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After the Fall: What Do You Do
When You Conclude America Is
(Temporarily or Permanently) Kaput?

PJ Media, by Barry Rubin

Original Article

Posted By:earlybird, 1/8/2013 6:37:24 PM

If we reach the following highly unpleasant conclusion, what are the implications? The United States has taken a political turn which, at least for the next four years, will guarantee that it does not play the role of a great power mindful of and willing to protect its own true interests, to support its allies, and to combat its real foes. On the contrary, through inaction or active effort the leadership of America will take counterproductive actions that achieve the opposite result. And there are certain factors — radical ideological hegemony, a weak economy

Comments:
No longer the world leader?

A very thought-provoking article - Rubin takes up how this (he calls it "involuntary, not inevitable") decline in the United States will affect those at-risk parts of the world - Israel, Sub-Saharan Africa, the Middle East, East Asia, South America, the Afghans who opposed the Taliban, etc. - that have looked to the United States for support and even protection. Who will be there for them? Putin?

Sorry, but drive-by Replies will look ridiculous here...

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 1/8/2013 6:49:00 PM     (No. 9105884)

As a vacuum is created, there will be another force ready to take over and fill the gap. And it will never be something better. You´ll have to pay something to that force. Start prepping now.


Reply 2 - Posted by: Grambo, 1/8/2013 6:52:48 PM     (No. 9105888)

When someone campaigns with the promise to “fundamentally transform America”, believe them.

For those who thought that America was fundamentally flawed, that promise was appealing, and they voted accordingly.

For those who thought that America was the shining city on the hill, it was unsettling. It appears that their fears were justified.

The Founding Fathers’ vision of the country was better than the Community Organizer’s vision.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: bamapreacher, 1/8/2013 7:01:56 PM     (No. 9105898)

I can see why China and India aren´t considered to be world leaders with the potential to succeed the United States. They won´t have the interests of anybody but themselves in mind and won´t care what happens in and/or to other countries, though they would have the power to intervene if they so desired. So, when the U.S. is no more there won´t be any country that will come to the rescue of any other country.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Theeo, 1/8/2013 7:06:19 PM     (No. 9105904)

"As our forefathers took America from the grasp of the English Monarch, our 2nd Amendment gives us the wherewithal to destroy the bondage imposed by the Vile Ginger PuppetPresident."


Reply 5 - Posted by: Grambo, 1/8/2013 7:10:45 PM     (No. 9105908)

Pardon a second post, so as to postulate a thought re, #3.

America has spent blood and treasure around the globe for freedom. Perhaps (as with the war on poverty and the war on drugs) China and India and others are right, that it doesn’t make a difference, or at least, a difference worth the cost.

Just a thought.


Reply 6 - Posted by: JoniTx, 1/8/2013 7:13:11 PM     (No. 9105912)

Should be a Must Read. This last sentence says it all:

~~Here, however, is the main point I wish to communicate: Americans can debate whether this shorter-term vacuum of responsibility and longer-term decline is happening, but much of the world already takes this outcome for granted.~~


Reply 7 - Posted by: smsnod, 1/8/2013 7:28:12 PM     (No. 9105924)

I always thought it was curious & interesting in Revelations how when describing the wars, there is nothing referring to the west. There´s Persia, Gog, Magog, & Israel. Now, with this administration it is clear there will be no support of Israel. Now I understand.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: horacer, 1/8/2013 7:48:01 PM     (No. 9105938)

If we continue down the current path much longer we´ll come to think of the Brotherhood as moderates. The real danger is North Africa and Syria. From Tunisia to the Sinai, south to Mali to Nigeria, Niger and the CAR the region is turning into a giant terror state. There are bedouin terror elements in the Sinai that outgun the Egyptian army and they´re on Israels doorstep. Without the US to provide some sense of stability the region could explode. The consequences will turn up as suicide bombers at your favorite mall or maybe a dirty bomb at the airport.


Reply 9 - Posted by: banal_resentive, 1/8/2013 8:06:18 PM     (No. 9105956)

I think we tell everyone we´re pulling back for a while to recover - after all, we don´t/won´t have a choice much longer. For our embattled friends, we can sell them a lot of surplus gear for cheap that we´ll not be able to afford to deploy any longer. Then ( assuming we instead don´t keep digging our hole deeper), we get our house in order. Then we can afford to be a/the world power again.


