Saying that he is “modestly optimistic,” President Obama emerged this evening to call the afternoon meeting at the White House between himself and Congressional leaders “constructive.” Obama said that Senate leaders Reid and McConnell will try reaching a deal on the cliff, and if they cannot, he wants an up or down vote in the House and the Senate on a slimmed down deal that preserves current tax rates on the middle class. The Republican House tried moving just such a deal last week, but failed on the fact that tax rates would still go up
Whenever you hear one of these people say "the deal isn´t perfect but it´s the best one we could get" get ready to grab your ankles. If Boehner and the House rolls over on an Obama biased proposal,they´ll need to find a new job in 2015.
Obviously Obama is stalling to get their backs against the wall so they cave. I say take the cliff rather than give Obama what he wants.You´re going to get bad press either way.
Going over the cliff will awaken many of the dolts who work for a living but feel the Squatter is our messiah. Let the numerous Hollywierds and millions of us working stiffs feel the pain for a short time that this mess will eventually bring in spades without a true correction. That´s a balanced budget, (What budget? There ain´t no budget) control of fraud and control of entitlements and more.
Maybe an uprising will generate an unequivocal understanding that US minions aren´t going to take it any more. Too many believe that the handouts will be forthcoming. What they don´t understand is that they will go only to the 47%; i.e. Voters who gave us the Squatters including those grifters on the gummint dole!
“Three more days of posturing.” Plus four years of having done so and four more years in the offing. That’s enough posturing for a lifetime. Even several lifetimes. Under his leadership, corruption has almost become an art form.
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Bad Dog, 12/29/2012 8:12:39 AM (No. 9088404)
Aaarrrggghhh!! The Democrats will NEVER ´´own´´ anything! They are experts at Alinsky, while the Senate and House Republicans (/s) don´t seem to even KNOW about Alinsky Rules, much less apply them back IN RETURN.
And what´s with ´´modestly optimistic´´? Did he mean MODERATELY optimistic? What does modesty have to do with optimism? Here again, Barcky´s well known narcissism is front and center. He knows no modesty. Taking credit for something he is hopeful for..... (this was not a question).
Obama will blame Republicans for everything, now and forever (if we let him), and the drones will know no different. And they won´t care. Whatever schadenfreude we may get from the upcoming disasters in their lives, will make no difference and will bite us back in the end. Drones won´t accept that Obama and the Democrats set this in motion - and care not one whit about them, really - only that the Republicans caused it because that´s all they´ll hear from their dronemasters.
Or the Republicans will cave (again) and Obama will be the Hero of the Universe. Again.
First....what party was responsible for making sure the "Bush Tax Rates" were "temporary" ???? Can any news organization find who proposed that or inserted that language into the bill ?
Second....this tax situation is NOTHING MORE than a return to the "Clinton Tax Rates". Call it that every time. The Dems think of the Clinton years as the time of our lives, so call it that and LET them own that.
Spending cuts are the secondary part of the equation, but we are losing the PR battle by letting the Democrat press define the issues (i.e. "fiscal cliff", "Bush Tax cuts", etc)
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Mr. Hanky, 12/29/2012 8:26:56 AM (No. 9088416)
Everything Obama and the Dems have done over the last four years has been about avoiding having to vote on a budget. Maybe we´ll get a "Gang of Six" or a "Gaggle of Four" deal this time again. What a crock of garbage.
In re #2, yes absolutely. We are about to get a small sample of what happened to the Greeks. But, look, if I was in Boehner´s and McConnell´s shoes, accepting tax increases not as hard to swallow if dollar for dollar spending cuts are adopted at the same time. Whew...but, this sounds equivalent to going over the cliff.
Anything the pubbies do will just be criticized by the MSM. Anything the dems do will be the story of the day for the MSM. The pubbies need to stand back and watch-that´s it. Let the MSM beat them up and move on. Boehner and McConnell-do not put your fingerprints on anything. Coulter is right this time.
Obama couldn´t care less about what is in the Constitution. It is just an annoying obstacle for him that he has to override. I am sure his so-called students walked away with the same attitude. That is how liberal cancer spreads.
The only way to turn public opinion if this happens will be by a resurgence of Tea Party activism. This time hopefully with higher GenX participation. Our million strong Tax Day march on Washington in 2009 and numerous rallies across America setup the 2010 rout. Obama plans to blame Republicans for his new taxes via the media but a grassroots campaign can overcome that. One can only hope.
NO Deal, Republicans! I´m with Coulter... make ´em own it. Elections do indeed have consequences and the idiot slackers who voted for Democrats need to feel the pain. Bush let millions of Democrat voters off the tax rolls and they´ve had no skin in the game ever since. Time to pay the piper Democrats.
A very frustrated Congressman Aaron Schock was on Greta last night and he made excellent points that you will never hear or read in the non FOX media. The interview is on his website. The House , including 19 Democrats , passed a clean bill saving the Bush tax cuts for everyone last summer. Harry Reid refuses to let it come up in the Senate. Last April 13 , Obama proposed 3 dollars in spending cuts for every dollar raised in revenue . Republicans believe they can raise that revenue without increasing taxes . Schock said that Boehner tried to save as many " hostages " ( taxpayers ) as he could by agreeing to Obama´s April proposal and he was rebuffed. That Obama promise had an expiration date and it was on Nov 6. As Schock said, the proposals made by Obama and Reid are so outlandish , it´s obvious they do not want a deal . The House is just negotiating with itself. The Coulter proposal is intriguing, but, the only way it might get media coverage would be a massive press conference on the steps of Capitol Hill. Where Boehener and the Republicans would lay out their frustration at Obama´s refusal to negotiate in good faith ( or any faith , not even his Muslim faith) . Republicans would have to be unified in this and that could be a problem.
I originally supported the "vote present" strategy - until NerØbama raised the ante. That strategy properly applied to what el Presidente campaigned on, not his wish list. Now that it will be their way or the highway: I vote for highway.
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