But.....when the left controls the market in the marketplace of ideas, when conservatives are shouted down and run out of most public forums, when the elections are stolen, when the memory hole swallows everything unfavorable to the left.....then civil discourse has no option but to become civil war.

We´ve lost the culture, that war is over. Standing in the rain and crying about it won´t change anything.

Time to head for Galt´s Gulch.

When Conservatives are not even wanted, except for their vote, in the GOP then it is time to step away. Conservatives are better than most at self-reliance so we can leave ya all be and not worry about tomorrow.

Yeah, let´s blow off Christ´s commandment that we fight for His values and accept society´s scorn as a badge of honor. It´s too hard and we´re a bunch of wimps when it comes to our faith. Let´s just take our ball and go home. Let evil win. I guess that´s the message among some posters?

Actually, I think this has already happened and that is why we are where we are now, in a second Obama term. I know people here won´t like this, but home schooling just allows liberalism to remain completely unchecked in the educational system. Conservatives need to stay in the schools system and change them - volunteering in class, going to school board meetings, reading the text books, and most importantly teaching your child how to deal with the liberal viewpoint and make their arguments against it. There were many freedom loving people who lived in the USSR and the countries they took over. Their principles didn´t help them.

Battles must be chosen carefully. Why sacrifice children on the alter of trying to reform public schools? How can you change the school system in Detroit, DC, LA, Chicago, etc.? The courts and unions have caused too much damage. Help develop alternatives for all. Internet schooling is an excellent alternative.

This bitter clinger with my guns and Bible will probably always vote Republican vs. the democrat alternative. I may not be enthusiastic about it, but will always be mindful that the alternative will be worse.

Democrats hold their noses and vote. Republicans sit on their butts and whine about staying home because their guy isn´t perfect, or worse, talk about a "protest vote" for the liberal competitor. Yeah, that´ll show the RHINOs. No, it only makes things worse for the next four years.

I won´t even get started on those who stated on these boards that they would not vote for Romney because he was a Mormon.

We are a diminished country for not voting for a decent man with a fine family and work ethic. I hope everyone enjoyed reading about Obama´s vacation, especially when the country had the temerity to ruin his fun by expectng him to lead our country.

Amen, Mr. Wiles. Glad someone out there is listening to what I´ve been saying. Now if only we can do something about the loony tunes on the radio talk shows that keep undermining the conservative political movement by associating themselves with our cause.

Oh that is such B.S. We´re not cocooning, we´re resting, watching, observing, taking notes. Nope, we´re not down or out.