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“An Opinion on Gun Control”
Power Line, by Steven Hayward

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Posted By:StormCnter, 12/22/2012 5:51:54 AM

Glenn Reynolds has a link to an extraordinarily thorough and convincing blog post about the “gun issue” in the aftermath of Sandy Hook that is the most impressive I’ve seen anywhere. It’s by a fellow named Larry Correia, a novelist and obvious gun expert; his blog is called Monster Hunter Nation. It is clear from the opening paragraphs that Mr. Correia knows what he is talking about. I’d love to see him up against that nitwit Piers Morgan on CNN.(Snip)So now that there is a new tragedy the president wants to have a “national conversation on guns”.

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Mr. Correia´s column is getting a lot of attention at blog sites and conservative media sites this morning. Read it if you have a chance.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Attercliffe, 12/22/2012 5:56:56 AM     (No. 9078923)

Having Correia up against Piers Morgan is like taking a Daisy Cutter to a plastic knife fight.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: cThree, 12/22/2012 6:11:57 AM     (No. 9078928)

It is almost word for word my own argument, better put, and I´ve certainly met the same outraged resistance Correia describes. A "Must Read" this week-end.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: chumley, 12/22/2012 6:31:17 AM     (No. 9078942)

Why do the progressives/liberals want to leave our children defenseless?
Seems like a reasonable question to me.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: bugger, 12/22/2012 6:34:46 AM     (No. 9078944)

Excellent article, excellent. Finally someone mentioned one factor that I immediately suspected but is rarely stated. The role of psychotropic medications. It´s like the link between abortion and breast cancer. None dare speak of this. I think part of the intentional destruction of our society has been to drug our children. They become little zombies who then grow into monsters. Parents can´t spank, but bring on the mind altering drugs. I don´t think that mass murder was part of the plan, just another horrid unintended consequence.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Kitty Myers, 12/22/2012 7:01:20 AM     (No. 9078966)

FTA: "Yes. Utah has armed teachers. We have for several years now."

I wonder what Harry Reid has to say about that?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Muncsdad, 12/22/2012 7:14:42 AM     (No. 9078981)

Lucianne, please make this a Must Read. This Ian an important article (the link to the article is what should be a MR.).

Every school principal in this country needs to read this.

MuncsMom

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 12/22/2012 7:15:35 AM     (No. 9078984)

Why do liberals want to leave our children defenseless? Probably the most thought provoking question I have heard in a long time. For myself, I would say that people who don´t value life in the womb certainly don´t value it outside of the womb. Witness all the shooting deaths in Chicago this year alone and the deaths of citizens of other countries as a result of F&F that have happened since the election of Obama. This is just for starters.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Judith, 12/22/2012 7:38:29 AM     (No. 9079002)

The teachers I know (personally)and ones I have observed here in MA....I would NOT trust them with a gun. They are a bunch of power-hungry loons. We have a lot of soldiers our potus wants on the dole, let´s hire them to guard our schools. Perhaps they could, while they were on guard, enlighten our children about their experiences and share any wisdom they may have collected living real lives, not ones lost in fairy tales (teachers).

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Reply 9 - Posted by: bpl40, 12/22/2012 7:41:23 AM     (No. 9079008)

Someone posted on this site..9mm is much faster than 811! That says it all.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: bpl40, 12/22/2012 7:42:16 AM     (No. 9079009)

Oops! Thats 911. Though 811 for gun emergencies is not a bad idea.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: LouD, 12/22/2012 7:52:02 AM     (No. 9079020)

#8, maybe you should talk to vocational instructors in a votech school. 95% of them come from industry and know what it´s like in the real world. Having taught in one, and knowing many of the teachers, I would think you might change your mind about some of them, anyway. I do agree with you about most of those who come from fantasy land schools, though.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: JackBurton, 12/22/2012 7:56:27 AM     (No. 9079030)

There are a lot of dweeb teachers but there are a lot of good ones, too. I had more than two dozen that I would have trusted with a gun.

The real problem with this idea is the minority of liberal idiot parents who would protest loudly. With that said, I believe this is THE solution and I´m glad Utah is that smart.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: krause, 12/22/2012 8:21:41 AM     (No. 9079066)

Training and arming school personnel is a good idea, on a volunteer basis. I think even some of the anti-gun teachers would be thankful that there is protection nearby.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: uno, 12/22/2012 8:36:32 AM     (No. 9079092)

Training and arming school personnel on a voluntary basis is a good idea, but good luck getting past the current level of liberal wussification in the school system these days!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: miceal, 12/22/2012 8:50:31 AM     (No. 9079115)

Excellent article...

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Reply 16 - Posted by: truthfetish, 12/22/2012 9:38:19 AM     (No. 9079207)

Imagine real school choice, presenting parents with:
--School A - the "gun-free zone" that leaves kids as sitting ducks for 12 1/2 minutes until SWAT shows up. Death toll =30 or more.
--School B - concealed carry allowed for qualified teachers, admin and staffers, and rule is openly acknowledged. Help is known to be seconds away. Death toll = zero.

My bet is a majority of parents vote "B."

