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College Park couple says front yard
vegetable garden is under fire again

WKMG [Orlando, FL], by Kristin Giannis

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Posted By:MissMolly, 1/8/2013 12:11:43 PM

ORLANDO, Fla. - A College Park couple´s vegetable garden is on the chopping block again after the city threatened fines if they don´t uproot it by Thursday, according to the Institute for Justice Florida Chapter. Jason and Jennifer Helvenston are launching "Plant a Seed, Change the Law," a protest of Orlando’s law, which they say violates their constitutional right to peacefully use their property to grow their own food. In November, Local 6 broke the story about the controversial garden after the city told the Helvenstons their 25-by-25-foot front yard vegetable garden

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: formerNYer, 1/8/2013 12:19:55 PM     (No. 9105107)

ridiculous - you can´t have a vegetable garden on your own property? I´ll bet there is a democrap behind this law.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: lancelink1, 1/8/2013 12:20:45 PM     (No. 9105110)

If they were only growing hemp nobody would have cared.......

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Reply 3 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 1/8/2013 12:28:17 PM     (No. 9105125)

I am a big believer in property rights.

However, I also know that you voluntarily give up a lot of rights to live in a city or most subdivisions. By buying property in a city or subdivision, you voluntarily agree to all sorts of local laws and deed restrictions. The same types of laws and restrictions that keep your neighbors from storing rusting junker car carcassas in their front yard, or keeps your other neighbor from raising smelly goats in their back yard, are what are setting the rules for this couple. They may not agree with the law, but they voluntarily agreed to it when they bought that house where it stands.

Nobody forces you to buy propery in a city or subdivision. If you want far more property freedom, you have to move out to the country. That is right where my wife and I are heading as soon as we retire.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Patchy Groundfog, 1/8/2013 12:32:54 PM     (No. 9105137)

They should erect a dozen flagpoles and fly the stars and stripes.

Then they´d REALLY be in trouble.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: mickturn, 1/8/2013 12:42:28 PM     (No. 9105164)

It is not a vegetable garden, it is a xeriscape display per city ordinances that happens for some reason to grow food.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird, 1/8/2013 12:46:28 PM     (No. 9105172)

Like #3, I believe in property rights - but those do not give me the right to do things that harm others´ property rights.

I have never understood the "independent" souls who buy into planned unit developments and condo projects, after approving the CC&Rs and By-Laws and knowing full well that they will be subject to many rules, and then decide they are going to do their own thing. Without rules, there is chaos.

Don´t these people have a back yard? Do they have to live in the city? Are they activist types who, a la Obie, advocate testing the existing rules and laws?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 1/8/2013 12:47:28 PM     (No. 9105176)

I am split on this.

First of all, that is an ugly front yard, I would HATE to live next door to it. Why don´t they have that garden in their BACK yard? Why does the report say nothing about that? Now, if there is a law against having it in your back yard, I would have a problem.

If you change the law that they can have a garden, than really anything goes, because any twisted mass of non cared for trash can be called a "garden". These same people that cry foul would be wetting their pants if a neighbor parked their RV on the public street in front of their house, or parked a nonrunning car or sailboat on their driveway. Do you want any regulations at all folks, or only the ones that suit your particular interests?

Vegetable gardens belong in the BACK of the house with an appropriate fence to keep manure, chemicals, etc from going into a neighbors yard.

People amaze me. All up in arms about the rights to grow an ugly vegetable garden in the front yard, but equally upset should one of their neighbors dare put a basketball hoop up over their garage.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 1/8/2013 1:20:07 PM     (No. 9105246)

That was my thought, too, #6. Why not the backyard?

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Bevan, 1/8/2013 1:20:57 PM     (No. 9105249)

"What´s your dirt doing in Boss Keene´s yard?"

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ramona, 1/8/2013 1:34:25 PM     (No. 9105279)

Can a homeowner have a flower garden in the front yard? If so, why would that be allowed and not a vegetable garden?

Is it an ugly garden? Well, at some point every year most gardens look a bit unsightly. There are several homes in my neighborhood where the entire front lawn has been planted as perennial gardens. We have neighborhood garden walks every year to celebrate them.

I guess they should follow the law, even if it is beyond stupid. But I´ve gotta say that it neverwould have occurred to me to check the laws on planting gardens before I bought my house. I hope the movement to save this garden takes hold and that others will be inspired to grow their own food.
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Caveman, 1/8/2013 2:15:59 PM     (No. 9105380)

Sound like some kind of environmental Birkenstock wearing hippy whackjobs, that are fighting against the dims at city hall.
They can keep it up forever.

That house doesn´t look like it is in any kind of planned community or somewhere it would have any CCR´s.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: jerseyden, 1/8/2013 2:29:37 PM     (No. 9105406)

If the couple live on a corner lot I can see their point of view, other than that shame on them for not knowing the bylaws of the city or development they are in.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Starfire, 1/8/2013 3:30:24 PM     (No. 9105550)

Did a little internet search. The house is the next to last on a dead end street. Back yard is small and has no sun due to trees & two story apartment building behind.

Frankly, if they were a little more creative with their support structures the garden could actually improve that street´s property values.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: tomanderson61, 1/8/2013 3:58:56 PM     (No. 9105600)

#13, there backyard is small and gets no sun...

That is THEIR problem. If a garden was so important to them, down to the point of fighting city hall over it, why did they select this house? How about I park my converted bus motorhome on my lawn. I do so because my backyard is too small. Would you like to live next door to a guy with a bus on his lawn?

I know of no one, not one person in my neighborhood or any that I have ever lived in, that puts a huge ugly vegetable garden in their front yard! Amazing.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: mitzi, 1/8/2013 4:06:16 PM     (No. 9105611)

Get Michelle on their case! She loves vegetable gardens.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Flybynight, 1/8/2013 4:35:39 PM     (No. 9105664)

Such an illustration of stupidity on parade. No, not the people who are growing vegetables in their in their own yard, but the busy-bodies who think they have been appointed taste police. Hello, Nosy Nellies, I think your scraggly grass is ugly. Mr. Gotnolife, your stupid shrubbery pruned to beer cans and gumdrops are ludicrous. The cutesy garden ornaments, gnomes, fat women bending over with underpants showing? UGH!! Why don´t you just put up a sign saying "we´re tacky and proud of it?" No, nobody has taken YOU to court, have they? Nobody has accosted the inconsiderate jerk blowing his leaves at 0800 on a Saturday, or the dimwit who cut down MY trees because they interfered with his view of nothing. Maybe this is the only place with enough sun? The only place their dog doesn´t dig up? Doesn´t look like these people live next door to the country club. Maybe that´s how they make ends meet. The neighbors- and busybodies a long way from Orlando-should just butt out! Find a cause that matters.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 1/8/2013 11:36:16 PM     (No. 9106204)

Not sure which is worst-code enforcement or HOA´s. Both on power trips.

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