Reply 10 - Posted by: mackrand, 1/8/2013 8:57:55 PM     (No. 9106026)

Yes, it´s happening all around us. I believe that it is entirely possible that there will be an outbreak of regional wars. This actually has already happened over the last ten years. More than half the world has been involved in one form or another on one side or another. For it to escalate would seem from my point of view to be likely based on the catastrophic economic state the world finds itself in. The World Wars were started for this very reason. Conditions were economically disastrous nearly everywhere and most of those conditions were in place because the Economic Movers and Shakers, businessmen nearly everywhere, were derided and castigated nearly universally.

I´m puzzled as to who is the real enemy that we would fight? On the local scene, who is it that we fight to put it all right? On the national scene who is it that we fight to get control over all the reckless spending that is putting us as a nation in the poorhouse? Who do we force to stop the uncontrolled and escalating taxation that is impoverishing us all? What do we do to stop the economic badmouth? Who on a world wide basis is going to step up and start the healing process? Is it a country or a belief system that will be the leader? Will it be finally Pax Americana that starts the recovery from the ashes of fundamental reform when none was needed in the first place?

I just wonder who it is we will aim at.


Reply 11 - Posted by: reilly, 1/8/2013 9:03:14 PM     (No. 9106030)


But we elected the clean black dude. Aren´t we special!


Reply 12 - Posted by: philemon1967, 1/8/2013 9:17:25 PM     (No. 9106045)

When Obama started office, I predicted he would be an incompetent leader that would get a lot of good people killed unless he was willing to learn on the job and change. It appears now that he is too ideologically rooted and arrogant to consider learning from those more competent than him. The guy knows only how to mock his predecessor and productive people but he can´t do the job of the presidency.

Clint Eastwood was right about Obama but corrupt voters got bribed into voting for an incompetent lying politician. They are about to find the true costs of their misguided votes in terms of American blood and treasure especially around the world when, not if, the Middle East gets into a thermonuclear war.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: steveW, 1/9/2013 8:08:12 AM     (No. 9106532)

This, I believe, gets to the heart of the Left´s real agenda in getting a man like Obama stationed in the White House - the very intentional decline of US power in a world of nuclear arms and terrorist WMD threats. You do the math..


Reply 14 - Posted by: Felixcat, 1/9/2013 8:08:50 AM     (No. 9106534)

It is kind of ironic that the son of a British citizen of Kenya has done nothing for Africa. Well, Michelle did visit Nelson Mandela a couple of years ago....

And it is also ironic that all these "one world" types, etc are the first ones to attack US foreign policy in which we are actively engaged with other countries; either to liberate (Iraq), but then complain when we don´t invade Sudan or say nothing about the US led air war on Libya last year.


Reply 15 - Posted by: Judith, 1/9/2013 8:15:40 AM     (No. 9106551)

I was having lunch at a panera here in MA, yesterday. I was listening to two young women talk. One was telling the other that she had a friend who had voted for obama and now was upset that things were not going well. The young woman told her friend that she had warned her and what else could she expect from this potus? More or less a "I told you so". The other young woman said she was going through the same thing with her friends. As we watch our children mature and have real life experiences, hopefully they will learn the lesson and grow up to never elect anyone like obama again. And our country has been down and out before, check your history books. We have struggled and come back. I´ll still bet my money on this country even while it is breaking my heart.


Reply 16 - Posted by: M2, 1/9/2013 8:19:17 AM     (No. 9106557)

While it would be hard to argue with Rubin´s assessment of the international effects of having Barack Obama & Co. as our POTUS for another 4 years, one thing was not addressed: What happens within America´s borders during this time? What is being planned to take America down the drain via socialism or worse, totalitarianism?

We know only what we see happening here in America. What we don´t know is what may kill us as a free nation.

Were I Rubin, I´d write another well-reasoned article about what will happen to Obama´s America within the time he is permitted to reign with the iron fist he wields right now.


