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Dick Armey Sticks His FreedomWorks
Payback to Glenn Beck

Atlantic, by Elspeth Reeve

Original Article

Posted By:StormCnter, 1/5/2013 5:39:25 AM

Former FreedomWorks chairman Dick Armey revealed that the Tea Party group paid Glenn Beck about $1 million to say "nice things" about the group on his radio show, and that it got a negative return on that investment, in an interview Friday — with the liberal group Media Matters, of all places. It´s the latest strange revelation in the FreedomWorks civil war. Armey reportedly tried to stage an armed coup last fall, but his reign didn´t last long, and donor Richard J. Stephenson agreed to pay Armey $400,000 a year for 20 years to go away.

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"an armed coup"? Wha..?

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Periwinkel, 1/5/2013 5:47:15 AM     (No. 9099629)

Armed coup??? $400,000 a year for 20 years??? I am not giving Freedom Works another dime. Sorry folks, work together, or don´t——but don´t go throwing my hard earned money at each other in spiteful, immature cat fights!

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Reply 2 - Posted by: scottc, 1/5/2013 5:49:02 AM     (No. 9099631)

There´s an old saying "all revolutions eat their young". Egos, greed and corruption are going to be the downfall of the Tea Party.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bkt23, 1/5/2013 6:18:41 AM     (No. 9099647)

The tea party isn´t a formal group; no one can claim to be the leader of the tea party.

The tea party is all of us who understand the government (at all levels) has overstepped its legal bounds. It is all people who wish to return to the rule of law. It is everyone who favors individualism over collectivism.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: nina584, 1/5/2013 6:53:30 AM     (No. 9099669)

Armey has a horrible reputation. He is just an opportunist.A bunch of these groups kidnapped the tea party name to make $$$.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: JEMMac, 1/5/2013 6:53:45 AM     (No. 9099670)

I guess I´m not understanding part of this - FreedomWorks paid Glenn Beck and Rush in order to do ads for them, right? What is the issue with that? They make it sound like it´s something sneaky or underhanded, when it was just a simple business deal; whenever I heard either host talk about FreedomWorks, I knew I was hearing a commercial.

Or am I wrong about any of this?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Fiesta del sol, 1/5/2013 7:11:41 AM     (No. 9099689)

Good, honest folks sent their hard earned money to Freedom Works, and Dick Armey walks away with $8 mil. How does he live with himself?

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Kitty Myers, 1/5/2013 7:19:23 AM     (No. 9099697)

Are you sure you can trust this source? The Left is trying to rip apart the Right -- to get us fighting with each other. Y´know, ´divided we fall.´ It appears to be successful.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Bad Dog, 1/5/2013 7:20:05 AM     (No. 9099698)

I ´´joined´´ FreedomWorks for the Freedom Connector I heard about on both radio shows. I never sent them any money, however. I knew Dick Armey was part of it, but I never really participated (because Dick Armey was part of it).

Now that he´s gone and seemingly has defected over to Media Matters, I may become more active.

I´m very reluctant to put my name to anything these days, if I can´t determine exactly who was instrumental in setting it up, who´s on its board of directors, who´s controlling the money flow, etc. I have felt for a couple of years now that we, TEA partyists, are being set up.

This is one more step in the direction of confirmation of my hunch. He goes to Media Matters? Good gawd......


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Reply 9 - Posted by: PoliticalJunky, 1/5/2013 7:20:40 AM     (No. 9099699)

got the impression that Limbaugh and Beck were paid to say "nice things" in their commentaries; that the payments were not for "ads". If my understanding is accurate I find this very disturbing.

For the first time in years I have not renewed the Linbaugh Letter. Not because of this but because of Limbaugh´s initial hostility to Mitt Romney. Rush did a 180 late in the game but the damage was done. I still listen on occasion but his claim to always be 99.9 per cent correct has suffered a big hit with me.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: StormCnter, 1/5/2013 7:24:28 AM     (No. 9099702)

Thank you, #9. I stopped listening to Limbaugh years ago when he began to misuse his very real power to manipulate his audience.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: plumnellie, 1/5/2013 7:26:06 AM     (No. 9099704)

Hard to get our message out when our leaders are greedy hogs just like those of our adversary. Nothing wrong with buying ads on Rush and Beck. Armey should lose his big pay off for this interview.
As a tea party supporter, I don´t follow anyone but a non paid local guy who sends out emails to alert us about bills, movements, rallies, or corruption in our local and state government. Nationally, I like a few leaders but am cautious. Rand Paul is one. But, am realistic in supposing the pressures on him are tremendous. And, human nature is weak. Ryan voted for the latest sell out. He is not showing the strength I had hoped.
We need Cruz, West(sadly defeated by his own party)Rubio and a few others to emerge. The old white man´s club has gotten soft. Am so sick of weepy Boehner and McConnel the Biden Bro. Time for us to stop tolerating the weak sisters in Repub leadership. Many posters support any Repub that comes down the pike(if they are not Palin or realllly realllly conservative). Why reward those who betray us. Not me. No more money to GOP.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: judy, 1/5/2013 7:38:55 AM     (No. 9099720)

Is Armey related to Jesse Ventura.....

