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Topic: Gabrielle Giffords: The NRA is an ‘ideological fringe’ |
Gabrielle Giffords: The NRA is an ‘ideological fringe’
Washington Examiner, by Charlie Spiering
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Posted By:KarenJ1, 1/8/2013 10:32:45 AM
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| Former U.S. Representative Gabrielle Giffords D-Ariz. launched a new policy group this morning dubbed Americans for Responsible Solutions. The organization calls for government action to stop gun violence. That sounds pretty standard, but in this morning’s USA Today op-ed, Giffords and her husband Mark Kelly specifically criticize the National Rifle Association – signalling that she will directly challenge the group’s influence. Calling the organization an “ideological fringe,” Giffords calls out the NRA leadership’s “defiant and unsympathetic response” to the school shooting in Newtown, Conn. “Rather than working to find the balance between our rights and the
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Comments: Call me cynical, but I wondered why she went to Newtown. Now I know. Is she competent to formulate these comments or are the Democrats feeding them to her? Never let a crisis go to waste indeed.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Edgelady, 1/8/2013 10:35:02 AM (No. 9104799)
Bless her heart.
The crazies are the fringe - not the NRA or gun owners.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Keekng, 1/8/2013 10:36:07 AM (No. 9104804)
Tell us, Gabby, you still carrying that Glock?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Axeman, 1/8/2013 10:38:56 AM (No. 9104810)
The is no fringe to "infringed".
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
youngtexan, 1/8/2013 10:41:46 AM (No. 9104819)
She needs to just shut up.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
reilly, 1/8/2013 10:41:55 AM (No. 9104822)
Gabby going to Newtown was a sneaky media-driven stunt. Do not let any government -- particularly Obama´s regime -- disarm American citizens. Don´t like it, go somewhere else.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
NYbob, 1/8/2013 10:44:09 AM (No. 9104827)
The NRA has tried to get mayors of major cities in the US to stop plea bargaining gun crimes, to enforce current law using Project Exile. What has this democrat ever done to prosecute gun crime and why is she bent on disarming women subjecting them to pain and suffering at the hands of criminals? You would think she would stop this pandering and do something to stop gun crime. Instead she is working to increase it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Scilicit, 1/8/2013 10:45:53 AM (No. 9104832)
Every lefty´s wet dream: make me the head of a group where I can make noise and pull down a lot of money and a nice expense account to go with it.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Keekng, 1/8/2013 10:46:45 AM (No. 9104833)
Gabrielle ´Glock´ Gifford is trying to launch her astronaut husbands political career.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
M2, 1/8/2013 10:47:55 AM (No. 9104836)
We are NOT an "ideological fringe". In fact, our values represent most of red America, conservative America.
Calling the organization an “ideological fringe,” Giffords calls out the NRA leadership’s “defiant and unsympathetic response” to the school shooting in Newtown, Conn.
What was "defiant and unsympathetic" about the NRA´s response? The fact we didn´t lay down our arms immediately, wring our hands and wear a pink ribbon? What the hell is she talking about?
Because she is a Democrat and because she went thru a horrendous ordeal when she was shot, she thinks that places her standing higher than any other Democrat´s standing on this issue?
Go away, Gabby. You´re an opportunist. And by the way, do you have personal, armed security following you around to public appearances? Hm? Should he give up his gun? You okay with that?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Daydreamer10, 1/8/2013 10:48:11 AM (No. 9104838)
Two words: Unalienable right!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
GOPJihad, 1/8/2013 10:48:17 AM (No. 9104839)
"Balance" and "Reasonable Solutions" would suggest the institutionalization of the pschologically infirmed who present a danger to themselves and the public at large, not the infringement of an explicitly protected right.
The "fringe"-sort of thinking means denying God-given rights to every single American at the expense of a possibly, maybe, but not very likely to be effective effort to prevent such massacres.
If every right were subject to such "balance" where would it end? Offensive words? Inconvenient religious beliefs?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Clinger, 1/8/2013 10:48:38 AM (No. 9104841)
When one lives in the isolated world of the elite left I can see how the common American would appear to be on the fringe.
At least I agree with her on one point. We have seen far too much death to stand idly by. We saw it in Hitler´s Germany, Stalin´s USSR, Mao´s China. We must guard against the lunacy of the uneducated fringe that believe a disarmed society is a safe society. Perhaps that´s not quite what she means.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
JAN, 1/8/2013 10:52:28 AM (No. 9104853)
Giffords continues to be exploited by her political opportunist husband, Kelly.
