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People are Buying Guns
and Ammunition for a Reason

American Thinker, by Neil Snyder

Original Article

Posted By:sagman, 12/25/2012 6:38:01 AM

It´s 2:00 a.m. You are at home in your bed sound asleep. Your wife is sleeping beside you, and your children are asleep in their rooms down the hall. The muffled sound of a window breaking interrupts your slumber. You´re groggy and you wonder if it was just a dream, so you lie there quietly and listen. A few seconds later, you hear other sounds.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: alto, 12/25/2012 7:18:56 AM     (No. 9082807)

I don´t own an assault weapon. My AR15 is my HDR ( home/homeland Defense rifle). I don´t allow anyone to say I have an assault rifle as it has never, and will never, Assault ( as in starting a conflict)


Reply 2 - Posted by: ledbythnose, 12/25/2012 7:40:11 AM     (No. 9082815)

This should be another Chik File warning to those who seek to enslave us. The Leftist who are running this show should take heed. The vast silent majority in America have had just about all the BS we can take. All it will take now is one Waco style raid and America will descend into a second Civil War which will result in the fall of this Regime. The Propagandist in the Media who support them will not fare well either.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 12/25/2012 8:12:36 AM     (No. 9082840)

We suggest buying yourself a Beretta 92FS semi-automatic pistol containing 15 rounds of 9mm hollow points. Put it on your night table. It gives one a warm fuzzy feeling to know it is there. Merry Christmas!


Reply 4 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 12/25/2012 8:19:08 AM     (No. 9082848)

Keep in mind that many of those screaming about gun control usually have armed bodyguards or hire security details.


Reply 5 - Posted by: hot coffee, 12/25/2012 8:26:45 AM     (No. 9082854)

As the Obameconomy continues to stink and only get worse as taxes go up, home invasions will increase.

What I find most concerning about the article is the increase in gun ownership by Democrats. I´m sure these are inner-city gang bangers who commit the vast, vast majority of gun crime. They´re the ones we need to defend ourselves against.


Reply 6 - Posted by: rustycfc, 12/25/2012 8:29:00 AM     (No. 9082857)

that is right #4, like pino and the members of congress.


Reply 7 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 12/25/2012 8:29:42 AM     (No. 9082858)

I keep a Louisville Slugger by the bed.

I have it painted black with some cooling fins along the barrel.

It is an assault bat.

Always call first before visiting.

Then chat with the dogs upon approaching.

Then knock.....politely.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: WAN2, 12/25/2012 8:29:48 AM     (No. 9082859)

Not cited is protection against a government that sends its minions to your house to check on your toilets, light bulbs, thermostats, foodstuffs, etc.


Reply 9 - Posted by: mws50, 12/25/2012 8:35:25 AM     (No. 9082867)

#3... Or a Winchester Defender loaded with 8 rounds of police 00 buckshot, with 5 additional rounds in a holder on the stock.


Reply 10 - Posted by: Halfvast Conspirator, 12/25/2012 8:44:55 AM     (No. 9082874)

Or, #9, both. You know,just to be sure.


Reply 11 - Posted by: owl, 12/25/2012 8:53:33 AM     (No. 9082878)

Ditto´s #2 . The propaganda arm of the Socialist Party , who like to known as ´ the media ´ , are spinning the gun sales like they do anything else that would expose them . We aren´t arming ourselves because of a shooting , we are arming ourselves in preparation for the coming occupation of his country . By our government . They scream " loony conspiracy nuts . Right -wing extremists . Angry white males . White supremists . Racists . Black helicopter fruit ". Sam Donuts now says the USA is through with the Tea Party . They´ve been acclimating the sheep in this country to those phrases just as they have with the GOP and conservative principles . If they say it enough , they´ll begin to believe it . Those asleep are going to get a rude awakening - all the facts are right there . See that drone overhead ? . Didn´t know your e-mail is being stored ? . Forgot the president can now lock you up without even a court hearing ? . A few billion rounds of ammo for government use ? . Look , all this , they tell us , is for ´ Homeland Security ´ purposes . To fight terrorism . Why does a Dakota police dept . need and get an army tank ?. For a terrorist attack ? . I best shut up before a swat team shows up , and it can happen . I´m positive Madison would have something to say about now .