Reply 17 - Posted by: M2, 1/9/2013 8:21:39 AM     (No. 9106561)

#7, there is no "s" on the end of "Revelation", a common mistake.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: Adam, 1/9/2013 8:54:49 AM     (No. 9106629)

The thing to understand is, this is what Obama WANTED He doesn´t believe in American exceptionalism as Truman did or even as LBJ (a terrible President) did. Even Clinton, though he didn´t really care about American exceptionalism, wasn´t hostile to it.) But Obama and many millions of others in control of the unions, the academy, entertainment, religion and other important institutions do NOT believe in it and have for at least two generations were actively working against it. It appears they have won.


Reply 19 - Posted by: Udanja99, 1/9/2013 8:58:19 AM     (No. 9106637)

The day after the election in 2008, I wrote to a Canadian friend that she should also be worried about Owebama. I told her that he was out to take America down and that, if America went down, the rest of the world would follow. She thought I was being arrogant. I think I´ll send her this article.


Reply 20 - Posted by: 4freedom, 1/9/2013 9:03:53 AM     (No. 9106647)

Here´s something to consider as well, Bummer wants to seriously cut our nuclear arsenal perhaps as low as 300, I can imagine that he will eventually cut those too claiming he expects the rest of the world to follow suit, can you say suicide?


Reply 21 - Posted by: dotty, 1/9/2013 9:08:48 AM     (No. 9106659)

From the foundations of The New World Order, America´s middle class was to be folded into the poor through tactics such as "Earned income Credit", open borders, and various unsustainable subsidies the middle class is supposed to maintain. This is bi-partisan and the only difference was that the right was using warfare and the left was using welfare. This installs a corporate/banking oligarchy that Prescott Bush supported during WWII. It ain´t just Obama.


Reply 22 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 1/9/2013 9:12:30 AM     (No. 9106668)

Some good deal of my pride in America has been reinvested into pride in being a Texan.
(recovering Californian)

Traditional America still exists in a few places.

Vote with your feet.

I did.

Side note: Reading ´Why Nations Fail´ at the moment. Five Star Good .....so far.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: Holeymoses, 1/9/2013 9:18:37 AM     (No. 9106678)

"Our allies have no reasonable protector?" Neither do we, the American citizens, Mr. Rubin. Global concern will be secondary to what is happening internally in our country, though it is all inexorably linked.


Reply 24 - Posted by: maryc, 1/9/2013 9:22:33 AM     (No. 9106686)

obama is merely a means to an end. I mean litterally the end. As long as we have a government in place that can use the tax system to buy votes that allow one segment of the population to take from the productive segment and reward those who gain power from implementing the taxes then we are at an end of freedom already. Unless there is a federal government willing to spend its responsible citizenry into bankruptcy then the end is upon us. I don´t see any change even if all the takers figured out that eventually there will be nothing left. I pray a great deal.


Reply 25 - Posted by: maryc, 1/9/2013 9:25:50 AM     (No. 9106692)

sorry, meant to say as long as not unless.


Reply 26 - Posted by: yuban, 1/9/2013 10:01:38 AM     (No. 9106751)

Bottom line, do whatever you can to put yourself in a position that avoids as much Government as possible. You cannot defeat Government. We live in California and have always voted Conservative. We even got "involved" with phone calls etc. When we realized voting is not the answer (for Calif) we moved to a California County that is 75% Conservative. We live in a town that is unincorporated, meaning few laws and regulations. Everyone owns guns and know how to use them. The school board is Conservative. The sheriff is Conservative. On and on. We are at piece with this great country and live the good life. It is all about choices. We chose less money, less dependent on Government yet more freedom and more control of our own lives. We will continue to vote Conservative but we no longer let politics rule our life.


Reply 27 - Posted by: coldborezero, 1/9/2013 10:18:38 AM     (No. 9106787)

I agree with #22. I am a Texan first. Should Texas choose to leave the union, I will stand with Texas. It is MY country. Other free states are welcome to come along. The federal government can go to hell. Enough!


Reply 28 - Posted by: KarenJ1, 1/9/2013 10:35:57 AM     (No. 9106825)

This is so disconcerting. I am reading Killing Kennedy now and it is shocking when you read how concerned we were about Communism and now there are Communists running Washington. I just don´t know how we recover from the damage 0bama and his terroristic regime has caused and will cause in the next four years.


Reply 29 - Posted by: nevernaught, 1/9/2013 10:54:15 AM     (No. 9106864)

Then you Kaput the Kaputers. Problem solved.