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Reply 13 - Posted by: judy, 1/5/2013 7:44:54 AM     (No. 9099729)

I´ll never believe Rush & Glen was paid to say nice things about anyone...they don´t need the little $$$$ this article appears to imply. Armey´s buddy went in armed to a meeting, sounds goofy to me. Never trusted this guy.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: JAN, 1/5/2013 7:50:15 AM     (No. 9099737)

Rush and Levin did a 180 near the end of the election cycle.

Wonder if they were paid to do so.

It was too little too late and frankly, their endless bashing of republicans is sickening.

They keep their listeners enthralled with their bashing but America has paid a terrible price for the re-election of the maoist.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: CEP, 1/5/2013 7:52:03 AM     (No. 9099739)

Armey is a jerk, he saw a way to make money and conservatives were duped. Why should he care he has his money, remeber he was a politician first. Same with that ex senator from Wyoming he created part of te problem now he is going around telling everyone the are greedy. I am sick f these politicians they set themseves up for a life of comfort then blame others for the problems.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Coy860, 1/5/2013 7:58:11 AM     (No. 9099750)

I read the article carefully, and believe Armey is being "slick" when he describes Beck and Rush as "being paid to say nice things about.."in an effort to besmirch them.
I believe you and I and most clear headed people call that "commercials".
Throw in the Media Matters and Mother Jones, and that is the icing on the cake. A nothing burger that smells from Armey.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 1/5/2013 8:11:03 AM     (No. 9099775)

Did Armey think that shows like Beck´s gave advertising space away for free? Of course they cost money. But the ad copy was lousy and that Mr. Armey, is YOUR fault, not theirs. And to the posters who think Rush manipulates his audience? Get over yourselves. He doesn´t need to. Romney was the candidate of the RINO elites, like McCain was.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 1/5/2013 8:13:03 AM     (No. 9099779)

Regardless of who is right or wrong on this, it fits nicely with the divide and conquer tactic famously used by the left to destroy conservatism...but, only if we let it happen. Had enough, yet?

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Reply 19 - Posted by: LZK, 1/5/2013 8:19:13 AM     (No. 9099798)

I´m with poster #3......

WE have "no" leaders....

WE are "We the People"....

LZK

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Reply 20 - Posted by: chance_232, 1/5/2013 8:24:37 AM     (No. 9099808)

Rush, Levin and Glenn did a 180 on Romney because the alternative was s socialist. Romney was the right candidate in 2008...he lost.

Unfortunatly, none of the candidates in the GOP primary was by himself a really good candidate for this election cycle. At least half of the members here didnt like Romney. " I will never vote for a Mormon" I will never vote for that RINO Mittens" "Romney is a liberal" etc etc etc

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Reply 21 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 1/5/2013 8:25:41 AM     (No. 9099812)

´´Limbaugh and Beck were paid to say nice things about Tea Party on the radio´´.

well, where I come from that´s called Paid Advertising...

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Starlady, 1/5/2013 8:27:30 AM     (No. 9099815)

I listen to both Beck and Rush when I have the time. I heard both talking about Freedom Works and it sure sounded like their other paid advertising.
I have never sent Freedom Works money, although I appreciated its mission, because Dick Armey seemed to be the leader I heard associated with the group. Never have respected Dick Armey. He has perfected his back stabbing ways I see.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: suedotsue, 1/5/2013 8:34:07 AM     (No. 9099827)

No one needs to dream up horrible stories about establishment Republicans just to divide the GOP. Who else would run to Media Matters? The details of Armey´s story have been out for quite awhile. It´s a little late to suggest the source made it up to harm the GOP. The GOP barely existed after the 2008 election and it didn´t bother them. They´re quite happy in the minority. The thing they don´t like is ordinary Americans, particularly conservatives. They didn´t really want the people we gave them in 2010. As reported in the Wall St. Journal right after the 2010 election, Trent Lott was quoted saying it was imperative for his tribe to co-opt the new Tea Party people. That´s what the GOP has been doing every day since then. Mark Levin is 100% correct.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: philsner, 1/5/2013 8:34:10 AM     (No. 9099828)

Right, it´s now bash Rush Limbaugh for making money on advertising season. Profit is evil.

And Sarah Palin would make a terrible president, and it wasn´t Romney"s fault he lost the election.

I tell you what: In my opinion there is nothing worse than a know it all who never listens to Rush Limbaugh proclaiming that he "stopped" listening when Rush spoke the truth and offended his leftist sensibilities.

