There is not the slightest doubt that Penn State’s football program enabled Jerry Sandusky to sexually abuse numerous children for numerous years. The evidence is beyond overwhelming. Sandusky has been tried, convicted and imprisoned. Former university President Graham Spanier, athletic director Tim Curley and Vice President Gary Schultz have been charged with criminal coverups. The school was ever so lucky that the NCAA withheld the death penalty from its football fund-raising colossus. Still, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett has filed a federal lawsuit to get his flagship university out from under those penalties that the NCAA did bring to bear.
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Johnny Angle, 1/6/2013 6:06:14 AM (No. 9101093)
Clearly the NCAA overreached. Also, the NCAA is the ultimate hypocrite, with its monopolistic plantation system of athletic slavery of young athletes. On the other hand, though, didn´t the University "sign all the papers" and thereby seal its fate, no matter how inappropriate the sanctions were?
Most people didn´t think Penn St. would get the NCAA death penalty, so one wouldn´t describe them as oh so lucky to have escaped it. The 2nd most high profile person in this case, P.S. Pres. Graham Spanier, is by no means suffering so maybe NYDN could check it out. Spanier was hired by Obama shortly after he was forced out of P.S. Spanier is being paid by the US taxpayer, working for a ´top secret´ federal agency on high security matters. I´d say this places all Americans in serious danger.
I think the punishment by the NCAA was over the top. It wasn´t the football program that caused this horrible history of child molestation and cover-up. It was the people running it. There should not be anyone left on that campus who had any involvement whatsoever to do with this and of the most guilty one is in prison and one is dead. Why punish the students, athletes and community for something they are innocent of? The NCAA did this for their own PR.
@#1: "monopolistic plantation system of athletic slavery of young athletes."
You´ve got to be kidding me, right? This is a joke, right? Tuition, room and board at these schools is around $50K per year and these D-1 athletes are going for free. That´s a $200,000 education--FREE of charge because they can play a sport and you equate this to slavery? Do you even know what "slavery" is?
Posters here are forgetting something. The players had the chance to leave! They had the option to play for a different school if they so wished and if they choose to stay then it is on their heads. The school enabled horrible crimes against kids. Some people hear sound like they are ok with that. The NCAA went easy on this school in my opinion.
#6, did you see the hit South Carolina´s Jadaveon Clowney put on a Michigan player to cause a fumble and get the ball back after the ref mistakenly awarded a first down to the Wolverines? I bet he would be a first round pick if he could declare for the draft, but he can´t: due to NCAA and NFL regulations, he has to play another year, risking injury and beaucoup bucks. For that and 500 other reasons, I despise, well at least I really don´t like, the NCAA.
Indeed, #11, the players had a chance to leave, and some of them did. On the other hand, some chose not to abandon the ones who had recruited them and had given them a chance to play at the collegiate level.
Character matters, and I have only the greatest respect for those players who chose to remain in the face of adversity. I found myself cheering for the underdog Nittany Lions all season long.
Some posters here are not aware of all the facts, and the Freeh Report had a pre-ordained outcome--blame Penn State. In 1998, Sandusky was observed showering with a juvenile in the locker room by a school security guard. The guard reported it to his superior, who reported it to Centre County police. The Centre County DA and police conducted an investigation but found no complainants and no charges were filed. Sandusky retired from Penn State football in 1998, and thereafter had no official capacity or rule at PS. He continued to attend games and use the facilities, however, just as any retiree or alumnus would.
I am not saying that PS is blameless here. After 1998 they should have exiled him from the university, and when new allegations occurred in 2010, they should have gone public.
But why are we penalizing by PS by forfeiting all their wins back to 1998, fining them (and the state taxpayers) by $60-million, cutting their scholarships, banning them from bowl games, etc., when Centre County police and DA dropped the ball? Even if they filed no charges back then, they should have kept Sandusky under surveillance.
The NCAA is bullying PS, just as they are bullying schools with Indian names for their mascots to change them.
Yes, the $60-million fine is against the University. But as a state-funded institution, it really is levied against the PA taxpayer--and that really galls me.
State Penn covered up criminal activity and is being punished for it. State Penn´s entire campus and town is built around the stadium. Take away football and you have a true and convincing punishment, not a slap on the wrist. To challenge that decision shows that State Penn is still corrupt to the core. And while we´re prosecuting felons, might want to take a look at State Penn´s climatology program headed by Mike Mann.
There are two purposes behind penalties. One is punishment. I agree that the perpetrators are not the ones being punished in this case. The second purpose is to deter anyone from doing that again. Officials closed their eyes to things because they thought it was in the best interest of the team. Sometimes you use punishment to make an example so that no one ever again thinks that it would be best to ignore such behavior. Removing the penalties at this stage would send a signal that such dastardly deeds are OK to ignore.
When the initial investigation was taking place, the Centre County DA went missing, and has since been declared dead. One could surmise that had he not disappeared, the matter would have been taken care of. The NCAA overreached by a mile on this one. If they can get away with their brand of justice, the sky will be the limit for them.
I don´t believe in the little commissars that are springing up, the little czars. Who gave them this power?
Punish the guilty but leave the innocent alone! The fans, the university and the State did not participate. Death penalties on football programs are for football violations. Did we figure out what school Ken Lay went to and penalize that football program?
Diverting money and sources of revenues from the university and the state is wrong. Stop the NCAA.
Who the H-LL is the ny daily news to say who can file for a lawsuit or not? Oh, I guess that only liberal, socialist, communist, democRAT politicians are now allowed to try for redress of transcretions in the U, S, Court System.
I am content to let the lawsuit go forward to see what happens and also to see what, if any, new evidence is presented.
1) We will learn what clout the NCAA has. Things such as past NCAA behavior, their formal rules, and membership.
2) Could the NCAA have expelled PS? That would IMO have caused other schools to refuse to play PS.
3) Professional baseball and, I believe, the NFL and NBA have some exceptions to federal laws that apply to ordinary businesses. But they are professional sports, what federal exceptions do the NCAA and PS and other universities have? Will the court dream up any?
4) Did PS create a contract, formal or not, with their players? Would a player therefore be entitled to his scholarship even if PS cannot field a team at all?
Those four are starter thoughts. And I like to keep lawyers employed. Let the suit continue.
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