The New York newspaper that drew criticism for publishing the names and addresses of hundreds of legal gun permit holders is doubling down by publishing the personal information of even more law-abiding gun owners. To great criticism, the Journal News published an interactive map showing the names and addresses of the legal gun owners in Westchester and Rockland counties just before Christmas. Now the paper has announced it will next publish the names and addresses of permit-holders in Putnam County with an eye toward eventually politicizing the names and addresses of every gun owner in the state.
Get real, #9. Publishing those names was nothing more than a grandstanding gotcha. Totally political crap by some lefties thinking they are scoring points. Gotta wonder if they will have the same convictions when their paper goes belly up and they cannot get jobs.
True, its a matter of public record. However, the intention of registering a gun was largely due to law enforcement. And there is a difference between you going to the county and doing a search and a news paper publishing everything.
Perhaps Briebart could publish the divorce records of everyone in that county....after all its in the public record. Or perhaps publish an interactive map of everyone that´s been adopted... or every minority home owner... or an interactive map over every registered democrat that voted in the election. Maybe publish an interactive map of luxury car owners, or a map of corporate executives, or business owners, licensed pets????
There is freedom of the press and then there is the abuse of the private citizen. This news paper is ABUSING the public record, specifically to pressure private, law abiding citizens. If this is allowed to stand, there is no end to what trouble the press can get into.
And most amazing ......... the press cant be bothered with vetting Obama, reporting ob Fast and Furious, Benghazi etc, but they have the time to badger private citizens.
#9 Can you imagine this list in the hands of people who mean to harm you with fire arms, or use the fire arms in other criminal actions against you,or remove all fire arms altogether and force servitude over a defenseless population?
But then maybe you need someone lording over you to work 18 hrs a day, 7 days a week,and 365 days a year!!!
I don´t care if people know I own guns. In fact, I own lots of guns - and there´s no complete record of all of them. And I buy badass bullets for those guns to increase their stopping power. And I have a Concealed Carry Permit so one can never know if I am armed or not - so you´d better watch what you do around me. Or maybe I am just pulling your leg and want to tell you that you shouldn´t believe everything you read. Or maybe you should. Just remember to be nice around me.
FTA: "Now the paper has announced it will next publish the names and addresses of permit-holders in Putnam County with an eye toward eventually politicizing the names and addresses of every gun owner in the state." Interesting. I´m looking forward to seeing the names and addresses of all those folks in NY, especially the, uh, famous ones. You know, the politicians, entertainers, television folks, and especially those good people on the news programs. Can´t wait CynDee. What´s that? You won´t be publishing those peoples´ names? Come again? That might endanger them? So, you are flexing your 1st Amendment rights, just not toward your lefty famous buddies. Kinda being selective, huh? We should check. Did she name everyone with a permit in those areas, or did she leave some people off the map? If she left anyone off of the map, she is a fraud, a grandstander and an incrediby reckless woman.
They should publish a map of everyone who has ever been arrested for drunk driving. It would be far more useful in terms of public safety. At least people would know which neighborhood had the most drunks.
New York State has no restriction on long gun purchase, no requirement to register, or license requirement. These are required for handguns. So, not having your name and address listed doesn’t mean there is not a firearm in the home. Also, almost beyond belief to some, there may even be handguns not duly reported to the authorities in some dwellings, particularly those of professional criminals.
As a CCW holder, we are not allowed to show our carry- that why it´s called "Concealed Carry". Even if your shirt flies up in a breeze and someone sees your gun and calls a cop, you can actually be arrested for what is called "Brandishing". You must keep your weapon concealed at all times. So, this bunch of idiots in NY publishing the names is kind of a good thing. I, personally, can´t tell people I´m carrying a weapon. But, the loony publisher can do that for me. To me- that´s actually a good thing.
#27, you can´t tell people you are carrying, but you can tell them you have a CCW permit. Maybe they will make the assumption that you are carrying. If someone asks "Are you carrying"? you can always respond "I´m not allowed to tell you I am carrying" and let them assume what they will.
#12 stated it perfectly. There are many things that are available in public record, but most people would be horrified to have that information broadcast to the world. And that is exactly what the paper did...BROADCAST the information to the world. That is totally irresponsible. You do remember that even with a free press and free speech, there is such a thing as a limitation on rights when it infringes on the rights of others. You can yell "fire" in a crowded theater but expect to pay the consequences for your actions as people get stampeded to death in the panic. Even if no one is hurt, they can still arrest you for endangering the lives of others,
Ages and ages ago, I worked for a local newspaper chain. We never had problems, because the managing editor refused to hire any journalism or communications majors. After the new owner forced that editor out, the very liberal new editor decided to publish a very striking color photo of a car fire in which a mother of 3 was killed on the cover of the year-end review edition.
The family sued, claiming it no longer had any news value, as the accident had happened at the beginning of the year. The courts agreed, all through the appeal process.
Legal gun owners following the law are not newsworthy. It was an attempt to intimidate them. They should sue.
#9 at it again. Its ok to stretch the first amendment and interpret it any way you want, but its not ok to interpret the second exactly as it is written and exercise it at all. Can you say lefty hypocrite?
Gun owners are not public figures. The paper has no right to publish any information about them. Not only is it a form of libel ("these are whacko gun owners), they can sue the paper for reckless endangerment.
Is the customer list of Planned Parenthood protected information. How would this rag react if someone were to take pictures of all young women entering the building obviously pregnant and then pictures of them leaving just a little bit skinnier? Gun owner have made a decision to protect themselves. Those who choose to abort a child are defending their convenience from a consequence of a bad decision.
This newspaper is clearly up to something, and we have no reason to assume that they are just doing it on their own. They are doubling down, and doing it rather outrageously, attempting to inhibit law abiding private citizens from exercising their constitutional rights. That´s quite a big fight to pick. Why are they doing it? What are they trying to accomplish? What are they trying to make happen? What response are they trying to invite? I have an idea.
Could they be attempting to bait the NRA into responding? Could they be attempting to lure the NRA into an expensive legal battle with the ACLU, pitting the First Amendment against the Second Amendment? Could they be attempting to bait the NRA into depleting their resources over this nonsense rather than preserving it for the bigger fight over the gun control legislation we will see passed in 2013?
Almost every home in Texas has, as a standard item, a directory of all the people in the area that own guns and are, therefore, armed. We use it all the time for many different purposes. We call it "the phone book."
The insult is to the unarmed households who are prey to any criminal who wants a gun free place to invade. The shame is most of those who wouldn´t be caught dead with a gun will stand a much better chance now of being caught dead without one.
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