Rush "manipulates his audience"? No that would be you. And you ain´t got the right tools. So just keep on believing and agreeing with leftist bilge. I don´t buy it.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: BarryNo, 1/5/2013 8:34:13 AM     (No. 9099829)

You people better understand this is a death struggle! The Communists have been master infiltrators for decades. They have the patience to set up moles and ringers so that they have people of ´impeccable´ credentials in any organization they feel they might need to influence. These people work diligently to move up the ladders until they are deciding who joins the leadership of such a group.

Then they stuff their friends in, guickly, quietly, displacing the ´true believers´ with people who twist the message or shut down the threat. That´s what happened in Education, in journalism and in the Democrat Party - though the latter was a willing victim.

Armey said the right things publicly. Then he struck. It failed, but he then sought a consolation prize. Don´t think he is the only snake in the grass at Freedom Works, either. He was simply the one most likely to succeed at the time. There are other little infiltrators in there, saying the right things and waiting for their chance.

The reason they are so successful is that most people are too busy just trying to get by. Communist Fanatics are just that - Fanatics - and they ooze enthusiasm for any cause they wish to twist to their own ends, while the rest of us approve their public message and try to get by as best we can. Then we are disheartened when we are betrayed.

A classic method of control.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: philsner, 1/5/2013 8:39:23 AM     (No. 9099841)

And by the way, Rush did not do a "180" on Romney. If you had ever actually listened, you wouldn´t be saying that and showcasing your ignorance.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 1/5/2013 8:41:34 AM     (No. 9099848)

Please do explain in detail how the Romney detractors on and off the air were wrong? Romney ran 100% true to his past form in several Massachusetts elections. He spent a fortune trashing conservatives in the primary and then lost the general election campaign despite being an early favorite to win.

The Mitt maniacs can delude themselves in pointing fingers at Rush and Beck et al, but the real problem was your man Romney ran a simply awful general election campaign. He let Obama define him as an out of touch corporate looter and failed to offer a compelling counter vision to attract less interested conservative voters to the polls. of

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Reply 28 - Posted by: wetlander, 1/5/2013 8:42:02 AM     (No. 9099849)

What #3 and #19 said. I believe the "Tea Party" is another example of the power grabbers and publicity seekers attempting to capture and organize a popular concept for their own personal gain. My understanding is the actual "Tea Party" individuals are simply independent thinking constitutionalists dissatisfied with the activities of the established governmental structure. I feel they will hopefully never fall into a "one size fits all" grouping.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Rinktum, 1/5/2013 8:42:36 AM     (No. 9099850)

I knew the Tea Party was in trouble when these "national figures" started piling on. They hopped on board when they saw the enthusiasm it generated and they wanted the opportunity to wield some power and make some money. I would like to see the rallies start again for no other reason than it scares both the left and right establishment to spitless. They fear the power of the people and rightly so.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: BruisedOrange, 1/5/2013 8:47:22 AM     (No. 9099865)

Rush has various commercial rates. One is for a set script, often recorded, to be done at pre-specified times. The other is "worked into the conversation" as opportunity presents a reasonable segue, or as Rush veers into it. The late Paul Harvey was almost too good at it.

"Paid to say nice things" sounds like a spun, self-serving description of the latter. It´s still just a commercial.

BTW: Does there seem to be a pattern of personality among professors-turned-politicians?

Even the patrician New Yorker Daniel Patrick Moynihan would have earned the "bomb thrower" label (remember his report, "The Negro Family: A Case for National Action"?) if he´d had a southern accent and an R after his name.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: earlybird, 1/5/2013 8:47:39 AM     (No. 9099866)

The tea party was a concept. When it became The Tea Party, it attracted power-seekers and headed off the rails.

There has always been a tea party mentality in our country - most of us here have it. It is a guiding principle. As happens with many "organizations", The Tea Party, its spokespeople, its so-called "representatives", and those who would have co-opted it (and corrupted it?) for their own benefit became a major turnoff.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 1/5/2013 8:51:06 AM     (No. 9099869)

Armey lost me when he became the 600 lb gorrilla in Doug Hoffman´s campaign. Outsider Armey became the media face of the campaign. His advice to play up national issues at the expense of local issues probably cost Hoffman a much needed endorsement, antagonized locals and may well have cost us a winnable race.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: WAN2, 1/5/2013 8:59:24 AM     (No. 9099883)

It is not a crime to buy air time. Nor is it a crime for Rush and Glenn to say nice things about the people who BUY air time as fellow travelers. This dog won´t hunt, Dickie.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Janjan, 1/5/2013 9:08:04 AM     (No. 9099899)

It´s much harder to organize conservatives than liberals. We aren´t accepting cash payments to be bussed around to protest sites and we don´t blindly follow whoever proclaims themselves ´our leader´. This started out as a grass roots movement by regular citizens who were sick of the system. Dick Armey saw money to be made so he stepped into it, destroyed the movement and got out. Money corrupts. Look at Washington.