Reply 12 - Posted by: Refried, 12/25/2012 8:58:03 AM     (No. 9082881)

I´ve had Smith & Wesson insurance for many years. Never had to use it but it does give one a warm feeling knowing it is within arm reach if needed.


   

 



 
Reply 13 - Posted by: reilly, 12/25/2012 9:02:00 AM     (No. 9082885)


Don´t forget to take an NRA course and get comfortable with loading, aiming, and squeezing. Time well spent.


Reply 14 - Posted by: donnaclaire, 12/25/2012 9:15:06 AM     (No. 9082900)

Not a gun owner, don´t particularly like them and am definitely not a hunter. But I do understand our "Right" to own these weapons.

And, wow, what a Shazaam moment when I read the Chinese communists think it´s a good idea if American citizens´ guns are taken away. No kidding? Imagine that. Those little old harmless (some say) communists would just love to come over here, take our country, and make it their own. Putin would love it as well. Some people are just way too stupid to understand this.


Reply 15 - Posted by: Grambo, 12/25/2012 9:22:21 AM     (No. 9082907)

Short barrel Remington 12 gauge and double ought buckshot. It won´t go through several walls into your kids bedroom, but it´ll sweep the hallway real well.


Reply 16 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 12/25/2012 9:26:55 AM     (No. 9082911)

Like I said the other day...since Obie and Bite Me don´t think there is a problem and guns should be banned, let´s see them both walk the talk in public with no armed security details surrounding them anymore. And this includes you the msm...no more armed security walking you from your warm little office to your warm little car (that is started remotely) - since there is no problem, msm. Everyone should sign the Piers Morgan deportation petition.


Reply 17 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 12/25/2012 9:29:07 AM     (No. 9082912)

And my residence is also protected by Smith & Wesson. I practice regularly at the club range.


   

 

  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: sagman, 12/25/2012 9:31:31 AM     (No. 9082913)

President’s Select International Commission on Disarming America

Chairman: Joe Biden, Vice President of the United States
Vice Chairman: Hu Jintao, President, People’s Republic of China

Commission Members:

Senator Charles Schumer
Mayor Michael Bloomberg
Barbra Streisand
Piers Morgan
Tony Morgazzo, President, Brotherhood of Breakers and Enterers

Transcript:

JOE BIDEN: No palimentary crap: the Chair recognizes so-and-so, who wants to have a movement, I second the notion, yada, yada. . . . Just gimme ideas. I´ll run ´em by the Boss. Hu´s first.
HU: Me?
BIDEN: Yeah, you.
HU: Confucius say, ´´Outlaw bullets, only outlaws will have bullets.´´ Shutter U. S. ammunition manufacturers. China will supply America’s defective cartridge and clip needs.
BIDEN: Nice. No point ownin’ a gun that could blow up in your face. Tony?
MORGAZZO: Make use of a gun to prevent a crime a felony. My guys need protection against unlawful resistance to theft or assault.
BIDEN: Mandatory year in the clink, baby.
BARBRA STREISAND: What about high capacity magazines that. . . .
BIDEN: Covered, Babs. Gun World, Guns and Ammo, the rest, USPS has classified ´´gun porn.´´ No delivery. Piers?
MORGAN: Disarm your police, like Bobbies, to protect them.
SENATOR SCHUMER: Mayor?
BLOOMBERG: Pilot project in the works. NYPD officers will carry guns only in station houses, not on patrol where they’re more likely to be used.
BIDEN: Enough for today. I´ll issue a statement: ´´We ain’t takin´ guns away from law-abidin’ citizens.´´ Course, in the end, law-abidin´ citizens won’t be permitted to own ´em.
SCHUMER: Sweet.
BIDEN: Meeting adjourned.


Reply 19 - Posted by: jackburton, 12/25/2012 9:33:59 AM     (No. 9082915)

I own an assault rifle. My uncle brought it back from the Philippines after WWII. The bayonet is nice, too. As for what I would use on an intruder, I have a bat. I have a reproduction Lord of the Rings Glamdring sword (Gandolph´s. Stainless steel with a mean point and about a yard long. Nice balance.).

