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A Soaring Homicide Rate,
a Divide in Chicago

New York Times, by Monica Davey

Original Article

Posted By:jackson, 1/3/2013 8:21:10 AM

CHICAGO — This city’s 471st homicide of 2012 happened in the middle of the day, in the middle of a crowd, on the steps of the church where the victim of homicide 463 was being eulogized. Sherman Miller, who was 21, collapsed amid gunfire not far from the idling hearse that was there to carry away James Holman, 32, shot to death a week earlier. The funeral shooting at St. Columbanus Catholic Church on the South Side left neighbors fretting that no place, not even a church, felt safe any longer. “It’s become the Wild Wild West,”

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America is such a polarized nation. FTA "...Chicago has long been a segregated place, richer and whiter on the North Side." Hard to tell exactly, but I think the Ms. Davey thinks the white side of town needs to catch up. You know, to be fair

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: MisterDickens, 1/3/2013 8:29:38 AM     (No. 9096104)

Liberalism at work.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: graniteman2009, 1/3/2013 8:36:01 AM     (No. 9096112)

God help the liberals if the crime spree hits North Chicago. Rahm will not know what hit him.

Its easay to be liberal when it does not impact your life.


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Reply 3 - Posted by: NorthernDog, 1/3/2013 8:37:08 AM     (No. 9096115)

I will never improve much until the liberal lifestyle is rejected on a wholesale level. Until then broken families, government dependency, and blame shifting will rule the day, along with the violence that produces, will rule the day,

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Reply 4 - Posted by: AltaD, 1/3/2013 8:41:14 AM     (No. 9096124)

They´ve produced a very odd map of Chicago for this article. In their map there are no Hispanic neighborhoods, just majority Black, White, Asian and Other. Most of the neighborhoods that they have marked as being majority White are in fact Hispanic and they´re home to Hispanic gangs and gang killings.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Manitouman, 1/3/2013 8:45:22 AM     (No. 9096133)

That wouldn´t have happened in the so called Wild West.
The shooter would have to have been fall down stupid drunk to try it.
If he´d have tried it he´d have been turned into Swiss cheese.
The Jesse James gang raid on Northfield, Mn didn´t turn out too well for the lawless.
Hhmmm?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: neanderthal, 1/3/2013 8:56:47 AM     (No. 9096160)

No, it´s not the wild west. It´s the Congo.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: MOBeef4u, 1/3/2013 9:00:46 AM     (No. 9096171)

Interesting point about using "other" instead of Hispanic.
I guess all the rich, north-side whites are going into those south-side neighborhoods to do their killing.
I grew up in Lincoln Square. It´s my understanding that it´s pretty upscale now, but then it was just working class, German, Irish, Polish and increasingly Greek. Everyone got along fine. I have little desire to return to my roots. Parts of the South Side, not all, had a bad rep even then. Whites didn´t go there after dark. Nothing new, just worse.
As long as they ignore the real reasons that young men have become savages, (it´s not whitey´s fault) things will only get worse.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 1/3/2013 9:09:25 AM     (No. 9096190)

A map of gang territories would be more helpful.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: secondtimelucky, 1/3/2013 9:11:24 AM     (No. 9096193)

author doesn´t have much of a handle on the demo in Chicago. As another dotter adds, the west side is heavily Hispanic and gang controlled. Most of the violence is black on black or black on hispanic. And for the author to interview one person on the near north claiming it´s the ´´garden of eden´´ is almost laughable. tell that to the north side beach goers who were attacked in summertime ´´wildings´´.

Born and raised in Chicago - I can confirm that there are numerous neighborhoods where I´ve never been. Much of that is personal safety related but a lot of it is life in Chicago. People tend to stay in their own general area for various reasons. That´s the way that city has always been. Until I met my husband he had never spent much time on the north side - he still gets lost driving there!

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Reply 10 - Posted by: mickturn, 1/3/2013 9:15:10 AM     (No. 9096201)

Arm all the ´good citizens´ and this will stop overnight! Libs just don´t care, if it doesn´t fit their moronic agenda you are expendable.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Halfvast Conspirator, 1/3/2013 9:22:11 AM     (No. 9096222)

#4 those must be "white Hispanics"

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Reply 12 - Posted by: philemon1967, 1/3/2013 9:31:51 AM     (No. 9096241)

Monica Davey, like other useless liberal journalists, cannot differentiate correlation from causality, and provide us with no useful information to deal with the devastation of Chicago´s inner city.

