Obama: Don´t you dare expose my plan to bring down the US economy, or I´ll call you racists.
Republican "leaders": OK, sir. Whatever you say, sir.

I´m with #1. It´s the spending stupid.

90% of the country is completely comatose.

Obama just gave the Republicans a late Christmas gift!

Republicans should insist that any "Fiscal Cliff" deal, or any budget legislation in future, include a rollback of his announced pay raises for VP Biden and Congress.

Who wants to argue against that?

Ditto #1. I want to see some REAL cuts not fabricated ones.....like cost savings. Once we get the cuts, shred the charge card.

I have no faith that the GOP leadership in either the Senate or House will do what is right. They have been playing games for so long they are incapable of seeing what is best for the country.

It doesn´t matter what the Pubbies do or don´t do.

The Obama-Water-Boy presstitutes will shield Bambi-Reid-et al from criticism while proclaiming ´It´s Bush´s Fault!´

The whole charade is a shameful debacle. The games the democrat rats play is some kind of pretzel logic. Reread to further enhance comprehension, the text gets complicated. Reid second guesses this, fake out McConnell to get him to do that. Someone with some smarts on the pub side should go in there with a proverbial baseball bat and shake up "negotiations" considerably, crack some knee caps. What I´d give to be able to sick some of the oh so smart numerous Lucianne posters on them! Those foolish dems would be begging for New Years to come sooner.

Screw the Dems. Sink their plan, make them actually have to vote on a budget. They´ve gotten away with almost four years of this garbage.

Lucianne posters #7? I would dearly love to send Lucianne herself after them. She was the guiding advice in the blue dress scandal you know. Imagine what she could do with this group of maroons.

Strange how Obie isn´t getting much blowback from middle class taxpayers on the whole deal regardless how it plays out. Could be because most are on holiday right now. Or there is blowback, but the msm is hiding it.

I really don´t think the pubs are feeling any pressure. Sadly, none of the proposals currently on the table include any SIGNIFICANT spending cuts. Unless you consider the cliff to be the only "proposal" that´s on the table.

My uneducated guess is that the Republicans will cave and agree to higher rates on the "rich" and spending cuts 10 years down the road that will never happen. IMHO we have already gone off the cliff and real question is how hard will the landing be? Looks to be a very hard landing, spending a trillion dollars a year we don´t have on programs and departments we don´t need. Congress can´t stop the spending. It will continues to increase every year with no reduction in the national debt in sight.

The pubbies won´t stand up--and why do Biden and others get a raise when zippy wants to take money from everyone else?
Man, this is one screwed up country and it just seems to be getting more screwed-literally and otherwise.
Stand up Boehner--Stand up McConnell--
JUST SAY NO!!!

This is sausage-making at its ugliest.

The Democrats are playing chess and the Republicans are playing checkers by accepting the premise that proposing a tax increase for those over $250K is a reasonable proposal.

OPEN LETTER TO REPUBLICANS:

Why do you keep allowing the Democrats to set the premises which they then ask YOU to compromise with? STOP IT!

Gee, the Pubbies are not in power but they get reamed out for not stopping things. Someone voted for this rotten prez and all because he was black. Or gray, whatever, and goofballs voted him in twice. Listen to the dims howl when their voters write them and tell them how they feel about tax increases. Term limits time.

GOP = SQUIISH. They stand for nothing and hence will turn into nothing.

Republicans need to turn the heat up to burn on Obama. This bankruptcy spending clown needs to be confronted and the spending brought down to our means.

So what are the Republicans to do? Anything they offer up will be vetoed by Obama, Reid or the Democrats. I´m sick of the blame being placed on the Republicans. Including on this site. You really think Obama is going to accept anything from Boehner? What world are you living in? Yet, the bashing of the Republicans continues. Don´t you get it - that is what Obama is trying to accomplish - a mess of the economy and the Republicans in disarray.

Most Americans don´t read and have no idea what this means. It is not just the 47% who carry everyone else´s freight who will be hurt. The cost of everything will be going up sharply. I say bring it and let these Obama loving freaks feel the pain. The howling will be loud and totally worth the price.

Whatever gets to the House, Boehner should not put it to a vote unless a majority of Repubs will vote for it. There´s talk that he will let Dems pass a bad bill with minority Repub support.

I´m tired of hearing Republicans say that they control only 1/3 of the legislative process, so they´ll have to roll over. Their horrible fate could be demonization by the press, or even denigration by obama in the SOTU address. What about saving our country from absolute doom? At least fight for us while you hold the House!

