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Hobby Lobby faces millions
in fines for bucking Obamacare

CNN, by Eric Marrapodi

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 12/27/2012 10:45:40 PM

Washington - Craft store giant Hobby Lobby is bracing for a $1.3 million a day fine beginning January 1 for noncompliance with the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, dubbed Obamacare. The company opposes providing some contraceptives to employees through its company health care plan on religious grounds, saying some contraceptive products, like the morning after pill, equate to abortion. After failing to receive temporary relief from the fines from the Supreme Court, Hobby Lobby announced late Thursday through its attorneys that it "will continue to provide health

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´Free´ health care - at gun point.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: janylou, 12/27/2012 10:49:20 PM     (No. 9086826)

Socialistmayor needs to be run out of town on a rail.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Ok state mom, 12/27/2012 10:55:07 PM     (No. 9086834)

Millions are going to be raging mad if Hobby Lobby shuts their doors.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Crosscut, 12/27/2012 11:14:32 PM     (No. 9086854)

This administration and Washington Democrats are out of control. When can the U.S. military step in? Surely the Joint Chiefs must be pretty disgusted by now.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 12/27/2012 11:17:11 PM     (No. 9086859)

@#3: Don`t count on it. The military always sides with the govn. They value their fancy offices, personal drivers and fat pensions more than the Constitution they preserve, protect and defend.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Pat26.2, 12/28/2012 12:06:41 AM     (No. 9086904)

Hobby Lobby can stop providing health insurance to its employees and pay the Obamacare fines; it´s cheaper. If you kill off employer provided health insurance, you pave the way to single-payer. That´s the plan. The Democrats want a unionized government run healthcare care system modeled after the appallingly bad NHS system in England. Almost all NHS employees vote Labor (i.e. Socialist) and the NHS is the 3rd largest bureaucracy in the world after the Chinese Red Army and the Indian Railways. It is all about power and control for the Left. It has nothing to do with improving healthcare.


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Reply 6 - Posted by: mackrand, 12/28/2012 12:37:37 AM     (No. 9086931)

Just the merest slight trickle coming out of the dam face. I can imagine that Hobby Lobby will close down for the duration rather than pay that fine. So will many others big and small.

One thing is for sure, having to pay a fine for not providing what was a perk for many years is not going to go over very well. Company funded health care is on it´s way bye bye.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: get er done, 12/28/2012 12:48:57 AM     (No. 9086936)

Is the $1.3 million per day penalty an example of what Roberts referred to as a "tax?"



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Reply 8 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 12/28/2012 1:44:00 AM     (No. 9086958)

As I have already said and will repeat once----
hire only men because they don´t get pregnant and the insurance isn´t needed because it´s a forced on us women´s right with men not included.
All women who intend to use the free be´s should have to register and publicly declare their status so men can look beyond them for
partners.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: belwhatter, 12/28/2012 3:01:19 AM     (No. 9086971)

Maybe Hobby Lobby should close - that kind of action brings it home to the sheeple in no uncertain way.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: kono, 12/28/2012 3:17:09 AM     (No. 9086974)

The basic message: Resistance is futile. Do it our way, or we´ll fine you out of existence.

Authoritarianism sucks, even in its early stages.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/28/2012 4:38:53 AM     (No. 9086989)

All Hobby Lobby needs to do is to put all workers on part-time (less than 30 hours) and they´re home free.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: neanderthal, 12/28/2012 4:59:47 AM     (No. 9087000)

Close it down. Take the family money and move to the Bahamas. Let the Democrats worry about resulting unemployment.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/28/2012 5:23:39 AM     (No. 9087007)

One thing you can be sure of is no liberal or muslim owned company would face a million dollar a day fine.This is pure and simple religious persecution which is banned under the first amendment. Of course judge Sotomanure couldn´t see that.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 12/28/2012 7:05:26 AM     (No. 9087056)

@9 Have you seen the men cutting fabric at JoAnn Fabric? Ladies I´ve been seeing in the store for 12 years are gone. It´s a shocking sight to see!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/28/2012 7:41:31 AM     (No. 9087094)

Liberals aborting? A question to be pondered. Do we need another Do Cracker?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Libertygal, 12/28/2012 8:17:56 AM     (No. 9087144)

All they need to do is move their headquarters to one of the states that has opted out of the healthcare exchange and suffer no fines for not offering corporate insurance. The states that have opted out cannot fine corporations or individuals without insurance. Let the federal ecxhange handle their coverage.