Reply 30 - Posted by: gone2pot, 1/9/2013 11:29:17 AM     (No. 9106916)

So what do those outside the United States do to face this situation? (Please note that I am speaking here only of U.S. foreign policy and just remarking on the domestic situation.)

Please read another excellent article that details the economic situation we are in. It is in Rolling Stone no less (Drudge-ified by Truth Alliance) and a very long read but extremely eye opening and jaw dropping. As some know, I have been referring to these kinds of things since the summer of 2007 just before the sub-prime meltdown (remember the Subprime Primer? I posted that url way back then). However, this recent article gives a brilliantly clear picture of how and why we will not and cannot climb out or pack up and parallels via the economy After The Fall; http://truthalliance.net/Archive/News/tabid/67/ID/10202/Secrets-and-Lies-of-the-Bailout.aspx. Our current economy wrt our currency is NOT backed by full faith and credit of the USA. It is backed now ONLY by belief in what is NOT true and what does not exist.


Reply 31 - Posted by: chicodon, 1/9/2013 12:13:52 PM     (No. 9107030)

Unfortunately our decline began long ago. Most elections used to be won or loss based on platforms like jobs, foreign policy and budgets. People who followed those issues voted. Many of today’s electorate used to not vote because they didn’t understand the issues. The Democrats, however, have learned how to run a masterful campaign of deceit to get them out. This year they even added early voting shenanigans like recruiting rest home residents. Romney ran a classic issues based campaign and lost. He lost to people who didn’t have a clue about what he was talking about. Minorities came out in droves to vote against the white guy who would put them back in chains. Young women voted against the zealot who would return them to forced motherhood. You can go down the list of groups that Democrats exploited with their outrageous lies. Given the current state of affairs, I’m not optimistic.


Reply 32 - Posted by: wws, 1/9/2013 12:21:29 PM     (No. 9107053)

"I just wonder who it is we will aim at."

We have met the enemy, and He is Us.


Reply 33 - Posted by: Amicus Veritatis, 1/9/2013 12:29:18 PM     (No. 9107066)

Seems that the rest of the world already knows what the movie 2016 Obama´s America so well pointed out. Some others will step up and succeed regardless. At least until that nation also demonizes freedoms, responsibilty, self respect and self reliance. We are in a bad way.


Reply 34 - Posted by: OdinsAcolyte, 1/9/2013 12:54:13 PM     (No. 9107133)

What do you do? Carry on. I didn´t know it was a contest. All things must pass. Freedom is the thing to concern one.


Reply 35 - Posted by: lencu255, 1/9/2013 1:03:26 PM     (No. 9107160)

Don´t blame me for what is happening, #32.
I am asking conservatives to demand the creation of conservative mainstream media, but hear no answers.
Yesterday Mark Levin (After the elections I can stand talk radio for 5 min/week) said that we need to fight, talk with our kids and grandkids, find conservative candidate, support it, blah, blah, blah...
What a lame talk! I don´t blame him either, but he is talking for millions of dollars (kudos to him, he found his niche!). And I don´t hear him exposing Roves and Preibuses for who they are. We gave them our money and our time, our volunteering and they completely screwed it up.
I am saying for several years, we need conservative mainstream media - lefties, fascists and commies, know that, that is the way hitler, lenin/stalin, chavez and obozo won the power. But our repubics are totally oblivious of this concept. Rush is sitting on his couple hundred million contract and he never said a word about it! Why? Am I wrong about it? Where is the place we can discuss conservative candidates, our public figures, what they do right or wrong? How is it possible that we learn about it from a "friendly" nyt or wapo or alphabets? Or from rumors? Not in open discussion! Lenin was writing newspaper articles on internal communist party issues in COMMUNIST newspapers. Not in nyt, not in wapo. But we, conservatives in America, see how repubics´s dirty laundry is exposed in lefties mainstream media! Of course, with complete objectivity


Reply 36 - Posted by: Butch59, 1/9/2013 1:05:43 PM     (No. 9107166)

As I have been posting for some time now, the only fix I can see for what´s happening in our country is to rise up and have us a nice little revolution. And by that, I mean to completely get rid of everyone in Washington and start completely over. We have a good base to start from, our current Constitution. It just needs to have a few tweaks made to it in order to prevent what has happened. After all, didn´t Thomas Jefferson write in the Declaration that it is the right and duty for men to rise up and throw off a tyrannical government? And it´s clear as it can be that we have a tyrannical government right now.