Also have to agree with the comments about Rush. I used to be a big fan of his but his commentary since the election has been tiresome. Look, we know we lost and it is about a lot more than Rush´s personal reputation. And continually bashing the Party is not helpful. They aren´t listening to him anyway.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Passion, 1/5/2013 9:13:48 AM     (No. 9099907)

27 you are right about Romney, how he trashed conservatives in the nomination fight and then insisted Obama was "a nice guy" in the general. Its very dicouraging that so many L dotters are Romney kool-aid RINO types. I voted for Romney and think he is a decent man, but he was an awful nominee and this was obvious to anyone paying attention before his nomination, and Rush was paying attention.

As for the paid ads, I thought this was a conservative site where free enterprise was allowed. I guess I´m wrong.

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Reply 36 - Posted by: OperaBuff, 1/5/2013 9:14:11 AM     (No. 9099909)

Let´s remember what it is. TEA stands for Taxed Enough Already, so if you believe that, you´re part of us. We have a few people who stepped forward to coordinate a few Tea Party events, but we have no leaders. Certainly no elected leaders, though some members of Congress believe as we do.

I´m not a Glenn Beck fan. I used to listen to Rush all the time, but no more; he´s become a predictable one-note samba; I know what he´s going to say before I turn the radio on.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: stopevhillary, 1/5/2013 9:21:59 AM     (No. 9099925)

I see the usual Lucianne trolls jumped on this...I think they are paid (by Media Matters?) to say bad things about anything going on this side of the fence. Amusing actually.

Dick Armey lost in an idealogical power struggle --he was not up to the task. Clear heads, true conservative heads prevailed. Period. Of course Freedom Works advertised on Glen and Rush, DUH! Then Armey attempts to take revenge and runs to Media Matters of all places. So now we know for certain that Freedom Works was right in Kicking his Keister outa there.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: athina, 1/5/2013 9:22:34 AM     (No. 9099926)

Comments on Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck shows about Freedom works were clearly advertisements.

Re Rush´s tone post-election: I think he is no longer trying to be upbeat and optimistic because there is nothing to be optimistic about. The GOP as it stands now is not a vehicle for saving the country. He may have been truly hopeful, until this election, or he may have been putting it on, but there is no point in pretending anymore. Reality has set in and anything but that would be a disservice to his listeners.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: nonsense, 1/5/2013 9:22:40 AM     (No. 9099927)

I believe that #21 hit Bingo.

The article offered the Trolls an opportunity to jump in with their unvarying talking points about Conservative radio personalities. The Left´s lock step mass group-think talking points are sooooooo boring.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Grambo, 1/5/2013 9:46:17 AM     (No. 9099960)

“Paying Beck and Limbaugh to say nice things on the air” translates to “paying Beck and Limbaugh to read ad copy.” What’s unusual about that? If the ads weren’t effective, whose fault is that?

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Reply 41 - Posted by: O.G.´s Mom, 1/5/2013 9:47:50 AM     (No. 9099961)

Shame on Dick Armey for trying to imply that Beck was some how "bribed" to say nice things about Freedom Works. If you are a regular listener to Beck and Rush you know these were paid commercials. If one couldn´t figure that out from listening to the commercials, then they probably voted for Obama. A great example of a low information voter.

Rush was very clear about supporting conservatives first and was also clear that the trashing of conservatives during the primary battle was not going to be a good thing for anyone. I am a conservative. Romney was not my first choice during the primary season. But, as Rush and many other conservative talk show hosts did, and as many conservative voters did we supported Romney because the alternative was too horrible to comprehend. Romney was an okay campaigner who probably would have made a great president. Certainly better than Zero. For those that chide Rush and others for doing a "180" I hope you didn´t sit out this election waiting for the perfect candidate. Look at what we have for the next 4 years. I am still stunned at this election result.

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Reply 42 - Posted by: cym rhondda, 1/5/2013 9:52:38 AM     (No. 9099972)

Hey! #10 StormCnter,

Since open confession is good for the soul,and you admit to having STOPPED´listening to Limbaugh years ago,´ can we conclude that you will have no future relevant comment to make about Rush?

...And by the way, perhaps you could reference a talk show-host who does NOT attempt to manipluate his audience.

Liberal babble does not get on these blogs.




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Reply 43 - Posted by: Flightdecker, 1/5/2013 10:01:56 AM     (No. 9099999)

Just like the "Trojan Horse" Armey, the "Trolls" are doing their subversive work to cast doubt amongst us "Tea Party" people. Sounds like the "Alinsky Team" is in our midst and they always expose themselves sooner or later. Be vigilant, they are on here. Keep educating yourselves . They thrive on those who don´t!

