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Topic: Ex-Burglars Say Newspaper’s Gun Map Would’ve Made the Job Easier, Safer |
Ex-Burglars Say Newspaper’s Gun Map Would’ve Made the Job Easier, Safer
Fox News, by Jana Winter
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Posted By:loosbolt, 1/5/2013 1:58:37 AM
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| Reformed crooks say the New York newspaper that published a map of names and addresses of gun owners did a great service – to their old cronies in the burglary trade. The information published online by the Journal-News, a daily paper serving the New York suburbs of Westchester, Rockland and Putnam counties, could be highly useful to thieves in two ways, former burglars told FoxNews.com. Crooks looking to avoid getting shot now know which targets are soft and those who need weapons know where they can steal them. “That was the most asinine article I’ve ever seen,” said Walter T. Shaw,
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
ColonialAmerican1623, 1/5/2013 2:07:13 AM (No. 9099545)
"That was the most asinine article I’ve ever seen,” said Walter T. Shaw, "
Me too. Anyone that is robbed in the area should sue the paper.
What happened to the woman that they published her name and address in order to get even when this first appeared in the paper ?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
thelmalou, 1/5/2013 2:10:09 AM (No. 9099548)
First lawsuit filed against the newspaper after some thug shoots an unarmed homeowner in 5, 4, 3, 2... Morons.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
ocjim, 1/5/2013 2:23:11 AM (No. 9099559)
Bankruptcy and lawsuits are the only limits arrogant Leftist journal-twits understand. With hellbent Leftists likes these, it´s their very Godlessness that allows them to think they have the right to do as they please. Time for a really good smack-down for these jerks, either legally or financially. For starters, who are their advertisers? Time to get in touch with these advertisers, me thinks.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
PChristopher, 1/5/2013 3:08:43 AM (No. 9099572)
Anyone involved with that story and map should be jailed for reckless endangerment...to start with.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
4Justice, 1/5/2013 3:36:28 AM (No. 9099578)
This is exactly what we all said
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
flatwater, 1/5/2013 3:42:52 AM (No. 9099579)
If you´d like to contact the publisher, her name is Janet Hasson.
Janet Hasson lives in a $1.4 Million-dollar house. Her address is 3 Gate House Lane, Mamaroneck, NY 10534. She is obviously unarmed.
If you´d like to stop by, here is a link to interior and exterior pictures of her house. (Don´t want you knocking on the wrong door!)
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3-Gate-House-Ln-Mamaroneck-NY-10543/33051179_zpid/
If you can´t stop by Janet´s house in person, we just know she´d love to hear from you anyway! Here´s her phone number!
(914) 694-5204
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Trigger2, 1/5/2013 4:16:56 AM (No. 9099587)
That name, address, pictures, should be published on the Burglar´s Website.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Spidey, 1/5/2013 4:38:11 AM (No. 9099598)
Here you have people trying to do the right thing and register their guns,only to be sabotaged by some maniacal left wing anti-gun zealot with too much time and money on her hands.Everybody in these counties are at some level of elevated risk now.
The left wants to shame,embarrass or bully people into complying with their upside down rules of the road.
The only thing that could make this hole in the wall paper any worse is if they´re taxpayer financed.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
pineledger, 1/5/2013 5:22:40 AM (No. 9099618)
Well played, 6!!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
srhcb, 1/5/2013 6:17:07 AM (No. 9099646)
I call BS!
Filing a gun purchase application doesn´t mean a person actually purchased a gun.
If permit applicants names are publicized, the application is like the "This Home Protected By ... " burglar alarm system stickers you can buy to paste on your front door. Cheap insurance.
From a potential criminal´s point of view, there´s no way to know if the homeowner already had weapons, and didn´t need to get a permit.
Any criminals not able to figure this out will get what they deserve.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
hamrman, 1/5/2013 7:00:55 AM (No. 9099680)
Duh...!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
uno, 1/5/2013 7:15:16 AM (No. 9099693)
If I lived over there and got burglarized I would seriously consider filing a law suit against this rag for aiding and abetting criminals by giving them tools to do their job better.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
sagman, 1/5/2013 7:24:49 AM (No. 9099703)
I live in Connecticut. A legislator (lefty, naturally) has called for the state to make available to the public a registry of all permit holders in the state.
I don´t think it´s going anywhere, but this is Connecticut, so. . . .