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Reply 17 - Posted by: SteelTurman, 12/22/2012 10:05:37 AM     (No. 9079244)

Must read!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Mazeman, 12/22/2012 10:08:08 AM     (No. 9079247)

Don´t mandate anything. Just allow responsible people (including school personnel) to carry, like in Utah. Inject the element of uncertainty which is absent in gun-free zones.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: jimK1, 12/22/2012 10:19:39 AM     (No. 9079271)

The problem with all of this is that it doesn´t fit the liberal agenda AND it would make liberals think. Good luck with that.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Scribelus, 12/22/2012 10:48:55 AM     (No. 9079336)

We have yet to hear the position of the National Association of Zealous Instructors (NAZI), the amalgamated teachers unions. Arming even the most competent, energetic and willing teacher will be STRENG VERBOTEN!

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Chuck, 12/22/2012 10:52:15 AM     (No. 9079349)

I don´t like the idea of having armed guards in school for a couple of reasons. The cost is high and there is very little benefit. One security guard is a weak defense against surprise. If he is ambushed or neutralized at the onset, his usefulness is minimal and the loss of his gun may be the method of choice for the perpetrator to obtain a weapon. Allowing the faculty to carry weapons might be beneficial, but there are social and physical problems. As with the security officer, a surprise and the weapon can change hands.

I envision another method. Like fire extinguishers, have one or more firearms on campus for emergency use only. Unlike fire extinguishers, hide and lock them so only authorized people will know their location and have a key to access them. Select faculty members would be screened and receive training. There would be a sign something like: "This school has lethal response capability on campus" to announce the fact that a deadly threat could be met with a deadly response.

Would such a system be useful in a case like Newtown? I think it would reduce the carnage. Like a fire extinguisher, its use would probably be too late to eliminate some damage that could be done. However, unlike a fire extinguisher, a potential shooter may be deterred from even trying in the first place. He would have no way to evaluate the degree of response he would meet... a far different cry from attacking a "gun-free" zone.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: RKfree2b, 12/22/2012 10:52:38 AM     (No. 9079350)

This article makes great sense and has many good points.

After all is said and done, an armed citizenry is the best solution. Concealed carry makes it possible for anyone to be ready to respond.

Will it stop inhumanity and violence of human against human? In some ways, it will.

The issue is the mind and soul of humanity. It´s a choice each of us makes daily.

Concerning progressives/liberals(communists/marxists/redistributionists), for too many of them it is about power, control, and plunder of other people´s resources. If other people´s children suffer, it is a crisis that should not be wasted to further their agenda of more power and control and plunder of other people´s resources.

The trouble is that there are many more of these thieves/plunderers now than ever.

My prayer is that the hearts and minds of people change from thievery and plundering to respect and honoring of Godly values(10 commandments)and coming to know Jesus Christ.

Ever armed and hopeful, Merry CHRISTmas everyone, and God´s peace and comfort for all who suffer from the massacre in Connecticut, and the daily plunder of our country.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: jimK1, 12/22/2012 11:14:24 AM     (No. 9079399)

A must read and the link should be a must taught in schools across the country - but it won´t be.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: papasparky, 12/22/2012 11:30:14 AM     (No. 9079434)

FTA: So now that there is a new tragedy the president wants to have a “national conversation on guns”.

This begs the question; why would the clear thinking citizens of this great country want to grant this clown posse government we now have a spin session on this "new gun tragedy" when they already have an "old (apparently unsolvable) gun tragedy" on their plate. Tell them to continue their spinning and stonewalling on Fast and Furious until the end of their reign and then go away and leave the adults alone.

Let the local school districts solve their own security problems in the way best suited to the existing conditions and (1) fund this operation by taxes and levees subject to special elections and (2) allow all money paid in this manner by citizens of the district to be applied as a dollar for dollar credit against any federal tax they owe.

In this way federal funds are used to finance this operation, but federal ´sticky fingers´ are kept out of the cash box. The traditional "waste, fraud, and abuse" would be primarily the responsibility of the local officials who would be far more likely to prevent it.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Udanja99, 12/22/2012 11:31:11 AM     (No. 9079438)

#22, do you really think that Lanza would have even pulled into the parking lot of Sandy Hook if there had been a police car parked at the entrance to the school?

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Reply 26 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/22/2012 12:03:17 PM     (No. 9079479)

#26: exactly. Take away "gun free zone" declaration and kids are safer.

Larry Correia is one of my favorite authors so I saw this right after it was posted. He´s got the experience to be able to explain how, no, you cannot buy a gun more easily than you can vote. And he lives in a state where teachers can be armed if they´ve got the right permits and there have been no incidents.

I´m thinking of moving to Utah.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Fat Elvis, 12/22/2012 12:19:35 PM     (No. 9079495)

A long read, but well thought out. Definitely worth reading.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/22/2012 12:52:17 PM     (No. 9079543)

Sorry for second post, but the Democrat/control junkie meme now is that Columbine had an armed security guard and it didn´t help. Well, Columbine also had a rule that the police had a set up a perimeter and other various busy work before attempting to engage the shooter. They have changed those rules now. I wonder what the armed security guard was doing, what his restrictions were, how he was identified. Yep, armed security is one possibility, but a volunteer program for CCW permit holders on campus would be better. The doubt alone acts like a force field. Kind of logical, which is the problem.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: Italiano, 12/22/2012 2:15:10 PM     (No. 9079648)

Far and away the best piece I have ever read on the subject, and I´ve read a lot of them.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: jmeyer310, 12/22/2012 7:55:01 PM     (No. 9079925)

#25, please, please use Google or Bing to find out what "beg the question" actually means. It´s actually a logically flawed argument that uses one unproven assertion to support a second assertion.
I can agree that this "begs for a question to be asked", but doesn´t "beg the question".

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