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Reply 44 - Posted by: TruthAndJustice, 1/5/2013 10:09:13 AM     (No. 9100017)

Army was always a poor choice to represent conservatives. He is a scab and any who knew his dirty history found his presence among Tea Partiers off-putting.....many in DC knew it tainted the Tea Party....ask Brit Hume and those that road Army out of town for his dirty hand in destroying people for Clinton.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: dot66, 1/5/2013 10:11:48 AM     (No. 9100022)

´´Romney ran a simply awful general election campaign. He let Obama define him´´??? It´s called ´´obeying the law!´´ By law he was not allowed to spend big until our convention.

Rush and Hannity NEVER support an individual during primaries; a wise choice in my book. ´´Manipulates" me? Get real! Before I ever heard Rush, D-I-L described him as ´´he thinks just like WE do!´´

If you disagree with Rush, don´t insult ME by claiming I´M being manipulated; just be honest and admit you don´t agree with him or with me.



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Reply 46 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 1/5/2013 10:14:05 AM     (No. 9100028)

Dittos #24, 43, and 44.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 1/5/2013 10:41:49 AM     (No. 9100096)

So I guess this means that Limbaugh, Beck, and Armey are the REAL elites. Shady advertising deals. Multi-million dollar severance deals. Remember when conservatives knew how to think for themselves rather than having to have the talking points handed down from a man behind a microphone? The " tea party" brand has been destroyed by stupid, greedy, unprincipled pigs at the trough like Dick Armey. The original Tea Party was a spontaneous act of righteous indignation. Now it is a failed enterprise in need of a bailout.

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Reply 48 - Posted by: jrldev, 1/5/2013 10:49:58 AM     (No. 9100123)

The question is now whether this trio
"The Greedy Bunch": Armey,Beck, and Rush should be candidates for the TV documentary "Greed".

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Reply 49 - Posted by: RancherJack, 1/5/2013 10:54:19 AM     (No. 9100129)

I got no idea wth this is.

You mean politicians try to influence affairs with money?

Shut the front door ...

PS - article is by the Atlantic.

Other "headlines" by Elspeth Reeve -

Boehner Says Out Loud He Hopes Blacks And Latinos ‘Won’t Show Up’ This Election]

Just How Racist Is the ´Obama Phone´ Video?

Nerds Rush to Nate Silver´s Defense

Audio Surfaces of Paul Ryan’s Effusive Love of Ayn Rand

Fact-Checking Her Husband’s ‘Baghdad Diarist’ Stories at The New Republic

Elspeth Reeve has a new article at The Atlantic Wire called Racist Writers Are Right to Feel Threatened:

Serving Under the Army´s Most Ruthless Soldier

etc

Elspeth manufactures outrage and moral dilemas as easily as she manufactures "facts"

Why is this article grenlit by Mods?

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Reply 50 - Posted by: yuban, 1/5/2013 11:15:17 AM     (No. 9100163)

Wow, another anti-Conservative article posted by an anti-Conservative GOP member. Go figure. Looks like L.COM is going the way of Fox News. Moving to the Left will get rid of me. Not that you or Fox care.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 1/5/2013 11:17:45 AM     (No. 9100165)

Normally do not respond but correcting 43 for attscking #10 - in fact, she has been here for many years. Everyone has an opinion and free to express it without being nasty to others. BTW, I agree with her and now you can call me names, I do not care, I have been on here since this site started. Lucianne has the best blog ever.

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Reply 52 - Posted by: M2, 1/5/2013 11:23:16 AM     (No. 9100181)

#24, it appears you´ve got quite a few folks here, including me, who agree with your assessment.

And, #38, I agree with you that Rush no longer finds much to be upbeat about and I have to agree with him.

Americans have permitted all of this to happen to conservatism by not learning how to street-fight and by not demanding that conservatives stick together. Democrats, if you´ve noticed, never fight among themselves. They stay unified behind one leader who exemplifies their agenda, in this case, Obama. That´s how they win.

Conservatives MUST get over this "my conscience won´t let me vote for so-and-so", or we will continue to be hostages to the one-issue voters.

Now, if someone like Ryan or Rubio or Jindal would firmly, loudly and concisely articulate publicly what conservatism is and why it´s better for America than liberalism is, we´d be able to rally behind him.

Rush and Beck are radio people. The won´t run for office, so we need someone with their articulation and passion to get behind.

We haven´t had one of those since Reagan. Romney sure wasn´t passionate. If he was, he was unable or unwilling to convey it.

We´re drowning in our own niceness and that must end.

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Reply 53 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 1/5/2013 11:24:43 AM     (No. 9100186)

Freedom Works is another one of those outfits who claim to be the Tea Party; it is/was a small group of entrepreneurs who apparently suckered a lot of people into believing they really had something to do with the "Tea Party", and donating to their "cause", which appears to be their personal wallets.

Any "Tea Party" group that demands contributions to join, or claims to be THE "Official Tea Party" should be avoided like poop on the sidewalk.

It looks like their ads on Beck and Limbaugh didn´t raise the personal income they were hoping to get.