Of course, the Sig is nice if I don´t want to get too close.


Reply 20 - Posted by: Udanja99, 12/25/2012 10:24:37 AM     (No. 9082962)

All of the FBI stats are fine, but they are not why people are buying guns right now and over the last four years. People fear their government as never before.

I bought my Glock in 2000 just in case Manbearpig won the election.


Reply 21 - Posted by: Butch59, 12/25/2012 10:53:30 AM     (No. 9082985)

I have been handling firearms since I was 9yrs old. Used to go hunting with my dad. Since then I´ve handled and fired many different weapons up to and including a .50 caliber machine gun. (that was in my military days). It´s best to be highly trained by a qualified instructor and continue to use your training on the firing range. It´s useless to own a firearm and not to know how to use it, safely, and not maintain proficiency with it. I prefer a .357 magnum with a 6 inch barrel. Also, a noted, a pump .12gage is a good choice too.


Reply 22 - Posted by: pineledger, 12/25/2012 10:58:20 AM     (No. 9082987)

Follow their argument to its logical conclusion:

The Sandy Hook shooter was not a lawful firearm owner. Since legislation cannot control people´s deciding to stealing others´ (even their mothers´) firearms and create this latest carnage with them, the guns have got to go.

Believe me, that´s the way they´re thinking.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: east texas country boy, 12/25/2012 11:04:18 AM     (No. 9082995)

The AR as in AR15 doesn´t stand for assualt rifle it stands for armalite. I think people haven´t done their homework about rifles. An AR15 platform is used by the military it is just like any other semi-automatic weapon, you have to pull the trigger every time you want to fire it, unless you have converted it to an automatice firing rifle. I would hazard a guess that maybe 1 to 2% have been converted illegally to an automatic fire and that most of those are possessed by criminals and gang members. If Congress passes legislation imposing the pre ban rules that those who vote to impose will be let out at the next election. If they attempt to outlaw weapons completely they are going to have one hell of a time trying to enforce it. One only has to harken back to World War II and the fact that the Japanese had no intention of invading the US because they knew that so many Americans were armed that it would be difficult, if not impossible, to fight every body in the US who were armed. The Democrats should understand that gun owners will not give their weapons voluntarily and if they try to take them by force there will be a civil war here.


Reply 24 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/25/2012 11:08:25 AM     (No. 9083000)

2nd Amendment is about Tyranny of people who aim this thing called government at us.

Self-defense is a necessary sidebar.


Reply 25 - Posted by: safesword, 12/25/2012 11:09:34 AM     (No. 9083002)

mossberg 590 A1 here...20" barrel..that is the 9 round capacity....of course the classic ruger 10/22...which is now a 30/22..357 soon..


Reply 26 - Posted by: kbcama, 12/25/2012 11:36:39 AM     (No. 9083031)

As a grandmother living next to young grandchildren I do not have a gun (although my son next door does). I do have the wooden bat but even more effective in my opinion the far-shooting wasp spray that supposedly must be treated at the er to get relief. My 6 year old grandson got his first squirrel hunting gun last night on Christmas Eve.


Reply 27 - Posted by: WIBadger, 12/25/2012 11:37:46 AM     (No. 9083033)

Yesterday, an on-duty 30 year old female officer from a nearby peaceful suburb was found murdered sometime between 3-5 am. No one knows (at this point) what happened. This sort of thing rarely occurs around here.

I´ve never owned or been exposed to firearms but am seriously considering taking a course & purchasing a handgun for protection. Lots of choices & advice so if anyone can provide additional info on how to best proceed, I´d be most grateful. Feel free to email me (see my profile for address). Thanks & merry Christmas !


Reply 28 - Posted by: safesword, 12/25/2012 11:41:55 AM     (No. 9083040)

pardon second post..#27..go to the connection...there is a second amendment and a range page...plenty of advice there..


Reply 29 - Posted by: Soldiers Father, 12/25/2012 11:52:09 AM     (No. 9083050)

Saw Joe Scarbrough this morning state that an AR 15 with a high capacity mag could fire "thousands of rounds per/min". I flew with a mini gun that could fire 5000 rounds per/min, but it had six barrels an a 5 sec limit switch. Otherwise the barrels would melt.Don´t think Joe knows how much a thousand rounds weights. Also cheap high capacity mags tend to mal function. If they limit mags to 15 rounds, all you need to do is tape two together, and it makes them more reliable.
PS Ever fire a shotgun with a cut round?


