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Los Angeles may ban
circus elephants

United Press International, by Staff

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Posted By:JoniTx, 12/26/2012 9:09:14 PM

LOS ANGELES- Los Angeles could become the first major U.S. city to ban elephant acts in circuses if it passes a measure backers say will eventually be adopted "universally." The city council is expected to vote early in the new year on an ordinance that could force the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus either to drop its annual stop in the country´s second-largest city or pull one of its most popular acts, , The New York Times reported. Paul Koretz, the councilman who sponsored the ordinance banning elephants, predicted other big cities will follow suit

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 12/26/2012 9:14:23 PM     (No. 9085000)

Big boon for venues just outside of LA


Reply 2 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/26/2012 9:16:03 PM     (No. 9085002)

I hope they do ban elephants.
Years ago a circus came to our town, and I took my young son to watch them set up.
The handlers were beating the elephants to force them to pull the ropes to set up the big top. It was horrible the way they treated those poor animals.
My son was horrified. Time to end the practice of tormenting animals in circuses.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: Muncsdad, 12/26/2012 9:23:39 PM     (No. 9085016)

#2´s allegation is serious and troubling. But I´m a bit cynical and question what ´beating´ an elephant means. Is it like prodding or vicious beating.

I don´t know enough to address the poster´s issue, but I do know enough that almost everything done by governments in California is imbecilic, so I´m inclinesd to think this action is imbecilic.


Reply 4 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/26/2012 9:30:45 PM     (No. 9085026)

Let me clarify: The elephants were kicked with a heavily booted foot, and the handlers had poles with hooks on the end that were used to repeatedly hit the elephants. The beasts were forced to pull ropes and were having great difficulty pulling such a heavy load as they raised the huge tent.


Reply 5 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 12/26/2012 9:34:38 PM     (No. 9085030)

Mahouts in Africa and India have been using sharp clubs to guide the elephants. Their skin is very thick and loose. I had the fun of touching one in CA one time. Very gentle, but it got restless with the music and noise and we backed off.


Reply 6 - Posted by: vesicant, 12/26/2012 10:53:01 PM     (No. 9085105)

Glad to see LA has solved all its other problems and has time for this.


Reply 7 - Posted by: Manitouman, 12/26/2012 10:54:45 PM     (No. 9085106)

It maybe looked brutal but I can absolutely guarantee you a man can´t hurt an elephant. Prod one maybe, but not hurt one.

LA doesn´t want competition with its city council circus. That´s why it doesn´t want an animal circus in town.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/26/2012 11:44:47 PM     (No. 9085145)

I couldn´t help myself, I had to find out if the objection was the green house gases from the farts, the symbolism associated with the GOP, or something else. Circuses have utilized elephants to raise the tents for the 60 years I´ve been on the planet. Its a prime example of serendipity that one of your main draws also helps erect the tents. If I were the circus I would tell CA that they were no longer on the schedule. Tell them to go watch the governor´s project of sterilizing fruit flies in preparation for the next outbreak of fruit flies.


Reply 9 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 12/26/2012 11:57:24 PM     (No. 9085152)

Interesting to note that circus elephants will soon have more rights than the unborn humans in California.
Wow.


Reply 10 - Posted by: glcinpdx, 12/27/2012 1:41:33 AM     (No. 9085199)

If they went one step further and banned circus clowns, who would run the city government?


Reply 11 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/27/2012 2:59:58 AM     (No. 9085213)

You can´t deprive inner city kids from elephants.They make them feel at home.


Reply 12 - Posted by: LAW428, 12/27/2012 5:47:51 AM     (No. 9085263)

Once everything worthwhile has been banned we will have nothing left to live for but to bow to Obama and the Socialist state.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: afherkdriver, 12/27/2012 8:04:11 AM     (No. 9085383)

Ban Los Angeles.


Reply 14 - Posted by: MattMusson, 12/27/2012 9:25:03 AM     (No. 9085539)

I work behind the scenes with the circus every year when they come to town. I have never seen anyone beating an elephant.

However, when I used to spend time at a horse stable - I used to see people whip, spur and hit horses.

Maybe LA should ban stables?



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