. The only way you will sway a majority is with money and/or trinkets. It will work. It always does with the kind of folks that vote for you. First you give them stuff and then you scare them that some bad Republican is going to take them away.


Reply 2 - Posted by: RPool, 1/9/2013 10:57:55 PM     (No. 9108147)

Can´t speak for any other area of the country, but any legislator from Texas that buys into this campaign in terms of a vote against Second Amendment rights will be enjoying their farewell tour in Congress. No one - repeat - no one I know will allow the government to confiscate their guns. Vote all you want and see what will happen. Executive fiat will receive the same response from the populace. This is very dangerous ground, I feel, and Obama´s hubris is blinding him from what he will sow.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: jl80863, 1/9/2013 11:04:37 PM     (No. 9108152)

While the obama ministry of propaganda is getting cranked up Americans have reacted.
I just read that there are a million AR15 magazines on backorder. One million magazines for one type of firearm. When was the last time you have heard of one million of anything on backorder. Molon labe.


Reply 4 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 1/9/2013 11:13:39 PM     (No. 9108164)

Does anyone speak greek? How is molon labe pronounced?


Reply 5 - Posted by: FormerDem, 1/9/2013 11:19:10 PM     (No. 9108168)

Well it´s not working. It´s just polarizing the country further.


Reply 6 - Posted by: texaspast, 1/10/2013 12:15:45 AM     (No. 9108207)

I just asked my wife, basically, if it was permissible with her that her old man (well, kinda old) were to give his life for what he believes in. She said ´yeah, sure´ - (aside: she´s a lot better looking than I am, and I have some pretty good insurance). I am willing to die for what I believe. I have a feeling that I´m not the only one. Rick Perry, it is your time to choose: do you do the right (but really dangerous) thing, or waffle? You wanted the job, with it come the sometimes very, very hard choices.


Reply 7 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/10/2013 12:25:39 AM     (No. 9108211)

Our Bill of Rights is nonnegotiable.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: osprey21, 1/10/2013 3:24:21 AM     (No. 9108255)

0bama is Xerxes, and THIS is my Thermopylae.

Come and Take Them!


Reply 9 - Posted by: Trigger2, 1/10/2013 4:30:57 AM     (No. 9108278)

The Japanese didn´t invade the U.S. during WW II because they properly knew there was a gun behind every blade of grass. Barry wants all those guns removed so his favorite people can invade us unimpeded.


Reply 10 - Posted by: clayusmcret, 1/10/2013 5:57:47 AM     (No. 9108310)

The media has diligently attempted to assist in the public opinion battle. However, based on the number of guns, ammo and magazines already purchased during his administration, and especially since November, the lines are pretty well drawn. Oh, there will always be the few in the middle who don´t actually believe obama would be so bold as to take the unconstitutional route his pogues have been suggesting he´d do, but the campaign is over. All´s left to do is watch the results unfold.


Reply 11 - Posted by: Crosscut, 1/10/2013 6:54:00 AM     (No. 9108377)

Any smart Democrat politician will run away from this issue as fast as they can, otherwise it will be a career ender. The storm of protest that will come down on Democrats across the nation and Washington, D.C. will be humongous.


Reply 12 - Posted by: sagman, 1/10/2013 6:55:04 AM     (No. 9108380)

Joe Biden Addresses the Nation

Hey, howya doin’, folks.

Yeah, I know what you’re thinkin’: what’s ole Joe doin’ in the Oval Office? I’ll tell ya. The Boss doesn’t want his fingerprints on this one. He said to me, ´´Joe, I need you to lay down the law. I can’t do it because, aside from deciding who to kill with drones, I have a problem makin’ big decisions.

Use the Oval Office. Sit in my chair. Maybe some day it´ll be your chair. I don’t even want to know what you’re proposing. Surprise me.´´

So, here I am with my recommendation. That’s right, I said ´´recommendation.´´ No 2000 page report. with subsections. It’s on this one sheet of paper I’m holding up. On the sheet, one sentence.