Reply 30 - Posted by: kayjaymac, 12/25/2012 12:06:41 PM     (No. 9083068)

My hubbly and I are going gun shopping in the next few days. A shotgun for him and a girl gun for me. (Suggestions appreciated.) I am going to take lessons and get my CCW in 2013.

At this point, I am afraid of guns and I don´t want to be anymore. There is an indoor shooting range here that has ladies night where you pay $20 to rent the pistol and take a shooting lesson. I figure it´s a good start.

(My other NY resolution is to learn to paint. Look out Wine & Design!)

Merry Christmas to all freedom-loving L-Dotters.


Reply 31 - Posted by: provide, 12/25/2012 12:10:41 PM     (No. 9083072)

People forget the effectiveness and silence of a tomahawk.


Reply 32 - Posted by: shamrock, 12/25/2012 12:35:00 PM     (No. 9083089)

Good on ya #30. I have a Ruger SR9c, it is a terrific little gun that fits my girl hands and it has enough of a kick for this old gal.
I find a 40 cal is too heavy to carry all the time and the recoil is a bit much for me.

The womens classes at our range are all booked and they had to add more. I am so glad that the ladies are getting serious about firearms.

My group of gals are taking a carbine class in February, just for a refresher. We shoot twice a month then have dinner. Forget the mall, the range is where you´ll find us girlies.

Merry Christmas and a Grand New year, come what may, to all our wonderful LDotters and Miss Lucianne and crew.


Reply 33 - Posted by: Udanja99, 12/25/2012 12:46:49 PM     (No. 9083105)

#30, when I was looking to purchase a gun in 2000, I went to our local shooting range, where one can rent guns by the hour for use there, and I tried several,l,. A friend who is a deputy sheriff and on a SWAT team also loaned me his personal Glock to try out. I finally settled on a Glock 26 9mm sub compact. It´s small enough for my 60 year old female hands, has less kick than others I tried and was the weapon I was most accurate with.


Reply 34 - Posted by: master sergeant, 12/25/2012 12:49:10 PM     (No. 9083108)

Wish I could find a M2 Carbine, .30 caliber. The Founding Fathers wrote the 2nd Amendment to protect us from people like Barack Hussein Obama and his Crony in Chief, Eric Holder.


Reply 35 - Posted by: Cor-vet, 12/25/2012 12:56:18 PM     (No. 9083113)

Keep the 12 guage, 7-shot w/ 00 buck for the house, or behind the pick-up truck seat. 1 full size 1911, because I like them, and just upgraded to a Kimber Ultra- Carry w/ a 3" barrel in .45. Feel better already!


Reply 36 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 12/25/2012 1:09:24 PM     (No. 9083122)

Mossberg 590 demo in on Youtube courtesy of hickok45. Outstanding video!


Reply 37 - Posted by: TakeBackAmerica, 12/25/2012 1:13:50 PM     (No. 9083127)

Got a new Winchester shot gun for Christmas. Just the noise of the pump is a Home Defense Deterrant.


Reply 38 - Posted by: pedro4, 12/25/2012 1:47:31 PM     (No. 9083161)

#30, many women prefer revolvers vs. pistols because loading the semi-automatic clips can be difficult. Ruger makes the LCR, a nice lightweight revolver. Disclaimer: I am a happy owner of Ruger stock for the last few years.


Reply 39 - Posted by: strike3, 12/25/2012 1:50:38 PM     (No. 9083166)

#30, I would suggest a good quality .380 if your hands are really small, otherwise one of the slim 9mm´s would do just fine. Take a reputable course, practice often and also practice reloading in the dark.


Reply 40 - Posted by: WI Cynic, 12/25/2012 2:09:00 PM     (No. 9083184)

#30, I´d recommend some reading at www.corneredcat.com, then borrow several different models in several different calibers. Guns are like clothes, cars, or shoes - If someone picks it out for you, it´ll be a miracle if you like it.