He rushed to blame the tea party for the killing and maiming and never apologyzed.
He has moved to Arizona from Texas and you can count on him running for McCain´s senate seat.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
janjan, 1/8/2013 10:56:43 AM (No. 9104872)
Cheap political stunt by the Democrats and their media allies. Find someone pathetic enough so that if she is criticized we can be loudly denounced as ´heartless´. Fine with me. This will not change anyone´s mind.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Achilles, 1/8/2013 10:57:38 AM (No. 9104873)
She has absolute moral authority. How dare you voice a different opinion. The only person who could even debate her on this is someone who was shot by a nutjob. Anyone else who disagrees is a racist fringist.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl, 1/8/2013 10:58:34 AM (No. 9104880)
I so wish these two would just shut up and go away.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Coy860, 1/8/2013 10:59:06 AM (No. 9104883)
Poor woman, she doesn´t have the capacity to realize that SHE is now an "ideological fringe". Bless her heart.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
capt scurvey, 1/8/2013 11:00:32 AM (No. 9104891)
Got half a mind to take them on, honey?
Tool...
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
yuban, 1/8/2013 11:01:21 AM (No. 9104896)
All I can say is that OUR "fringe" group can wipe out YOUR "fringe" group. Keep pushing the envelope and you shall see.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
jimK1, 1/8/2013 11:04:23 AM (No. 9104917)
#15 I missed the s/o but Gabby has about as much moral authority as Sarah Brady which is to say Zero. Just like her buddy - Zero the communist in chief.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
BaseballFan, 1/8/2013 11:07:26 AM (No. 9104931)
Battle lines are now drawn.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Achilles, 1/8/2013 11:07:27 AM (No. 9104932)
s/o
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Teleologicus, 1/8/2013 11:08:05 AM (No. 9104933)
Had I been shot like Gabby Giffords, I too might be angry and on a crusade against firearms. Or, if I had brain damage, I might be influenced by others on such a crusade. James Brady, I believe, was put to this purpose after the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan which left Brady severely injured.
I might think and feel and act just the way such unfortunate victims do. But I wouldn´t necessarily be right, not just because I was the victim of a gun wielding assailant. Getting shot like that would confer no special wisdom or insight or even morality upon me. Indeed, it would if anything give grounds to doubt my perspective and objectivity on the issue of gun control.
Gabby Giffords and others were gunned down by a raving lunatic who everybody that had dealt with him for years KNEW to be a raving, dangerous lunatic. People were afraid of him. He was bizarre, threatening, paranoid and inappropriate in class. He was suspended from school pending a note from a psychiatrist -which he never obtained- saying it was safe for him to return. Four armed sheriff´s deputies delivered the suspension to his home. Yet no attempt was ever made by anyone, beginning with his parents, to force him to have a psychiatric evaluation.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Subal, 1/8/2013 11:17:39 AM (No. 9104959)
She is acting as if she is a Kennedy!
Another pox that should go away.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
GomerShabazz, 1/8/2013 11:25:10 AM (No. 9104972)
Gabby...you were a stupid half-wit before you were shot by a half-wit.
We are not a fringe...we are sheep....
We are sheep watching two wolves discussing what to have for dinner and disagreeing with them.
We figure that when the next Al Capone takes control of goverment...we do someum bout it!.....you stupid useful idiot....we will not be slaughtered quietly you dumb stupid beech!
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
RayLRiv, 1/8/2013 11:27:00 AM (No. 9104978)
Gabrielle, Honey...so is today´s DemoRAT Party...
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
jimmiet, 1/8/2013 11:28:26 AM (No. 9104983)
Criminals using guns have absolutely nothing to do with my 2nd amendment rights. There are no disclaimers in the Constitution!
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
hamrman, 1/8/2013 11:30:12 AM (No. 9104988)
The Looney Left is getting it wrong again!!! The NRA is highly revelant in the protection of our "Natural Right" freedoms, instead the Loons on the left are bullying the other half of the country that oppose their three ring circus!
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
DARling, 1/8/2013 11:33:56 AM (No. 9105005)
Ms. Giffords is not thinking deep thoughts about anything. She will say what is put in front of her at an interview. Does anyone really think she herself "wrote" or even thought up that statement about the NRA? Her husband wants to be relevant and make some money. What better way than to solicit contributions for a foundation that will need a CEO and spokesman--him. His wife is just the smiling figurehead.
How awful it must be to be surrounded by users who would exploit your victimhood. There will be enough talk about "her" views and opinions, aided by the unwillingness to challenge her sainthood, that the public will be convinced that she´s ready to hold office again. If you say anything against her, it will be considered "mean-spirited."