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Kitty Myers, 1/5/2013 7:28:41 AM (No. 9099709)
It´s like that picture of the sign on a gun owner´s front lawn that reads My next door neighbor wants to ban all guns...Their house is NOT ARMED!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Velox, 1/5/2013 7:34:30 AM (No. 9099716)
If anything, posting in public those houses that have guns, makes them safer from break in. If I did not have a gun permit I would be worried that my name was not published. The publishing will have exactly the opposite effect the anti gun folks wanted.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
VeritasMatters, 1/5/2013 7:56:03 AM (No. 9099746)
For those of you who have not seen this -- here´s an appropriate chuckle:
DUE TO THE PRICE INCREASE
ON AMMUNITION,
DO NOT EXPECT A
WARNING SHOT !
Thank you for your understanding...
Cheers from an alarmed home and armed homeowner in TN!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
VeritasMatters, 1/5/2013 7:57:46 AM (No. 9099748)
oops, my apologies for not changing to lower case letters.
Due to the price increase
on ammunition,
Do not expect a
warning shot !
Thank you for your understanding
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
LZK, 1/5/2013 8:12:31 AM (No. 9099778)
The libbie/boomers haven´t a clue about the "real" world....
AND -- the rest of US take it in the belly each time they pontificate their "socialism"........as displayed by their agenda driven "gun/thingey"....
The "burglars" might think twice -- however -- not all citizens were stupid enough to register their firearms....
It´s a crap/shoot with each door or window they jimmy....
LZK
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
cake crumb, 1/5/2013 8:14:04 AM (No. 9099784)
Just think: Connecticut´s governor wants to pass a law making it mandatory to publish the names of gun owners. He even hints it´s that or banning guns.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Chuzzles, 1/5/2013 8:29:53 AM (No. 9099817)
The most amusing thing about the idiot paper for me is that they hired armed security for their building because all the people protesting their rights violations are mad at them and they need protection!
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy, 1/5/2013 8:31:57 AM (No. 9099823)
Two can play that game. Let´s go ahead and publish the names, phone numbers, email addresses, and residence addresses of the news media people (newspaper, radio, television, and internet) and top it off with publishing the same information for elected public officials (Past and Present), law enforcement, union bosses...where do we stop?
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
govlawyer, 1/5/2013 8:40:04 AM (No. 9099843)
NY is not like most of the US when it comes to handguns or firearms in general.
The permitees identified on the map are people who have a pistol permit--it is not a list of people with purchase documents, since you can´t get a pistol purchase document without being licensed to possess a handgun in the first place.
While it´s true you don´t have to purchase a handgun once you obtain a purchase document, the fact is you have to buy the document from the issuing authority, so one usually pays for and leaves the pistol, goes to the PD to get the doc and then returns and picks up the pistol.
They will not release the pistol to you without it, as the document is then altered by the gun shop to be specific to the serial number of the handgun, and it serves as your license to possess the handgun until you return to the licensing agency with it and the handgun to be formally added to your permit.
If you possess a handgun in NY that is not on your permit, you´re guilty of a crime, (just like David Gregory).
Long guns don´t need a permit.
I just love NY, the liberal sinkhole I live in.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Bad Dog, 1/5/2013 8:51:37 AM (No. 9099871)
And our forefathers brought a revolution over a tea tax.........
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
faith_and_reason, 1/5/2013 9:01:42 AM (No. 9099889)
This newspaper has shown exactly why our Constitution protects the right of the people to own and carry unlicensed, unregistered military-capable weapons and ammunition.
Not locked up, by the way.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Hobbiest, 1/5/2013 9:23:26 AM (No. 9099929)
I am always amused at how fast urban liberals lose their bias towards gun control after they move to their rural paradise where it can take the cops over an hour to respond to a 911 call. Unfortunately most never consider the same response time too often applies to the inner cities in the municipalities they came from.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
cake crumb, 1/5/2013 9:57:42 AM (No. 9099984)
IMO,the SCOTUS decision on Lawrence vs. the State of Texas needs to be overturned immediately: if the perps at the Journal aren´t arrested and charged, there IS no right to privacy to protect. The cop was right all along and the gay guy was guilty. In fact, all laws pertaining in any way whatever, to personal privacy, must be scuttled immediately.