May not be the most appetizing solution to the employees, but it´s better than tanking the company and having no job at all.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Dreemaun, 12/28/2012 9:14:23 AM     (No. 9087233)

I don´t which is more sad, the article or the comments following it. The tide is turning and it´s sad to see the majority in this country are turning out to be nit-wits.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 12/28/2012 9:36:17 AM     (No. 9087271)

I wonder if it would be possible for Hobby Lobby to make every store into its own LLC, thereby keeping the number of employees under the Obamacare minimum. Of course, they could also incorporate in Bermuda, thereby leaving the US altogether. Corporations aren´t stupid, and even a 3,000 page nightmare law has loopholes.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 12/28/2012 9:39:04 AM     (No. 9087277)

Hobby Lobby is headquartered in Oklahoma City and Oklahoma has decided not to set up an Obamacare health care exchange.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: homjett, 12/28/2012 9:46:43 AM     (No. 9087294)

Okla has opted out of Obamacare. HL HQs is in OKC.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: KingBubo, 12/28/2012 9:49:36 AM     (No. 9087298)

Sounds like they had a bad lawyer in front of a worse judge. Take some of that $1.3 mil per day and hire a better lawyer who can present the arguement to suit the demands.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: faith_and_reason, 12/28/2012 9:52:56 AM     (No. 9087303)

As Jay Sekulow mentioned in an interview this morning, the First Amendment doesn´t mention "non-profit." In any case, Christianity is not "non-profit," for what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul?

Christianity encourages the greatest of profit-seeking, and speaks well of all lesser kinds of profit-seeking, as long as it is subordinated to that greatest.

As others have observed, this is nothing less than a war against Christian values.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Muguy, 12/28/2012 10:56:06 AM     (No. 9087433)

You have to admire Hobby Lobby for sticking to their principles. Chick-fil-A stood to theirs too, sort of....

This is the result of a totally rotten deal with the devil--Cheif Justice John Roberts saying that this crap was a tax, but it was not since the House of Representatives didn´t create it...

The notion that pro-life entities have to provide for abortion...


Even with Romney some sort of health plan would have emerged, just as when Hillarycare was defeated during Bubba Clnton´s term, Bob Dole of Kansas had a "plan"

Anyone else sick of the notion that whatever the dems promote that the "Republicans" can produce a better plan?

More government is not the solution--government is the problem!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: columba, 12/28/2012 1:34:46 PM     (No. 9087679)

What is "just" and what is "unjust"? Be careful how you consider this and line up your response to some real moral truth.
Afterwards, you can conclude rightly that unjust laws need not be followed.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: kono, 12/28/2012 2:33:19 PM     (No. 9087737)

#17, 20, et al: Not setting up an Obamacare healthcare exchange doesn´t exempt people in the state from Obamacare regulations -- it just lets the federal program provide the healthcare exchange services for them

There is no opting out of Obamacare or the HHS decrees, except for those orgs whose waiver applications are approved.

Is this not the case?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: CentralFLMom, 12/29/2012 3:29:25 PM     (No. 9088979)

My church currently has a prayer vigil for Hobby Lobby. We support them for their position.
No one should be forced to provide birth control. What we need to work on is eliminating access to birth control, abortion and promiscuity.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: franq, 12/29/2012 3:36:02 PM     (No. 9088983)

The federal government has no business issuing birth control directives.

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