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General Details Pentagon Tensions
With Obama on Afghanistan

New York Times, by Michael R. Gordon

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Posted By:Oblio, 1/6/2013 7:19:33 AM

WASHINGTON — In a memoir, Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the former American commander in Afghanistan, writes that tensions between the White House and the Pentagon were evident in the Obama administration from its opening months in office.The beginning of President Obama’s first term “saw the emergence of an unfortunate deficit of trust between the White House and the Department of Defense, largely arising from the decision-making process on Afghanistan,” General McChrystal writes. “The effects were costly.”

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: steveW, 1/6/2013 7:59:28 AM     (No. 9101216)

One of the greatest tragedies of the Obama "presidency" is that our troops have been forced to serve under a commander in chief who - they all must surely, surely know - does not wish the nation well and has more sympathy for American enemies than he does for Americans. I don´t know how they do it, or stand it.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Spidey, 1/6/2013 8:02:00 AM     (No. 9101223)

McChrystal should have never been fired over some stupid bar room chatter to begin with,especially by this liberal,know it all geek from Rolling Stone.

Obama and the muslims share a common hatred of whatever the whole package of colonialism is/was,so they were partners from the very beginning.The troop surge which took Obama 3 months to decide on, turned out to be nothing but a show of toughness,not adding assets to beat the enemy.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Judith, 1/6/2013 8:39:29 AM     (No. 9101279)

According to the statistics, our soldiers are committing suicide in high numbers. At least that is the story out of this whitehouse. A million of them are about to be discharged and, from the sounds of it, kicked to the curb with nothing. And they are returning to a country that re-elected a man, a party, that has historically detested them and treated them like dirt. God help them.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ross maclochness, 1/6/2013 8:49:09 AM     (No. 9101293)

I´m second to none in my admiration of American military people. My family´s combat record is a 50-year nightmare. I was born on an army post and have been around military people off and on ever since.

But they´re not angels. It´s true that the people running the Pentagon and the major commands sacrificed much and behaved with great virtue to get where they are. But at this lofty level they´re managing an arm of the government, like they´re supposed to do, with their own set of interests.

And so I´d counsel against blaming tensions between the White House and the Pentagon solely on Obama´s being a boob. That´s a separate issue. He´s not the first president to be handed a defense establishment that sometimes forgets who it´s working for.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: strike3, 1/6/2013 9:11:21 AM     (No. 9101340)

It´s bad enough going through civilian life with all of the problems caused by the stupidity of the obama administration in the past four years. I could not imagine serving in the military under this incompetent jackass and having to pretend to respect his sorry butt every day. McChrystal was a top-notch general who clashed with a worthless punk who happens to outrank him.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: EnsignO´Toole, 1/6/2013 9:18:21 AM     (No. 9101353)

It shouldn´t surprise anyone that Obama isn´t Ameria´s "super fan". Long before he was elected, he wrote in Audacity of Hope (page 261 of the paperback edition) :“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

IIRC there was a video of him saying that exact thing at either a news conference or in an interview. My question at the time was: What constitutes an "ugly direction" in his mind? His statement should have scared the heck out of Americans, especially Judeo/Christians, despite the fact that some in that category are low-information voters.

Sorry, but I consider stoning, beheading, or behanding to be barbaric, and woman wearing a full burka is not only frightening but also obscene. Sharia Law is not a condition under which I want to live, and any one who does is not a friend.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: lakerman1, 1/6/2013 10:14:53 AM     (No. 9101452)

MChrystal is responsible for rules of engagement that are getting our troops killed regularly. He is also responsible for the filthy islamofascist terrorist pig trainees killing our troops on training missions.
But no one should expect much from bath house barry, who detests the military more than bill and hillary clinton detest the military.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: toddh, 1/6/2013 10:33:20 AM     (No. 9101473)

The Rolling Stone article which forced his resignation was found to be inaccurate. That means The Enemedia was able to take out the top battlefield general of the United States of America, just by lying.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Butch59, 1/6/2013 10:56:16 AM     (No. 9101500)

The object of a war is to defeat the enemy´s capacity and the will to resist. Period. There is no way to be victorious unless you achieve BOTH objects. Remember, the Japaneese were at the point that they really couldn´t resist but still had the will to do so until we dropped atomic bombs on them. That is the one real credit that I give to FDR. When war was declared, he turned it over to the military, who´s generals were more than capable to win the war. Ever since, every president we have had has tried to run the war by WH politicians who have absolutely no knowledge of how to conduct a war. Their only thoughts and plans center around their personal political futures. Plus the fact is that far too many generals achieve their vaulted rank by playing politics with whomever is currently in the WH. That´s because all the high level cushy jobs are presidential appointees.

But, I still have enormous respect for the average grunt down in the trenches doing the hard work of combat. They are the best in the world.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: RancherJack, 1/6/2013 11:50:35 AM     (No. 9101588)

... and this is the great tragedy of our highest ranking officers leading our military.

They are each and all **ssies.

A REAL MAN stands up and tells the truth, kicks the evil doers in the lemons and dares anyone go toe to toe. Tells THE TRUTH and lets the chips fall where they may.

Our military leaders hide behind tradition, chain of command, a "decent regard for authority" and the rest of mantra of Command Respect.

I´m 100% for chain of command. But there comes a time when a REAL MAN takes off the glove and draws down on evil.

And if you disagree with me, then you are slapping George Washington and all our Founding Fathers in the face with your ignorance. They DEFIED their sovereign rulers at the risk of their lives .... at the risk of their lives ...

Not their pensions.

I am ashamed of the limp wristed panty-waisted excuses for MEN supposedly leading our nation.

Selah

PS - we dying under the tyranny of "reasonable men"

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Mother of AL, 1/6/2013 12:19:59 PM     (No. 9101632)

# 10--love your posts. Remember--there was another president who disturbed the military

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Reply 12 - Posted by: GO3, 1/6/2013 12:49:53 PM     (No. 9101669)

The Rolling Stone article was found to be inaccurate by a Pentagon "study." It had to be inaccurate from their POV because the article´s main point wasn´t that McChrystal´s staff called Zero a bunch of names. It was inaccurate because it chronicled the General´s travels to tactical units to try and convince them that COIN and the stupid ROE were the way to go. More importantly, the troops weren´t buying it. And that as we all know, is as accurate as it can get.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: bighambone, 1/6/2013 4:23:08 PM     (No. 9101928)

Why now is this retired General coming up with all this, perhaps with an Obama Administration job in mind?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Starlady, 1/6/2013 6:09:04 PM     (No. 9102021)

I know from reading many past posts that Sean Hannity is not everyone´s favorite talk show host. BUT General McChrystal will have the entire on Sean´s show Monday night. If you are interested.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Bobn.T, 1/6/2013 11:26:01 PM     (No. 9102372)

America, that is the blacks and others, wanted a black pres. Look what they got: an America-hating, anti-military, anti-semite, musbro - plus lots of other not-so-nice adjectives.

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