This folks, is called a slippery slope.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
mythman, 1/5/2013 9:58:32 AM (No. 9099987)
Once the gun owners´ names and addresses are published, the left´s logic will be that since gun thieves may now target those homes, the guns should be confiscated to keep them out of the hands of criminals.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
TheMotherCO, 1/5/2013 9:59:13 AM (No. 9099989)
Way back years ago my Dad gave me a gun - a revolver and I lived in NY and asked the sheriff what I should do to get a license, he took my info and he walked it through the process and the judge who was also a Pubbie signed it and then we went out and had coffee. Actually, back then, no one cared whether you had a gun or not. It is still none of their business - newspaper should be treated to a blitz of toy rifle and pistol gifts.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Holeymoses, 1/5/2013 10:09:09 AM (No. 9100016)
Great #6. I can tell you are really riled up. I love pay back when it´s deserved.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
OhMy, 1/5/2013 10:10:57 AM (No. 9100019)
Did you folks hear Mark Levin yesterday? He discussed the bill of rights in the constitution saying it was there to protect the citizens from a tyrannical government and pointing out that this applies to the second amendment. The right to bear arms was put there as a last resort so that citizens can protect themselves from a tyrannical government. We are getting there with all branches of government which should check each others power being corrupted by the same statists. This is the same reason that communist governments always try to confiscate guns - they want the individual to be defenceless! Many jurisdictions don´t even let an old person have pepper spray for self defence!
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
RancherJack, 1/5/2013 10:42:48 AM (No. 9100100)
#5 squared
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
cheeflo, 1/5/2013 11:18:26 AM (No. 9100166)
I just read an article on Fox about how prison inmates, now privy to addresses of prison guards, are intimidating and threatening those guards. There are about 8,000 active and retired NYPD officers living in Rockford County.
In their misguided attempt to make a point (an uninformed and hysterical point, I might add), the newspaper has now put lives at risk. Doin´ good ain´t got no end.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Me?Opinionated?Nah!, 1/5/2013 11:57:56 AM (No. 9100251)
Journalists of the Liberal-Progressive Persuasion.
Just when you think they couldn’t say or do anything more dim-witted than they’ve said or done in the past, they come up with this brainstorm.
Operation Hate Thy Neighbor!
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Pinchem, 1/5/2013 12:08:04 PM (No. 9100274)
"Traspassers Shall Be Shot Survivors Shall Be Shot Again"
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
mozey, 1/5/2013 12:22:33 PM (No. 9100293)
Yep, 22 is right. *Long guns don´t need a permit*. Just need a nice little light shotgun which shoots both shot and shell and holds three loads of either. Go out of NY to some sane State and get one for a little over hundred and fifty bucks. Get some ammo while there. And, by the way, you don´t have to go through months of elaborate target practice to become a seasoned shooter. You don´t need to place your little shotgun up against your shoulder and squint at the target which is coming at you, hoping you´ll hit your target. No, indeed. Just hold your little shotgun tight against your side, on your hip, like Clint Eastwood would do. Then blast away. No target practice necessary because you will hit anything in front of you. Go for it New Yorkers. New York will rise again.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
busterman, 1/5/2013 12:27:19 PM (No. 9100305)
This morning I met up with some like-minded friends for breakfast at IHOP then we walked across the street to the month gun show. The line was close to 500 and they hadn´t even opened the doors yet.
Of course, this is in Texas. But still. So we decided to go to a local gun store instead.
Last week while in a large national chain Sporting Goods store I walked over to the gun section. There was only one guy behind the counter but he had four people filling out purchase forms. No way I was going to take a look at one of the pistols on display for quite a while so I just left.
My point? They can do whatever they want to try and ´control´ guns. What they need to understand is that we, as Americans, will not submit. They can come with whatever force they want with whatever ´law´ our inept, corrupt Congress passed. But we will not submit.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
ivehadit, 1/5/2013 12:40:35 PM (No. 9100338)
Some industrious soul has put up a website in Janet´s name. L.O.L!!!!!!!! The ganders are cookin´!!!!!