As for Armey, I have been unable to figure out just what he is about; he has been behaving erractically since Gingrich was deposed.


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Reply 54 - Posted by: txboss, 1/5/2013 11:28:59 AM     (No. 9100198)

Dick Armey is a jealous loser, and so is his son. Ignore him.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: dolphin, 1/5/2013 11:32:46 AM     (No. 9100207)

I´m seeing that opportunists have taken control of what was a sincere movement. I guess that is to be expected.

I wished that Rush would help us out in the primary, but I have listened to him long enough to know he never openly supports a primary candidate.

That the left was so successful in running Glenn Beck off the air should tell you all you need to know.

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Reply 56 - Posted by: lawabidingcitizen, 1/5/2013 11:52:53 AM     (No. 9100238)

Rush needs to get back to parodies, ridicule and sarcasm which were so effective against bubba. Obama is almost too easy a target for it.

Endless talking about economics and numbers make everyone´s eyes glaze over even those of us understand them.

Limbaugh used to be effective and fun to listen to now he´s just boring.

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Reply 57 - Posted by: NotaBene, 1/5/2013 11:58:39 AM     (No. 9100254)

Pity to see fighting among us. I did send Freedomworks money. Do not think they did much to help in the election. A wasted opportunity. Say what you will, Mitt Romney was a good candidate and an excellent person.

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Reply 58 - Posted by: b4lucy, 1/5/2013 12:15:16 PM     (No. 9100281)

I am a Tea Party of one...and...you just don´t want to mess with numbers like that!!!

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Reply 59 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 1/5/2013 12:19:56 PM     (No. 9100285)

I cannot vouch for the veracity of this article´s allegations. But.....I´m disappointed over the level of dialogue here this past year surrounding Mitt Romney´s candidacy and the "whys" over his failed bid for the Presidency. I voted for him, but, like many others, also had reservations about him.

As for the posters who have left, especially Photoonist and the dear Marine Capt., I miss their contributions and grieve their absence deeply. I hope they will come back.

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Reply 60 - Posted by: god of irony, 1/5/2013 12:23:30 PM     (No. 9100295)

It´s called a COMMERCIAL folks. There isn´t anything evil or wrong about it.

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Reply 61 - Posted by: fritzilou, 1/5/2013 12:25:06 PM     (No. 9100299)

I don´t believe that Rush or Levin were in any way contributing factors in Romney´s loss. In fact, they may have lead more moderates over to our side, since Rush and Levin are so demonized by the left. The reason we lost has many factors, some of which are the left wing dominance of the culture, the mainstream press love of Obama, union and corporate handouts by Obama, lots of investors who love the low interest rates so they can borrow cheap in order to invest more and more, more, more reasons. Don´t forget the dominance of the big cities by the Democrats who turned out 125 percent of their voters.



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Reply 62 - Posted by: busterman, 1/5/2013 12:34:20 PM     (No. 9100322)

I too agree there´s no ´leader´ of the Tea Party....or at least there shouldn´t be one. Read the book, ´The Starfish and the Spider´. The true Tea Party is, should be, a starfish. Every other organization is a spider.

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Reply 63 - Posted by: aposematic, 1/5/2013 12:39:08 PM     (No. 9100331)

Personnally, I never trusted Freedom Works, specifically Dick Armey; may now give them a second look...

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Reply 64 - Posted by: loveUSA, 1/5/2013 12:50:08 PM     (No. 9100365)

Anyone who listens to talk radio these days know that commercials are now done in the middle of the program. We hate that technique, but apparently it pays more money to do that.

We are very sad that Armey is bitter and taking revenge. People, pray for Dick Armey, he will need it. He will reap what he has sown.

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Reply 65 - Posted by: TXknitter, 1/5/2013 12:58:28 PM     (No. 9100380)

I heard stories about Armey many years ago. It always seemed that people of integrity who were active in the Texas political scene all had the same opinion of Armey.
Do not blame the Tea Party for him. He merely swooped in to do what he has always done best - pile up the dough for Dick Armey, Inc. He is indicative of the longtime RINOs, not conservatives. It amazes me that any conservative with even a little discernment would ever have trusted this creepy man.

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Reply 66 - Posted by: lzboy, 1/5/2013 1:07:43 PM     (No. 9100395)

#53 your length of time one this web site is meaningless and irrelevant.#10 shouldn´t comment on someone she doesn´t listen to.

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Reply 67 - Posted by: PageTurner, 1/5/2013 1:08:08 PM     (No. 9100396)

So Media Matters and Mrs. Scott Beauchamp (aka Elspeth Reeve) sit on the sidelines, feasting on the carrion. This is retch-worthy.

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Reply 68 - Posted by: dot66, 1/5/2013 1:22:58 PM     (No. 9100421)

#54 is 1000 percent correct!!!!! Ds circle the wagons; Rs form a circular firing squad.