If material poverty causes murderous behavior, then areas of white poor in parts of the Appalachian & South would similar rates but it doesn´t. And media apathy is NOT the CAUSE of the increased black-on-black killing but the EFFECT. Even bleeding heart reporters get jaded after a while from reporting on black violence. It´s called desensitization, Rev Brooks, not racism.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: philemon1967, 1/3/2013 9:32:41 AM     (No. 9096242)


I submit that lack of black fathers married to their babies´ mamas correlates with and is causal in the:

1) reduction of family income & wealth

2) absence of respect of the law and normal social mores due to lack of respectable male authority figures in the crucial years for young men.

3) the relationship between 1 & 2 is more like concurrent effects of liberals war against the traditional family unit rather then a cause & effect one.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: skedaddle, 1/3/2013 9:46:59 AM     (No. 9096271)

Why are white liberals so upset over minority communities running things the way they see fit? I thought liberals believed that all lifestyle choices should be equally revered (except for Christians)?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: LouD, 1/3/2013 9:55:56 AM     (No. 9096300)

#5, the James gang would probably have succeeded if they had raided Chicago. Small communities usually have a tendency to solve their own troubles.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: stablemoney, 1/3/2013 10:04:05 AM     (No. 9096321)

All are Obama´s sons. Let him worry about it.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: laotzu, 1/3/2013 10:42:01 AM     (No. 9096416)

"No, it´s not the wild west. It´s the Congo."

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

We have a winner.

The Wild West was an area thinly populated by highly motivated, rugged individualists, who took responsibility for their own safety and security, and didn´t wait for a government representative to impose order on their universe. They didn´t have the leisure time necessary to create a modern dysfunctional system like Chicago.

Chicago is a Somalian tribal state, where all illicit activity and social dysfunction is fueled by a torrent of government largess funded by taxes levied on the productive class.

It´s just like all the other tribal states that arise based on economies funded by outside free money, rather than an internal sense of industry. A local, highly immoral, hierarchy soon follows to divert and control the government largess for personal gain.





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Reply 18 - Posted by: provide, 1/3/2013 10:42:39 AM     (No. 9096417)

The police chief seemed more concerned with gun purchases than murders. Go ahead, elect him again.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: nimby, 1/3/2013 11:06:59 AM     (No. 9096476)

I thought that they all held hands and sang Kumbaya!!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: OdinsAcolyte, 1/3/2013 11:10:03 AM     (No. 9096483)

As bad as Juarez.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: msjena, 1/3/2013 11:16:52 AM     (No. 9096501)

They must be counting Hispanics as whites because the Hispanic presence in Chicago is big and growing. Right now, Hispanics outnumber blacks in the Chicago public schools. But what is significant not who populates the low crime districts but who populates the high crime ones. And this author is right about the white areas on the North side--people are oblivious to the murder and crime rate on the South and West sides.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Freeloader, 1/3/2013 11:26:42 AM     (No. 9096523)

Next time Chi-Town, think twice before "pulling the lever" for a clueless leftist mayor educated at Madame Hubata´s Evanston School of Ballet.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 1/3/2013 11:34:30 AM     (No. 9096537)

Well, more than 700 gun murders is okay, I guess, so long as the community has good gun control in place so that law abiding citizens don´t have guns. Just imagine what the murder rate would be if that were the case! sc/o

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 1/3/2013 11:53:20 AM     (No. 9096565)

The article map is very helpful. The next time I am in Chicago I´ll know which areas are safe (O´Hare Airport) and which areas to avoid (most everywhere else).

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Reply 25 - Posted by: NYbob, 1/3/2013 11:53:35 AM     (No. 9096566)

#17 is an example of why I spend too much time reading all the posts on many Lucianne threads. Very well said, but unfortunately NO one in the media will be able to distill the facts into anything like your pithy post.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: lavalette, 1/3/2013 2:08:16 PM     (No. 9096745)

If a murder occurs in the white areas, the populace demands police action. If police action to suppress crime is attempted in the black areas, the populace screams racism and demands the police leave their children alone.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Blackeagle, 1/3/2013 4:05:05 PM     (No. 9096948)

Agree, #17´s post provides the probable key insight into the economic dynamics of the modern urban ghetto - government money. I would really like to see some links to similar insights.

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