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Hoosier, 1/5/2013 1:05:04 PM (No. 9100390)
When the second amendment was passed, a very common long gun in the hands of the citizenry was the Kentucky (or Pennsylvania) Long Rifle. It was vastly superior to the Brown Bess muskets used by the British Army at the time. Based on that fact, I see no reason for the citizenry of today to own an AR-15.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
tipover, 1/5/2013 2:12:38 PM (No. 9100490)
No 38; you forgot the /s.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
Shucky, 1/5/2013 2:23:32 PM (No. 9100512)
everyone responsible ought to be fired, and everyone in that region should sue them all and the paper for invasion of privacy and rackless endangerment. these malicious leftists have gone from being instrusive to being malicious on this issue.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
Adam, 1/5/2013 2:44:37 PM (No. 9100539)
this was the very first thing I thought when I saw that that newspaper had published the list. Of course a crook is going to check the list! the paper thinks the gun owners are the danger. it never occurs to them that it´s the BAD guys with guns who are the problem. so they ended up helping the bad guys with guns. they think the problem is just guns.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
Bill O Rights, 1/5/2013 4:27:58 PM (No. 9100631)
Don´t wait to be robbed,every person whose name and address was published by the paper should file suit for intentional infliction of emotional distress. We all know the real reason the paper published that information was to try and embarrass people. Intentional infliction of emotional distress is an intentional tort and therefore the injured party can recovery punitive damages.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
flatwater, 1/5/2013 4:49:51 PM (No. 9100649)
The addresses and phone numbers of the reporter, editor, publisher, and the person who created the interactive map can all be found at....
http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/tag/janet-hasson-journal-news/
If you are so inclined, feel free to post these people´s addresses and phone numbers anywhere you see fit!
For instance, the information at this link tells me that the reporter, Dwight R Worley, lives at
23006 139 Ave Springfield Gardens, NY 11413
and his phone number is (718) 527-0832.
I´m sure he´d love you to contact him!
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
Charactercounts, 1/5/2013 4:52:05 PM (No. 9100650)
#32, Drudge is linking to that Fox article. As you say, there are thousands of NYPD active and retired in Rockland, and many more in Westchester, where the newspaper also published gun owners. In Putnam, where the County Clerk is refusing to release the information, there are also many active and retired law enforcement. They can´t be happy about this, since criminals with a bent for revenge now have their addresses.
In Nassau County (another suburb of NYC), a few years back, the county placed real estate records on line, searchable by name, showing addresses, home photos, and floor plans. Police officers and public personalities were enraged, and the county was forced to change the way records are listed.
I will be surprised if the same thing doesn´t happen here.
Anyone subscribing to a Gannett paper should cancel, too.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
rambo77, 1/5/2013 6:25:16 PM (No. 9100746)
Here in Texas this has already been taken care of. For a complete list of all gun owners you are provided a very handy list called a Phone Book. Everyone has some and a telephone, too.
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
Veritas2009, 1/5/2013 6:26:07 PM (No. 9100747)
Multi-spectral(sonar,IR,radar) fused mini-claymore unattended home defense devices $50.00/rd, money back for every non-dead creep.??
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
Nevadadad46, 1/5/2013 6:34:28 PM (No. 9100756)
Until idiots have to stand responsibility for their actions, this kind of irresponsible journalism will continue. If I had the money, I would take out full page ads saying to the public at large, "Anyone who is harmed in anyway by the actions of the so-called "Journalists" should call me- I will retain an attorney for them and help in every way to bring the law suits against the media and media persons directly responsible." Then watch the chill go up the yellow spines of these liberal idiots who published this list.
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
larryp, 1/5/2013 7:31:27 PM (No. 9100792)
remember the Press won´t sell any news space and the tv won´t sell program time tot the NRA.Icalled a radio station and askekd that. the host said the above.I just diden´t know why the NRA didn´t articulate their position. Blocked out.
Like Levin says that there are millions of guns in the country and 99.8% of the owners even more are law-abiding and have done nothing with those guns.
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
philemon1967, 1/5/2013 10:22:30 PM (No. 9100924)
Just desserts would be a burgler maimed by a homeowner the newspaper mislabeled as being unarmed, successfully winning a suit for the Journal publishing inaccurate information resulting in bodily harm to its criminal reader.
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
mamabear, 1/6/2013 12:10:22 AM (No. 9101000)
Can these people get together and file a class action law suit against the newspaper? What a $$ boon for some law firm!
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Reply 51 - Posted by:
ocjim, 1/6/2013 5:56:35 AM (No. 9101084)
The problem is with the law and specifically with the term ´´public access´´ vis a vis vast technological changes. The laws were written years ago when public access meant that on a onesy-twosy basis, you have access to the public information. Internet, Facebook, Google Maps et al. have changed the meaning of public access, as the usage of these technologies changes the intent and nature of those old laws. For now, judges need to protect the public, and enforce the onesy-twosy access, but forbid the access to entire data bases. Then we must proceed legislatively to update the laws to codify new, safe and sane access to these data.
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