Romney was not my first choice either, but I sincerely believe he would have been an excellent president; Mormons I know who have seen him in action told me years ago what a good man he is.

I´m sickened by the ´´I CAN´T vote for so-and-so, and I WON´T vote for what´s-his-name!´´ folks that too often rear their ugly heads.

Question for the holier-than-thou ilk: Do you agree 100 percent with your spouse?

Your siblings?

Your parents?

No?

But you still keep THEM!

Do you realize how INFANTILE you sound when you demand perfection from a candidate? You´re not demonstrating your purity or superior integrity; you are demonstrating childishness--taking your marbles and running home.

If enough Rs had crawled over Broken Glass like we did to cast our vote, America would now be on the path to recovery. BTW--I don´t think the phrase is ´´may the PERFECT man win.´´ I think the phrase is ´´may the BEST man win.´´




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Reply 69 - Posted by: The Patriot Code, 1/5/2013 1:24:39 PM     (No. 9100423)

Rush and Levin are the only radio personalities that I listen to these days. Rush is a national treasure and does more to resist The Regime than any other entity on the planet. It is tragic that the GOP Elite do not heed any of his wisdom or advice. Hannity´s show drives me crazy because he allows so many idiot, low info 0bama-voter phone callers to get on the air. Beck did some pretty good work when he was at Fox News, but he has been disappointing of late. For instance, he now says that gays should be allowed to marry. Neal Boortz is retiring, and he will be missed. He´s a straight shooter and a race realist. Herman Cain is set to assume Boortz´ airtime, and he exhausts me. Laura Ingraham is awesome but currently off the air. I sometimes worry that her relationship with O´Reilly will tamp down some of the fire in her belly.
As for Dick Armey, I smelled a rat when he elbowed his way into leadership positions of organizations that were trying to capitalize on the Tea Party phenomenon. Now he gets paid $400,000 a year to stay away, so he goes to libturd media groups and tries to sully the names of good men.
God save America because nothing else can.

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Reply 70 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 1/5/2013 1:48:30 PM     (No. 9100456)

# 9 Amen . Limbaugh manipulates his audience as much as the MSM manipulates theirs.
He keeps his listeners agitated and uninformed on what is actually happening with Republicans ,
so they´ll continue to listen
and buy his products.
It´s not about promoting conservative values and if it is, he´s doing a lousy job.
The country has actually shifted left , but, his audience has shifted further right.
Limbaugh has hated every Republican nominee and demeaned them since 1992 beginning with GHW Bush.
He lied about Fluke for 3 days
( not a single word he said for 3 days about her testimony was true , not one )
which validated the meme of the Republican´s war on women and cost Republicans votes.
He told Howard Kurtz in an interview in Feb 2008 ,
that if McCain became the Republican nominee
" ..I believe the country will suffer with either Hillary, Obama or McCain, I would just as soon the Democrats take the hit . ."
" And I would prefer not to have conservative Republicans in the Congress paralyzed
by having to support, out of party loyalty,
a Republican president
who is not conservative."
Limbaugh got his wish with Obamacare, out of control spending and debt, Sotomayor, Kagan , Stimulus and on and on.
FTA- Armey´s point is that Freedom Works is a financial disaster .
" Armey reached out to Media Matters to explain how the group wastes money by trying to raise money through radio hosts Beck and Rush Limbaugh. "

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Reply 71 - Posted by: bugger, 1/5/2013 1:58:42 PM     (No. 9100470)

Yikes, the site pests are out in earnest. We are in a death struggle my friends. The left tries to infiltrate everything. When that fails, they sow the seeds of doubt and discontent. I started listening to Rush in 2000, he didn´t change a thing I already knew/felt. It´s just nice listening to a program that makes sense and speaks the truth. Note to liberal free speech nazi´s: Even if you could get rid of Rush, we´d still be here and still know what we know.

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Reply 72 - Posted by: sayitisntso, 1/5/2013 2:01:38 PM     (No. 9100472)

Elspeth Reeve says so but why should I believe it?

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Reply 73 - Posted by: Pluperfect, 1/5/2013 2:08:13 PM     (No. 9100482)

Are we back to calling each other "trolls" and "site pests" and deciding who can or cannot express an opinion counter to our own? Isn´t a forum for free discussion (within civility limits)? And if I don´t like your opinion, do I get to rhetorically slap you around?

For the record, I don´t like Limbaugh, either. I think that´s still allowed in this country.

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Reply 74 - Posted by: DanvilleBill, 1/5/2013 2:13:30 PM     (No. 9100492)

Yes, Rush has become a bore.

And so is this thread.

Fortunately, we got some good FOOTBALL comin´ up today, tomorrow and Monday night!

Go Pack and go Irish!!