Reply 41 - Posted by: walcb, 12/25/2012 2:17:21 PM     (No. 9083188)

#26, I wouldn´t count on the wasp spray. I seriously doubt it would do more than surprise the intruder and have next to zero effect on his agression. If you are going to use something like this get some pepper spray and test the range and pattern so you know how to use it. I know there is a forward that has been circulating stating that wasp spray has better range than pepper spray--I doubt it and I also doubt pyrethrins would cause immediate harm in humans.


Reply 42 - Posted by: crill, 12/25/2012 2:49:12 PM     (No. 9083208)

#26-Kimber Guardian Angel Pepper Blaster II Pepper Spray Gel 10% OC Red is a better substitute for that wasp spray. It´s currently discounted at midwayusa.com until the end of the year.


Reply 43 - Posted by: kayjaymac, 12/25/2012 4:39:30 PM     (No. 9083310)

Thanks for the advice, everyone. And for the personal e-mail as well. I will be trying out as many as I can at the range before I make a decision.

Cheers!


Reply 44 - Posted by: Currach, 12/25/2012 5:08:50 PM     (No. 9083333)

Read that Sidwell School, where Obama girls and David Gregory´s kid go, employs 11 armed guards.These are not secret service agents.


Reply 45 - Posted by: Elvira, 12/25/2012 8:21:00 PM     (No. 9083486)

Dear God, I LOVE you guys! Bht my son just called from Kuwait.. Be back soon!


Reply 46 - Posted by: antiquegolf, 12/25/2012 9:22:26 PM     (No. 9083553)

Sagman. Please don´t change.


Reply 47 - Posted by: LadyHen, 12/25/2012 10:37:26 PM     (No. 9083602)

Take a class. Get your carry permit if possible.

Find your nearest range, spend some time putting rounds through your self defense weapon. Good for you, good for the gun. Get comfortable loading and unloading your guns, loading magazines, practicing safety procedures. The guys at the range will be happy to help you and answer your questions. Good people. A gun is a tool and like any tool, you need to know how to use it safely and correctly.

Teach your kids gun safety from birth, take the mystery out of it. Take them to the range with you when you deem them old enough to follow the rules. Show them what those guns can do. It´s a powerful and lasting lesson and may very well impress them with the fact that guns must always be respected.

These are things everyone should do.


Reply 48 - Posted by: LadyHen, 12/25/2012 10:45:42 PM     (No. 9083607)

Oh and good choice #33... I am a lady and have been carrying a Glock 26 daily for 7 years now. Has never jammed, never even blinked at me when I have pulled the trigger at the range. I keep her clean and tidy. Love that gun. Highly recommend it for CC for any lady.


Reply 49 - Posted by: coldoc, 12/26/2012 9:42:48 AM     (No. 9083985)

What I have or don´t have is nobody´s business. Just sayin´.


Reply 50 - Posted by: broken01, 1/30/2013 12:02:15 PM     (No. 9148587)

Number 18 you owe me a new keyboard and monitor. I laughed so hard my Mt Dew is all over the place. Seriously anyone who wants to come to my house at 2 in the morning better be ready to meet my friends Glock and Mossberg. That is if my very large dog does eat you first.



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NPR, by Frank James    Original Article
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The public got its first look Thursday at Lois Lerner, who has gone from faceless IRS bureaucrat to the face that launched what feels like 1,000 congressional hearings and conspiracy theories. But it was only a brief sighting since she didn´t stay long at a House hearing to further probe her role in how some IRS workers came to target conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status. (Snip)She did make a short statement to declare her innocence, however. Lerner´s motivation was more transparent than much of what the IRS has done in connection with this controversy. She was determined to

Why was the Department
of Homeland Security monitoring
Tea Party IRS demonstrations?

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American Thinker, by Sally Zelikovsky    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 5/23/2013 8:09:21 AM     Post Reply
What´s so interesting about 60 tea partiers protesting the IRS in San Jose, California on Tuesday, May 21st? The fact that this bit of information was conveyed to the protesters by a Department of Homeland Security officer who was also in attendance. What was a DHS agent doing at the San Jose Tea Party protest? (snip) they weren´t just spying on us in San Jose and monitoring us in San Francisco, they were watching us throughout the entire state


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