All it would take is enough citizens to rise up, call for the formation of a militia, and do it. The question is, do we have those citizens among us? I don´t have the resources to do it, but at age 68, I´m ready to sign up and do my part.


Reply 37 - Posted by: Penney, 1/9/2013 1:30:47 PM     (No. 9107223)

Determine to support the tried-and-true authentic foundational principles which support Life, Liberty and Justice for all. ´´Just say NO!´´ to all the illusionary theatrical counterfeits who are muscling their thuggish way into the political/media arena right now. Pray for discernment in order to not to be deceived by their bogus promises, conjured up in stealth in order to snatch away the personal freedom of each individual American citizen through all sorts of political/media trickery. View the current pop media and the lefty/lib statist pols as one & the same because at the moment they apparently are. Both apparently irrationally despise Old Glory and the blessings of Liberty for which it stands.

...And read Mark Levin´s best sellers, ´´Liberty and Tyranny,´´ and, ´´Ameritopia,´´ ...ASAP!


Reply 38 - Posted by: thatsomewhereplace, 1/9/2013 4:29:42 PM     (No. 9107597)

Don´t ever think 0bama is incompetent. It´s hard to comprehend that a president of the US would hate the people as much as he does. He does hate us. It was obvious to me in 2007 & 2008. Oh everyone fawned over the nice clean 0bama. I even gave a thought to looking at him with unbiased eyes. The more he campaigned the more it became clear to me that he was/is a communist and that he wants to "transform" the USA into a communist "state." I am cynical. I´m considered an "elderly person". A veteran of the USNavy. Sorry but I don´t see a change for the better coming our way in the near or distant future. I say permanently kaput. In my opinion I see no current politician, pubbie or dem, interested in putting this country back on the right track. I see self-interest; an insatiable desire for power no matter what the consequences. I´m not so interested in what the rest of the world thinks of us (at this point). I dream of decency and respect for life. Honor. Morality. Love of country. I wish the best for all the younger folks. We need God.


Reply 39 - Posted by: Boneshaker, 1/9/2013 4:46:04 PM     (No. 9107623)

The federal government, supported by a majority of the voters, has already gone over to the other side.

The Obama administration has done its best to advance the interest of militant Islam.

Sockholm Syndrome on a grand scale.


Reply 40 - Posted by: dolphin, 1/9/2013 7:09:08 PM     (No. 9107879)

It occurs to me that the citizenry is better armed than it ever has been. It also occurs to me that being armed will not be enough. I am old and pray to live to see the restoration of this once great country.

I have stopped speaking to, working with or doing business with anybody I know voted for the Dems. I am supporting my conservative friends in any way I can.


Reply 41 - Posted by: Rafter, 1/9/2013 7:42:49 PM     (No. 9107922)

The midterms are next year... 2014.

Americans who hate Obamacare will be legion by then... after the Jan. 2014 kick-in
of the full socialized tyranny.

With everything else going wrong, these second term midterms should finish him off.

By capturing the Senate and keeping the House in 2014, we can wreck the Emperor´s
final two years of reign of terror.

By Jan. 2017, we can own the WH, House and Senate.
Let´s do it. Let´s stick it to him.
Let´s roll, baby.


Reply 42 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 1/9/2013 8:20:49 PM     (No. 9107961)

I agree that there is no single power to challenge us. But in the 1930s it was the same way and three powers emerged (Germany, Italy, Japan), joined forces, and plunged the world into a massive war. America being weak has always invited disaster.


Reply 43 - Posted by: typhoon, 1/9/2013 10:24:50 PM     (No. 9108118)

Look for Obama to declare martial law when he issues his executive order banning guns.


Reply 44 - Posted by: cat2, 1/10/2013 2:52:43 AM     (No. 9108251)

“You” in his commentary are the other countries in the world – this is about U.S. foreign policy.
I am not certain, as he is, that the Obama administration is non-interventionist. Obama may not go in everywhere or in the usual places, but he could well intervene in some places.
If he doesn’t, well then, fine. It’s time the rest of the world sorted itself out and took care of itself.

Right now, we need the money here at home that has been taking care of all that.