#11 has it right, we have already gone over the cliff and are watching the bottom coming up to meet us. I don´t see it as a bad thing because the strong will survive and prosper but the losers will get to feel reality smack them in the face - hard.

If Democrats were serious about only taxing "the wealthy," and if Republicans were serious about NOT taxing small businesses that get lumped in with those mean capitalist coupon clippers the Democrats want to burn at the stake, then they would both have proposed the obvious solution long ago.

If they were honest, they would have agreed to impose the tax increases only on income over $250K reportable on 1040 lines 7, 8, 9, and 13. That would exclude ALL small business income reportable on schedule C and line 12, subchapter S earnings reportable on line 17, and all farm income reportable on line 18. The tax increase would ONLY apply to income over $250K derived from wages, interest, dividends, and capital gains. In other words, RICH people. And I´m sorry, but if your salary is over $250,000 a year, or you collect more than that in interest and dividends, most Americans would consider you pretty rich. This really is not that hard.

#17 posters analysis makes the most sense!
the republicans need to QUIT THE BLAME GAME within their own party leaders & show some support!..#5 sorry you don´t have any ´faith
in the Republican party, the house or the senate to do the right thing, I believe they
have tried, however meet with nothing but opposition from the Demorats & their leader!

There is one thing that I have witnessed over a long period of time. And that is, when Senators and Representatives are elected for the first time. they go all out to do just what they promised to their constituents they would do. However, as time passes and they keep getting re-elected, they seem to be more interested in "getting a deal" made, regardless of the circumstances. And the old, worn out excuse is "I did the best I could given the opposition". That´s what you´re going to see and hear this time too.

Let’s stipulate two things: 1. we’re over the cliff. 2. Republicans will get the blame.

So, what to do? Answer: make the Dems and Obama, the biggest spender in the history of man, own it.

Vote present, let Obama and Reid have their taxes and expenditures. Vote present, and let the consequences crash down upon the Democrats heads.

From the wreckage of the economy and a discredited Democratic (Socialist) Party of 2013, we might be able to put together a fiscally sane government.

Pubs are going to be blamed regardless. Time to do the right thing and just say "No!". Let the 47% (whose numbers will be drastically reduced once we´re over the cliff) feel the consequences of their vote. Yes, the rest of us will be squeezed, too, but life isn´t fair. At least many of those insulated from income tax consequences will face them again and be forced to think a bit more responsibly.

Strategically, this would send a shot across the bow as we approach the debt ceiling. Then it will be time to really get tough. The best way to stop the spending is to cut up the credit card and force NerØbama to live within his revenues. Yes, he will concentrate funds on blue states and his liberal friends, but where will that leave the swing voters who sat out this election? They will be enraged, and that rage will ultimately play out in 2014. It´s all about 2014 at this point, and the Dems shouldn´t feel so confident as to the outcome.

We´re in a war for the future of the country. It´s time to fight it.

Playing checkers; playing chess. Someone, anyone, PLEASE tell these jerks this is NOT a game. This is....or perhaps it was America before Two Won turned us into forward banana republic. Put your marbles back where they belong pubbies and stop playing with them. And DO NOT even think about playing with the balls to begin a game of hoops. WTP know you don´t possess these.

Lets not forget that this little pay raise for the top administrators and congress extends to ALL federal workers.

This is outRAGEous and must be stopped. There is no justification for pay raises.

Can anyone imagine how horrendous it must be to try and negotiate with Obama and Reid ?
Does anyone think they care what Republicans want ?
Or what´s best for all Americans ?
The Republicans and 16 Democrats , passed a clean bill extending the Bush tax cuts for all Americans last summer.
Boehner sent the bill to the Senate and Reid threw it in the garbage.
Yelling and screaming , like many posters and talk radio armchair Congressmen advocate ,
will accomplish what , exactly ?
The majority of Americans elected Obama-twice.
The Democrats and liberals control the media .
Democrats control the Senate.
Within a few years, they will control the USSC .
Reid is trying to do away with the filibuster , so the 53 Democrats and 2 Indys
can streamline Obama´s lifetime federal judicial appointees without the 45 Republicans
having any say.
The Republican majority in the House will shrink by 8 seats come January.
Boehner has little leverage except for the Coulter option.

This is not about money and taxes.

This is about Freedom.

What´s funny here is, the so-called "Øbama" plan is so onerous, even Democrats won´t vote for it- Reid had to table it for fear of floor vote rejection in a Democrat majority Senate!