Let’s see, it’s 84 now. The country can have a national debate about this until midnight. That’s when the Chief’s gonna sign the order From Air Force One with his autopen. Says nobody can actually prove he signed it if the whole thing goes kablooie in our faces.

Here’s the deal, and I quote: ´´If it fires a projectile, any projectile, it’s banned.´´
That clear enough for ya? No handguns, no rifles, no bazookas, no crossbows, no nerf guns, no slingshots, no water pistols. No exceptions.

Whatever you got now that fouls afall of the order—uh, falls afoul of the order--you pile it on the curb in front of your house and the president’s new Civilian National Security Corpse will pick it up.

And don´t even think about appealing to the Supremes. The Court’s suspended and the Justices are under house arrest until a conservative dies.

Now, if you´re listenin,´´ Piers, press your hand to the screen and gimme five.

God bless America.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: Judge, 1/10/2013 7:16:45 AM     (No. 9108414)

Hollyweird is far more responsible for gun violence then the NRA will ever be. Does ANYONE notice the violence in movies now-a-days?


Reply 14 - Posted by: Kennerboy, 1/10/2013 7:23:35 AM     (No. 9108423)

This from the same administration that ships automatic weapons into Mexico??


Reply 15 - Posted by: Midnight Rambler, 1/10/2013 7:45:33 AM     (No. 9108449)

What the public wants or thinks does not matter to Obama. Only Obama matters to Obama. See the healthcare law as the prime example.


Reply 16 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 1/10/2013 8:20:20 AM     (No. 9108489)

Obama is waiting until midnight Friday to set an Executive Order. Like he has many times before. We don´t have a president; we have a Caesar.


Reply 17 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 1/10/2013 8:25:05 AM     (No. 9108494)

Cuomo says "No one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer."

I will be hunting traitors, not deer. And some of them will have high-capacity magazines, and body armor, and a "warrant" from a tyrant. (Hopefully decades in the future, but possibly next week.)


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: rabbit, 1/10/2013 8:26:42 AM     (No. 9108498)

There is nothing magic about the gun laws as they are written today. I´m not talking about the Second Amendment; everyone knows there are gun laws on the books today in addition to the Second Amendment. The question is: are there any adjustments to today´s laws that could make people safer, make it harder for psychotic individuals to get weapons?

If there are, then the NRA and its supporters should be offering suggestions. If there are not, then the NRA should be explaining why the myriad of gun laws of today - which do vary state to state - are sacrosanct. I do believe, though, that this attitude of "No, no, no, I won´t make suggestions and I won´t negotiate," sounds like the kid who says, "If you won´t play the football game by my rules, then I´m taking my football and going home. So there!"

I am a Republican. I am a conservative. I worry about how easy it is for people in a psychotic state to get guns. I know that people with severe mental illness cannot even get their names put on ´no sell lists´ voluntarily. Don´t fool yourself that this is a liberal, Obama-lover issue. The issue is much bigger than that.


Reply 19 - Posted by: tank, 1/10/2013 8:36:11 AM     (No. 9108512)

I said it the other day, and I´ll say it again. What´s #18´s ´´solution?´´ You keep demanding that we give ground to the gun grabbers, to show our good faith. History shows that´s been tried. There have been more onerous laws on the books, federal, state and local. Many of these laws have been struck down as uncontitutional. During this time, homicides, violent crime, and gun deaths have fallen.

I´m perfectly happy with the laws on the books regarding guns. What´s your proposal?


Reply 20 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/10/2013 8:36:43 AM     (No. 9108513)

What industries saturate kids and young people, a small percentage of who are dangerous mentally ill people, with continuous multimedia presentations of extremely violent content that they would never experience in real life in their home towns?

It is squarely the Hollywood movie, the television, and the video game industries who are making billions of dollars off violence and who are all liberal Democrat constituency groups.

The American small arms industry, the NRA, and the hundred million law abiding Americans who own firearms do not do that.


