A Message From Lucianne  




Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google

  Topic: Los Angeles may ban
circus elephants
Change your user profile.
If you are having trouble posting, please take the time to register.
Your User Name :
Your Password
  I forgot my password
Your Reply  :
Preview Reply     Post Reply
Los Angeles may ban
circus elephants

United Press International, by Staff

Original Article

Posted By:JoniTx, 12/26/2012 9:09:14 PM

LOS ANGELES- Los Angeles could become the first major U.S. city to ban elephant acts in circuses if it passes a measure backers say will eventually be adopted "universally." The city council is expected to vote early in the new year on an ordinance that could force the Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus either to drop its annual stop in the country´s second-largest city or pull one of its most popular acts, , The New York Times reported. Paul Koretz, the councilman who sponsored the ordinance banning elephants, predicted other big cities will follow suit


Post Reply  

Reply 1 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 12/26/2012 9:14:23 PM     (No. 9085000)

Big boon for venues just outside of LA

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Reply 2 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/26/2012 9:16:03 PM     (No. 9085002)

I hope they do ban elephants.
Years ago a circus came to our town, and I took my young son to watch them set up.
The handlers were beating the elephants to force them to pull the ropes to set up the big top. It was horrible the way they treated those poor animals.
My son was horrified. Time to end the practice of tormenting animals in circuses.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment




Reply 3 - Posted by: Muncsdad, 12/26/2012 9:23:39 PM     (No. 9085016)

#2´s allegation is serious and troubling. But I´m a bit cynical and question what ´beating´ an elephant means. Is it like prodding or vicious beating.

I don´t know enough to address the poster´s issue, but I do know enough that almost everything done by governments in California is imbecilic, so I´m inclinesd to think this action is imbecilic.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Reply 4 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/26/2012 9:30:45 PM     (No. 9085026)

Let me clarify: The elephants were kicked with a heavily booted foot, and the handlers had poles with hooks on the end that were used to repeatedly hit the elephants. The beasts were forced to pull ropes and were having great difficulty pulling such a heavy load as they raised the huge tent.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Reply 5 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 12/26/2012 9:34:38 PM     (No. 9085030)

Mahouts in Africa and India have been using sharp clubs to guide the elephants. Their skin is very thick and loose. I had the fun of touching one in CA one time. Very gentle, but it got restless with the music and noise and we backed off.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Reply 6 - Posted by: vesicant, 12/26/2012 10:53:01 PM     (No. 9085105)

Glad to see LA has solved all its other problems and has time for this.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Reply 7 - Posted by: Manitouman, 12/26/2012 10:54:45 PM     (No. 9085106)

It maybe looked brutal but I can absolutely guarantee you a man can´t hurt an elephant. Prod one maybe, but not hurt one.

LA doesn´t want competition with its city council circus. That´s why it doesn´t want an animal circus in town.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment




Reply 8 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/26/2012 11:44:47 PM     (No. 9085145)

I couldn´t help myself, I had to find out if the objection was the green house gases from the farts, the symbolism associated with the GOP, or something else. Circuses have utilized elephants to raise the tents for the 60 years I´ve been on the planet. Its a prime example of serendipity that one of your main draws also helps erect the tents. If I were the circus I would tell CA that they were no longer on the schedule. Tell them to go watch the governor´s project of sterilizing fruit flies in preparation for the next outbreak of fruit flies.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Reply 9 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 12/26/2012 11:57:24 PM     (No. 9085152)

Interesting to note that circus elephants will soon have more rights than the unborn humans in California.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Reply 10 - Posted by: glcinpdx, 12/27/2012 1:41:33 AM     (No. 9085199)

If they went one step further and banned circus clowns, who would run the city government?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Reply 11 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/27/2012 2:59:58 AM     (No. 9085213)

You can´t deprive inner city kids from elephants.They make them feel at home.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Reply 12 - Posted by: LAW428, 12/27/2012 5:47:51 AM     (No. 9085263)

Once everything worthwhile has been banned we will have nothing left to live for but to bow to Obama and the Socialist state.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment




Reply 13 - Posted by: afherkdriver, 12/27/2012 8:04:11 AM     (No. 9085383)

Ban Los Angeles.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Reply 14 - Posted by: MattMusson, 12/27/2012 9:25:03 AM     (No. 9085539)

I work behind the scenes with the circus every year when they come to town. I have never seen anyone beating an elephant.

However, when I used to spend time at a horse stable - I used to see people whip, spur and hit horses.

Maybe LA should ban stables?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

Post Reply   Close thread 716815

Below, you will find ...

Most Recent Articles posted by "JoniTx"


Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)

Most Recent Articles posted by "JoniTx"

IRS Among agencies that hired
license plate-tracking vendor
Bloomberg News, by Kathleen Miller    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 7:40:54 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service and other federal agencies awarded about $415,000 in contracts to a license plate-tracking company before Homeland Security leaders dropped a plan for similar work amid privacy complaints. Federal offices such as the Forest Service and the U.S. Air Force´s Air Combat Command chose Livermore, Calif.-based Vigilant Solutions to provide access to license plate databases or tools used to collect plate information, according to government procurement records compiled by Bloomberg. Vigilant, a closely held company, has received such work since 2009. In February, Jeh Johnson, secretary of the Department of Homeland Security