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
civilservant, 1/8/2013 11:36:32 AM (No. 9105011)
Why are we so upset that this Democrat is simply stating; loudly and proudly, that the entire Democrat party is as racist as racist can be? That they HATE black people and want to see them dead?
We all know that the NRA was set up to ensure that Blacks; post emancipation and 14th Amendment ratification, were armed when DEMOCRATS came to deny them the full status of citizen that the REPUBLICANS fought and DIED for!!!
The Democrat party is THE party of Slavery and Racism!!!! Always has been, always will be.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Conservativegirl, 1/8/2013 11:41:44 AM (No. 9105025)
Gabby Giffords and Jim Brady and his lunatic wife are classic lib/prog examples of the Stockholm Syndrome. They side with the criminals who attacked them and attack the protectors in society who regularly prevent these occurances.
Girl´s Hubby
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
GW_Rider, 1/8/2013 11:44:33 AM (No. 9105029)
Now we know what the Brain Damaged-Americans think.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
nigella, 1/8/2013 11:54:10 AM (No. 9105053)
I used to feel sorry for her. Now, not so much....
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
noproblems, 1/8/2013 11:59:49 AM (No. 9105065)
i got shot, i am a victim, therefore i am an expert on how to stop crazy people from killing. Democratic deductive reasoning.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
shamrock, 1/8/2013 12:13:01 PM (No. 9105092)
Wow #33, you sure are a busy little troll today.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
enuf8, 1/8/2013 12:52:23 PM (No. 9105185)
I thought she was a 2nd amendment supporter prior to her encounter--sounds like hubby is using her again for publicity.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
mickturn, 1/8/2013 12:52:34 PM (No. 9105186)
Yea, right...next think we´ll be hearing that you set up some ´get rid of guns´ organization and will be scamming the money you collect just like all lib do gooders...Oh, Wait you just did that!
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
bighambone, 1/8/2013 1:14:12 PM (No. 9105229)
The liberal Democrats will never admit that the problem is with the mentally ill and not the NRA, as the mental health industry and the mentally ill are liberal Democrat constituency groups, while the NRA and the small arms and related industries in the USA are conservative oriented constituency groups. Like almost everything else the politicians deal with, when you get to the bottom line, this is all political, and will have little affect in the future on dangerous mentally ill people who decide to perpetrate mass shootings, to bring attention to themselves while on their personal suicide missions.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Father of Internet, 1/8/2013 2:41:59 PM (No. 9105443)
This sounds like what the media is to the First Amendment - since when have they been responsible and balanced in their reporting?
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
bob913, 1/8/2013 3:14:25 PM (No. 9105518)
People with guns saved her and many others the day she was sot by a lunatic.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
lostinmassachusetts, 1/8/2013 6:16:11 PM (No. 9105819)
Without wishing to offend Gabrielle Giffords, from what I´ve seen of her recently, I´m not sure she could either think of nor articulate the words ‘ideological fringe’ without much effort. Obviously, she is being offered as a mouthpiece for the Democrat party in the gun control debate. They should be ashamed for taking advantage of a disabled person, but we all know that shame is not a Democrat sensibility.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Teleologicus, 1/8/2013 7:11:28 PM (No. 9105911)
It is standard Leftist Orwellian practice to refer to political opponents as the fringe, extremists, radicals, out of the mainstream, etc.
Every single thing -every single thing, no exceptions- advocated by the militant Left today is contrary to the values, traditions, customs and practices of the Republic until the last half century. Abortion, marijuana, pornography and public obscenity, speech codes, political correctness, big government, normalization of homosexuality, hostility to religion(Islam excepted), anti-Americanism, class warfare, redistribution of wealth, more government regulations, private and public immorality, diversity, quotas, affirmative action, huge government debt, multiculturalism, lax or no border security, women in combat, government health care and, of course, attempts to restrict private ownership of firearms.
The mendacity of the Left is breathtaking. It amply confirms the "Big Lie" theory of Hitler et al., that if one lies boldly and brazenly enough, the masses will ultimately be persuaded that it is the truth. No one, they would reason, could possibly say such things repeatedly unless they were true.
It is the Left that is radical, extremist, innovative, and destructive of all traditions, norms and values in its quest for a brave new world. But time and time again Leftists and their media mouthpieces tell us that it is normal, traditional, everyday Americans, those whose beliefs and standards have changed little or not at all, who are the extremists, the radicals, and the fringe.
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