Reply 21 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 1/10/2013 8:38:20 AM     (No. 9108514)

In the spirit of last year´s ChickFilet day...

http://gunappreciationday.com/

Don´t be fooled by high sounding rhetoric coming from the left. The prime directive for most members of congress is to keep his/her job. And they WILL pay attention when the response is loud enough. Contact your congressman.


Reply 22 - Posted by: ann_n_GA, 1/10/2013 8:54:57 AM     (No. 9108545)

This older white female not only purchased a .38 since Zippy´s first term, I joined the NRA this week to try to lend more support.

I sadly and truly do not believe there is a Republican or Democrat in DC that will do the right thing, anymore. Decisions are made only to make or build their wealth or to keep them in office. And we all know the MSM is a Rat org.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: Quiet Observer, 1/10/2013 9:05:43 AM     (No. 9108570)

It´s not the first time that Zippy has used a drummed-up "crisis" in an attempt to circumvent that pesky old Constitution that he has sworn to uphold.


Reply 24 - Posted by: Pockets64, 1/10/2013 9:09:57 AM     (No. 9108581)

He didn´t worry about the Constitution, public opinion, or anything else when they forced through Obamacare.

Find good hiding places for your firearms.


Reply 25 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 1/10/2013 9:10:01 AM     (No. 9108582)

Drudge had a link yesterday to something that talked about the fact that buried in the Obamacare bill is a restriction forbidding gun registration. So unless he hasn´t read his own bill, how does he think he can break his own law? #18 really needs to read what was printed in Pravda and take it to heart. And I do not believe you are conservative in anything at all.


Reply 26 - Posted by: Susieq1, 1/10/2013 9:21:27 AM     (No. 9108600)

Sow the wind you reap the whirlwind.

Said it before and I will say it again, what type of mind altering drugs were these shooters taking?


Reply 27 - Posted by: LZK, 1/10/2013 9:28:03 AM     (No. 9108612)

IF and I say "IF" the Washington DC elite lefties think that this is a winning score for them -- they are mistaken....

The RIGHT to bear arms is endorsed by even the demorats here in Chicago....

LZK


Reply 28 - Posted by: rplat, 1/10/2013 9:29:46 AM     (No. 9108615)

Unfortunately, a slight breeze will tilt the sheep and parasites that support this guy.


Reply 29 - Posted by: starsNstripes, 1/10/2013 9:33:22 AM     (No. 9108623)

#25 I believe Obamacare restricts doctors from registering your answers to their gun related questions when you are being examined, etc. They are allowed to ask about whether you own a gun or not, but supposedly they are not allowed to write your answer down. ...yeah right...


Reply 30 - Posted by: gwmcclintok, 1/10/2013 9:48:03 AM     (No. 9108655)

The reason the terrorists use bombs...they don´t have guns. If we give up our guns, it will be bomb time. Suicide bombers. The Sandy Hook massacre was a terrorist act. He kills many, then kills himself. Same scheme, different weapon. Now Washington wants us to give in to this terrorist attack and add gun laws.
It is surrender. Terrorist act and Washington surrenders. Plain and simple. And I am sick of these yankee politicians.
I am not your docile servant Washington. I am not Obama´s boy.
As Yosemite Sam says: ´You´ll eating lead´ if you come on my property with some anti-constitutional law to take my guns. And I mean guns.


Reply 31 - Posted by: jimmiet, 1/10/2013 10:11:06 AM     (No. 9108715)

There are two reasons America has enjoyed the freedoms and prosperity it has. God and Guns. Our trusted government has tried to restrict both and we are reaping the whirlwind. However there are several million Americans willing to die before we give up our guns. The Christians and Jews in Germany thought that their government would stop waay before it did. We can´t afford to take that chance.