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Reply 75 - Posted by: belwhatter, 1/5/2013 2:24:52 PM     (No. 9100516)

Taxed Enough Already should be everyone´s mantra.It is not a party.It is a moral and constitutionally based philosphy. I´m glad The Dick has been hoist with his own petard. Anyone who puts self interest above all else is not fit to be a figurehead of anything. Like many other posters I voted against Obama - Romney is a good man, undeniably, but his campaign was close to woeful, as was McCains before him. I had high hopes of a change in the leadership of the House republicans but the malaise has not been not cured, just perpetuated. There has to be another way to manage the potential for greatness that is the United States of America.The present model has allowed itself to be destroyed and the incumbent is hastening the destruction at an alarming rate. Rush and Glenn still lead in shining the light on the political dungheaps of which the media is a major player.Too often on this site, unpleasant commercials with photos and messages appear in the margins or between postings - one has to put up with these rude appearances presumably as important to maintaining the viability of this site.

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Reply 76 - Posted by: thelmalou, 1/5/2013 3:25:50 PM     (No. 9100587)

a) Rush does not manipulate men (when I have time to listen to him); he simply reflect what I already think, and generally articulates it better than I do.

2) Rush never supports people in primaries. The only error he may have made this primary season was calling Sandra Fluke a slut. And I question if that was even an error in light of the fact that the party that booed the reintroduction of God and Israel back into the party platform won the election.

c) I heard some of the FreedomWorks spots on both Glenn and Rush´s shows. They were paid ads.

d) Anyone who´s been paying attention fo rhte last 15 years knows what Dick Armey is.


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Reply 77 - Posted by: donnaclaire, 1/5/2013 4:54:56 PM     (No. 9100653)

Huh? I´m going to have to read this over a couple more times in order to understand this article. Is it just me? I hope not.

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Reply 78 - Posted by: cincinnati whig, 1/5/2013 5:55:14 PM     (No. 9100723)

If this doesn´t sound a little bit familiar, you need to watch this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MTj8hd2kbRc

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Reply 79 - Posted by: MDMuskrat, 1/5/2013 7:11:56 PM     (No. 9100776)

This thread is informative...and very disgusting.

I should´ve stopped reading at #7.

Elspeth Reeve, writing in the Atlantic, is bought to us by this predictable OP. Thereafter, like performing seals, many of us join in the bash-fest, egged on by those of a like mind to the OP.

The end result? Another circular firing squad within the stupid party. And don´t give me this cr*p about ´healthy debate.´ We are being played!



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Reply 80 - Posted by: Libertygal, 1/5/2013 8:25:54 PM     (No. 9100813)

To me, this is just further confirmation that our goverment has been taken over in a coup.

Tsk me if you will, but every aspect of our system has been infiltrated and taken over. Divide and conquer, indeed, the imasculinization of our military, and now an arms grab.

Armey is only a smalk piece of the puzzle. Stand back and look at the big picture. Once it hits you, it is really terrifying. A conspiracy theory? No, sadly, a conspiracy reality, but people are too focused on the trees to see the forest.


We are being taken over in a coup from within. All aspects, from production, government, food, gas, military, weapons, healthcare. We just need more people to see it, to then be motivated to DO something about it.

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Reply 81 - Posted by: so_free_me, 1/5/2013 9:35:49 PM     (No. 9100870)

No respect here for Dick Armey whose aspersions about Beck and Limbaugh are ridiculous and obviously an attempt to take them down.

No one can take away my tea party credentials because I gave them to myself way back in April of 2009. I know what it means and what I have done. The so-called leadership of the "Tea Party" are not my leaders.

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Reply 82 - Posted by: Muguy, 1/5/2013 10:02:34 PM     (No. 9100901)

Let´s face it-- FreedomWorks bought advertising on many conservative shows.

We were all in hopes that the 2010 mid-terms were not a fluke and that there was something brewing in the so-called silent majority that would have caused a similar event the the 2012 national elections.

I think that while most were not strongly FOR Romney, we had little choice than to give as much support to him over the dictator/socialist Obama. Mittens RAN as a conservative, but once he had the nomination in hand, he moved leftward to attract the "moderates" and the "undecided independents".

Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, and Co. only then began to heavily support Mittens when they realized that this stragegy was the only thing left--to try to get out as many non-obamaists out as possible out of desperation!

Beck was always in the tank for his fellow Mormon, so its absurd to think he took "payola" to support him.

Former Rep. Dick Armey is shrewd, but the young skulls full of mush at FreedomWorks today are still trying to create coalitions and new, younger activists to take over for the "old bulls" as Levin calls them who are almost all unprincipled RINOS.

Regardless, if we don´t get some thinking people who are grounded in the Constitutional form of {r}epublicanism starting at the local level and bubbling up to the state and national level, the "low information" (about the Constitution) who are totally driven by pop culture and not by principle, then the Republic is lost for good.

The "tea party" moniker is for individuals who coalesce as a national force, NOT as more of the corrupt same-old same-old.

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