US weighing military exercises
in Eastern Europe
Associated Press, by Staff    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 7:35:19 PM     Post Reply
WASHINGTON— A Western official says the United States is considering deploying about 150 soldiers for military exercises to begin in Poland and Estonia in the next few weeks. The exercises would follow Russia´s buildup of forces near its border with Ukraine and its annexation last month of Ukraine´s Crimean Peninsula. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said earlier this week that the U.S. is looking for ways to reassure its NATO allies of its strong commitment to collective defense. The Western official says ground exercises in Poland and Estonia would last about two weeks but that such exercises would continue on a




Ted Cruz Writes Thank You
Letter to Obama in POLITICO
Mediaite, by Matt Wilstein    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 7:28:15 PM     Post Reply
This week’s POLITICO Magazine contains an uncharacteristic show of gratitude from Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) to President Barack Obama. Under the headline “A bipartisan message to Iran,” the senator thanks the president for signing his S 2195 bill into law, which prevents anyone who has engaged in espionage or terrorism against the U.S. from gaining entry to the country via the United Nations. “Thanks to President Obama for joining a unanimous Congress and signing S 2195 into law,” Cruz begins his piece. By giving the president “the authority to deny visas to United Nations ambassadors who are known terrorists,” he

147 immigrants found in
Alton stash house
Monitor [McAllen TX], by Karen Antonacci    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 4:50:24 PM     Post Reply
U.S. Border Control agents detained 147 people suspected of being in the country illegally from a stash house Thursday afternoon in Alton — shortly after 81 people were found hiding in makeshift huts in McAllen. The 147 people were discovered in a house at the 8900 block of North Bentsen Palm Drive. Border Patrol spokesman Danny Tirado said he didn’t recall the exact time of the bust, but said it was not too long after the 81 people were found in a brushy area of McAllen northwest of Sprague and North 10th Street about 1 p.m. The 147 people detained

Breaking News: Did Apple’s
Satellite Map App Just Find
the Loch Ness Monster?
Independent Journal Review, by Kyle Becker    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 1:41:43 PM     Post Reply
Reports are flying across the Internet about the possibility that Apple’s satellite map app just snapped a pic of the elusive “Loch Ness monster.” Long speculated to be a relative of the dinosaur-era plesiosaur, many have chalked the rumors up to baseless monster talk. Until now. (Photograph) Could this satellite imagery hold a clue that scientists on the hunt have been missing? Could the Loch Ness monster be real?

Exclusive: Inside the
Bundy Ranch and the Fight
Against Government Overreach
Breitbart's Big Government, by Kerry Picket    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 12:40:44 PM     Post Reply
Bunkersville, Nevada — Cliven Bundy’s ranch, recently the site of a tense stand-off that started over two weeks ago between the federal government and the Bundy family, had morphed into a good old-fashioned family picnic complete with live country music, hamburgers, and hotdogs Friday. A week after the Bureau of Land Management’s armed force left Bunkersville, Bundy and his supporters continue to make the family’s case relating to Bundy’s right to graze his cattle on public land his family has been on for many years. Bundy told Breitbart News the only communication he has received from the BLM recently has been

Ouch: College Students Give Obama
a Cold Reception in Pennslvania
Townhall, by Cortney O´Brien    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/19/2014 12:31:47 PM     Post Reply
The president´s speeches may need to be accompanied by a laugh track from now on, considering the crickets he received at his appearance in Community College of Allegheny County, in Oakdale, Pa., on Wednesday. Although he tried to tout his new spending program, both Obama´s talking points and attempts at humor didn´t go over so well: At the end, when the president walked back from the podium to smile and wave at the roughly 60 people in the bleachers 20 feet behind him, he faced a unfriendly wall of faces. The White House video of the bleacher’s front rank shows three men with their hands crossed, one with his hands stuck




Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)

Kim Novak responds to post-
Oscars ridicule: ‘I was bullied.’

54 replie(s)
Washington Post, by Soroya Nadia McDonald    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/18/2014 5:02:40 AM     Post Reply
After presenting at the Academy Awards this year, Kim Novak didn’t want to leave her house. The Hitchcock screen siren, 81, was too humiliated to venture from her home near the Rogue River in Oregon. She read the cruel posts and Internet snark about her appearance, and it was just too much. “It got to me like it gets kids and teenagers,” she told the Associated Press. The “Vertigo” actress, considered one of the great beauties in her day, posted a note on her Facebook wall Thursday, acknowledging that she’d gotten fat injections in her face and addressing her halted

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
44 replie(s)
The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

White House blames fox for
destroying Michelle’s garden

44 replie(s)
Daily Caller, by Vince Coglianese    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:59:04 PM     Post Reply
The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

43 replie(s)
Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
37 replie(s)
American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

32 replie(s)
New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

Obama: ´For me, Easter is a story of hope,
a belief in a better day to come´

30 replie(s)
Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/19/2014 9:16:36 AM     Post Reply
Hi, everybody. For millions of Americans, this time of year holds great meaning. Earlier this week, we hosted a Passover Seder at the White House, and joined Jewish families around the world in their re-tellings of the story of the Exodus and the victory of faith over oppression. And this Sunday, Michelle, Malia, Sasha, and I will join our fellow Christians around the world in celebrating the Resurrection of Christ, the salvation he offered the world, and the hope that comes with the Easter season. These holy days have their roots in miracles that took place long ago. And yet, they still inspire us, guide us, and strengthen us today. They remind us of our


Post Reply   Close thread 716815

Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google

© 2014 Lucianne.com Media Inc.