Reply 32 - Posted by: Butch59, 1/10/2013 10:12:06 AM     (No. 9108721)

If Obozo attempts to circumvent the 2nd Amendment by executive order (which is, IMHO, illegal) that just might be the tipping point that will start the next revolution or civil war. Call it what you want. After all, I´ve been saying for some time now that this country needs a complete house cleaning, from top to bottom. Get rid of EVERYONE in DC and start from scratch. Of course, there will have to be some changes made, but that can be handled. If was once about 225yrs ago. We can do it again.


Reply 33 - Posted by: Browneyes, 1/10/2013 10:23:18 AM     (No. 9108751)

All the Cables are spending their time talking about "GUNS" and keeping it front and centre.

Well,what they are really doing is high-lighting just how this administration is manipulating them and "prepping" them as to how they can assist in dismantling the US Constitution. Get rid of the 2nd. ammendment and then have them convince the voters the 14th DOES permit Zippy to raise the debt limit and then, well, we better appoint a commission to re-write the damn thing!


Reply 34 - Posted by: dman, 1/10/2013 10:35:00 AM     (No. 9108800)

The hypocrisy of the libs is unlimited. Contrast their arguments to infringe on the right to bear arms with their arguments to allow pornography and offensive "art", lest it infringe freedom of speech. More recently and to the point, contrast their push for more firearms registration, databases, and background checks with their howls over voter ID laws that, in their opinion, would suppress the "right" to vote. Perhaps conservatives should link voter ID with gun registration to expose this hypocrisy.

National ID: the arguments for it will not go away.


Reply 35 - Posted by: Grambo, 1/10/2013 10:37:47 AM     (No. 9108809)

Molon labe.

Obama has gone a bridge too far.


Reply 36 - Posted by: TakeBackAmerica, 1/10/2013 10:46:13 AM     (No. 9108845)

Zippy never stops running for office. He´s doing this stunt because it worked for him twice before.


Reply 37 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 1/10/2013 10:52:51 AM     (No. 9108867)

No more Wacos; ever...


Reply 38 - Posted by: RancherJack, 1/10/2013 11:00:01 AM     (No. 9108888)

You need to live where the local sheriff has told Obama to go **** himself


Reply 39 - Posted by: geoman, 1/10/2013 11:03:09 AM     (No. 9108892)

Re: #18 the repetitive single-issue gun law supporter ostensibly concerned with the mentally unstable having access to guns. The issue has blown past the mentally unstable and goes to whether progressive politicians can nullify the foundational provision in our Constitutions Bill of Rights. Bedrock conservatives and Americans are being told by progressive politicians and a compliant media that they must give up the right to self defense. This is not about the NRA; it is about individual citizens. Gun control as it is being pedaled is more of a threat to the existence of our republic than was the Cuban Missile Crisis. If the progressives don´t stop pedaling, there will be war. Throwing the red herring of the mentally unstable in the face of a free people who know and understand that the very underpinnings of freedom are at risk is a fools errand. The public debate has turned such that outright confiscation of currently legal firearms is being openly advocated by elected officials. Those who pretend that "adjustments to make people safer" are reasonable are nothing but agents of tyranny.


Reply 40 - Posted by: Udanja99, 1/10/2013 12:36:10 PM     (No. 9109113)

Thank you #40.


Reply 41 - Posted by: Udanja99, 1/10/2013 12:38:49 PM     (No. 9109116)

BTW, public opinion has already tilted - that´s why gun and ammo sales are through the roof and out into the stratosphere and the NRA has 100,000 new members.


Reply 42 - Posted by: flatwater, 1/10/2013 3:37:13 PM     (No. 9109458)

"In campaign for tougher gun laws, Obama armed Mexican drug cartels, resulting in hundreds of murders"

Fixed the headline for you.

Why isn´t the GOP bringing up the 300+ murders that are a direct result of Barack Obama selling guns to the world´s most violent drug gangs?

Obama doesn´t want to talk about "Operation Fast & Furious." He´s so scared of the subject that he´s hiding behind executive privilege.

The MFM doesn´t want to talk about "Fast & Furious." So far, the only networks to offer any serious reporting on the subject are FOX News and CBS. The media won´t talk about Fast & Furious because they know the subject harms their Lord and Savior, Barack Hussein Obama....