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Cybercast News Service, by Fred Lucas    Original Article
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An attorney whose firm represents two Benghazi whistleblowers said Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, lied to the Senate when he said there was never a “stand down” order during the Benghazi attack on Sept. 11, 2012. “What was fascinating is that he explained his lie to them,” Joe DiGenova, an attorney representing one of the whistleblowers, told CNSNews.com. “He actually said they were sent to Tripoli. They were needed in Benghazi,” said DiGenova, a former U.S. attorney, now with the Washington firm of DiGenova & Toensing.

Edward Snowden Is In The
Process Of Destroying Any Support
And Sympathy He Has Built Up

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Business Insider, by Brett LoGiurato    Original Article
Posted By: StormCnter- 6/18/2013 5:34:23 AM     Post Reply
Amid a steady rise of backlash, Edward Snowden, the 29-year-old former National Security Agency contractor who was the source of a spring of leaks about the agency´s surveillance methods, conducted a live chat on The Guardian´s website Monday morning. Judging from some of the pointed questions he´s been asked and the reaction to newly leaked revelations over the past few days, it´s clear that much of the sympathy and support Snowden had built up for his early exposures is eroding. Many Americans supported his decision to leak information about a pair of National Security Agency surveillance programs, which, he detailed, gathered information

Barbara Walters Defends Maher
Calling Trig Palin Retarded:
‘I Don´t Think He Intended
it to be Mean-Spirited’

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Newsbusters, by John Nolte    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 6/17/2013 5:19:02 PM     Post Reply
As NewsBusters reported last week, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin called out vulgarian comedian Bill Maher for referring to her Down Syndrome son Trig as "retarded." On ABC´s The View Monday, co-host Barbara Walters astonishingly defended Maher saying, "I don´t think he intended it to be mean-spirited" (video follows with transcript and commentary): WHOOPI GOLDBERG: At a recent standup show in Las Vegas, comedian Bill Maher apparently called Sarah Palin’s five-year-old developmentally-challenged son Trig retarded. And Sarah blasted him on Twitter as a bully. Is that, is it, is he a bully? Is he a bad, what is he?

Obama: You Can´t Fathom
´Complexities´ of Syria
Policy ´If You Haven´t Been
in Situation Room´

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Weekly Standard, by Daniel Halper    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 6/18/2013 5:30:04 PM     Post Reply
Charlie Rose last night asked President Obama his new Syria policy. The president first objected to it being called a new policy. "I´m not sure you can characterize this as a new policy. This is consistent with the policy that I´ve had throughout," he said. Obama then explained the goal is regional stability, and especially in Syria. "Really, what we´re trying to do is take sides against extremists of all sorts and in favor of people who are in favor of moderation, tolerance, representative government, and over the long-term, stability and prosperity for the people of Syria," said Obama.

The IRS Immigration Fraud Scandal
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American Spectator, by Jeffrey Lord    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 6/18/2013 10:37:24 AM     Post Reply
Marco Rubio. Paul Ryan. The IRS. Illegal immigration. And fraud to the tune of billions.. Now there’s a combustible mix. Let’s start with the IRS, illegal immigration and fraud. We’ll come back in a minute to Senator Rubio and Congressman Ryan. For those who came in late, a year before the IRS scandals burst onto the scene in early May of 2013, an alert investigative reporter for WTHR-Indianapolis (Channel 13), Bob Segall by name, produced a stunning piece of journalism. Segall’s video report is found here and we will quote from his story for the basics.

At least try to look interested,
girls! Now Michelle Obama takes
her daughters to see the ruins of
an Irish monastery (but they get
to have lunch with Bono later)

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Daily Mail [UK], by Louise Boyle, Jill Reilly    Original Article
Posted By: Attercliffe- 6/18/2013 1:37:11 PM     Post Reply
The Obamas never miss an opportunity to mingle with the stars and during a two-day trip in Dublin, who better to have lunch with than iconic Irish rocker and philanthropist Bono? First Lady Michelle along with daughters Malia, 14, and Sasha, 11, started Tuesday with an hour-long visit to picturesque Glendalough in the Wicklow Mountains--but the two girls looked like they would have rather slept in at their luxury hotel. Glendalough is famous for its Medieval monastic settlement founded in the 6th century by St Kevin, the hermit priest. After appearing less than thrilled on Monday while viewing Medieval manuscripts


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