So, why not FORCE "Fast & Furious" into the national conversation?

Why not FORCE the media to bring Obama´s Mexican gun-running into the picture?

Why not take the opportunity not just to question the (p)Resident, but to question the questioners in our corrupt media?

Barack Obama has much to answer for in "Operation Fast & Furious." So do the network representatives at ABC, NBC, PMSNBC, CNN, PBS and NPR!


Reply 43 - Posted by: 4Justice, 1/10/2013 4:13:33 PM     (No. 9109511)

Beautiful #40!

By the way, every single gun control law on the books today is unconstitutional! The 2nd Amendment is clearly written. There is absolutely NO reason we should have ever allowed any law to be created that infringes upon this right. The gun "laws" are ILLEGAL. And don´t tell me that our Founders could never have invisioned the kinds of weapons we have today or how society has changed. Our Founders were much more intelligent and visionary than any of us today--not only because they were guided by God, but also because of the timing. They didn´t live in a world of distraction, fast-paced society, mass media and all other sorts of sensory garbage. And I truly believe that not only was this country created by Providence but our Founders were brought together by God to create a unique beacon of light in a long dark world. They were a true godsend & a testament to the good that mankind CAN do when guided by good. ("good" is derived from the word "God" by the way, for those who didn´t know)


Reply 44 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/10/2013 4:25:21 PM     (No. 9109528)

#44. At the time our Founders wrote the Second Amendment, the People had the exact same arms the Army had.


Reply 45 - Posted by: lana720, 1/10/2013 5:11:30 PM     (No. 9109592)

Thank you, #21 for the link and #40 for the excellent post.

January 19th, we have our St. Barbara´s Dinner - she is the patron saint for the US Army´s Field Artillery.
Dear St. Barbara, we ask your intercession for our protection from our government which before this represented us. Increase our vigilance and keep us strong. Amen.


Reply 46 - Posted by: loveUSA, 1/10/2013 5:24:43 PM     (No. 9109602)

Mr. President, what about your role in Fast and Furious? Why were you selling guns if you are so against them?


Reply 47 - Posted by: artiec, 1/10/2013 7:19:21 PM     (No. 9109764)

Translation: expect a flood of anti gun propaganda from the White House and the media Orcs. And by that i include the anti second amendment Washington Compost.


Reply 48 - Posted by: Crosscut, 1/10/2013 8:33:19 PM     (No. 9109884)

Democrats are committing political suicide if they don´t drop this.


Reply 49 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 1/10/2013 8:42:25 PM     (No. 9109900)

Isolate Obie and destroy the msm, then we can discuss self-defense and its importance.



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If Your Doctor Asks You About
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Fox News, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 5/20/2013 1:12:07 PM     Post Reply
Stuart Varney said this morning on "Varney & Co." that one of his producers was given a questionnaire with some surprisingly intrusive questions on it when he switched doctors. One of the questions was whether he/she was concerned about unsecured weapons in the home. Another asked whether he/she was "in a relationship in which you have been physically hurt or are you afraid of your partner?" Judge Andrew Napolitano explained that the question about guns comes out of a post-Sandy Hook executive order by President Obama, but it will be required under Obamacare. Varney expressed amazement

Democratic Senator uses Okla.
tornado for anti-GOP rant
over global warming

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Daily Caller, by Jeff Poor    Original Article
Posted By: bamapreacher- 5/20/2013 8:20:54 PM     Post Reply
While many Americans were tuned into news coverage of the massive damage from tornadoes ravaging the state of Oklahoma, Rhode Island Democratic Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse took to the Senate floor to rail against his Republican colleagues for denying the theory of anthropogenic global warming. Whitehouse spent 15 minutes chastising GOP senators and justified his remarks by alluding to states that seek federal assistance in the wake of natural disasters. “So, you may have a question for me,” Whitehouse said. “Why do you care? Why do you, Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode Island, care


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