The National Rifle Association stood its ground today in arguing that the answer to gun violence in schools is an armed security force that can protect students, while blaming the media and violent entertainment and video games for recent deadly shootings. "The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre said in presenting the NRA´s first comments about the Connecticut school shooting since it occurred a week ago today. LaPierre offered no olive branch to gun-control advocates who have called for tougher laws
With stupid announcements like this, the NRA deserves whatever changes the liberals pass. The NRA had a chance to make some thoughtful suggestions, but chose not to do so.
Does the NRA then also plan to arm all hospitals, stores, sporting events, individual homes where people are throwing a party, etc.? Are they upset that 20 children were killed, or merely upset that they were killed inside a school building? After all, they could have been shot at a soccer game or a birthday party; the NRA ´solution´ ignores these options.
The point isn´t where the shooting took place; the point is that a mentally unbalanced person got hold of guns and killed a bunch of people. When the NRA chooses to address that fact, I´ll listen. I´m not holding my breath.
I think Mark Levin should give a press conference on this. He would explain to the liberal dunces that we have a Bill of Rights, not a Bill of Needs, and then tell them to stop attacking our liberties.
#3, I totally disagree. Mr. LaPierre´s remarks were reasonable and appropriate, as opposed to the hysterical rants of those who believe that law-abiding, rational people should not be entrusted to own guns.
#3: hospitals and sporting events typically do have an armed presence.
I think it´s clear the NRA is saying that the children were made defenseless by gun laws. Which is relevant to the discussion. Just because the control community doesn´t want to have a discussion doesn´t mean that discussion doesn´t need to be had.
Talking about a mentally ill man killing his mother and stealing her guns doesn´t get us any further down the road to stopping the violence. It does open a discussion about the lack of options families of the mentally ill have when trying to care for them.
Let me just add that, for me, this isn´t about politics and this isn´t theoretical. This is about safety. This is personal. I have been in the situation of talking down a delusional person who had voices in his head telling him to get a gun. People with serious mental illness are living in your neighborhood right now. You and your family are depending on my success, and the success of others like me, to catch these delusional episodes and walk the tightrope the law creates to get these folks into treatment before they can carry out the delusions in their heads.
Now, you can choose to make our jobs harder, or you can choose to make our jobs easier. This has absolutely nothing to do with your rights to guns. But do stop and think: do you want the next delusional person who hears voices saying, "Get a gun!" to be successful...or do you want to make the process of getting a gun much harder for him, thereby protecting your neighbors and your family? That is the issue. The NRA completely missed the boat on this one.
I agree with the NRA. Their issue is to protect the right to own a gun. You want better mental health laws, go after the ACLU...it is that group that keeps these crazies on the street. I think you are the one who missed the boat on this one #7.
Any laws passed will make it harder for the law abiding to acquire guns, not the crazies. If the Principal had been armed and trained she and many students would still be alive. Would the perp have even tried?
I saw this on cspan last night when the mikes would permit. A bunch of gun haters were sprinkled through the audience and began screeching and hollering against Wayne. I have no idea why they did not have police come and arrest them. Actually, I am thinking of some worse stuff that should have been done to them.
It´s not helpful, imo, to only address one aspect of this. Curbing gun rights and nothing else won´t come close to solving this. Lunatics need to be involuntarily committed. They are a danger to the rest of us! Hollywood needs to change and the glorification of violence in general needs to change. The media are also a big player here -
When all of these are placed on the table THEN it will be resonable to talk about gun control.
There are a lot of mentally ill people out there, but only a fraction of them are dangerous to themselves or others. In this country mentally ill people can vote and most of them vote for the liberal Democrats because of their support for expansive social programs and causes. The liberal Democrats know all that and that is why you will never hear a liberal Democrat politician directly blame a mentally ill person for any crime that he or she commits, no matter how heinous. The liberal Democrats consider the mentally ill to have a disability, and that they are in need of help, that of course only liberal Democrat governance can give them. That´s why the liberal Democrats will always cast off the blame on a gun, on the Republicans, or on the NRA anytime a mentally ill person commits mass murder.
I wonder what the drunk driving limit was for the Cowboy that had a DUI manslaughter and was driving without a license also which is illegal. Doesn´t this prove that lowering the limit doesn´t do that much good in the real world but MADD keeps pushing for lower limits?
Why did they have to set up an uninsured motorists fund unless there were tons of people driving without insurance?The point is there´s people who just don´t give a damn about laws.Getting rid of the death penalty in a lot of places was a bad idea also.
Just when I think I am going to sit these threads out... I understand #3´s frequent posts. I really do. I also agree that the mentally ill should not have guns. The problem is, what do we do when they do get them? The only realistic answer is to respond with guns of our own. The NRA´s answer makes more sense than anything I have seen yet. My small backwoods community is loaded with retired and ex military and police, as well as concealed carry permit holders. I bet if the schools asked, they would get plenty of volunteers to hang around and chat with the lunch ladies and secretaries for a few hours a week. I would certainly be willing to volunteer. The first thing they should do is take down those stupid gun free zone signs.
No such thing as olive branches to hardcore nuts like the left.If they weren´t all or nothing we wouldn´t have a debt crisis.Somebody has to show some backbone or the left will steamroll right over us.
i just saw where the 49er´s kicker got a death threat on twitter. That´s how bad its getting with these nuts.If they want to crack down on something,it should be death threats on the internet.
I think Ben Franklin summed it up pretty well when he said: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." The second amendment is not about hunting and in times like this I´m sticking to my guns and religion!
No number of guns in the hands of individuals will cure the hatred in the human heart that impels us to violence against one another. And no combination of laws and ´reeducation´ will succeed at that, either.
Only God has the power to transform our hearts like that, and only divine mercy can save us from ourselves and each other.
Any strategy that doesn´t begin with prayer and heavily emphasize prayer throughout the process is doomed to fail.
#3, WE don´t deserve ´whatever´ liberals may pass. NY state being the liberal kingdom it is will DO something. The problem is all they will DO is harass legal gun owners in this state. They won´t do anything to go after the criminals and insane criminals in this state, that´s harder to do. If you knew what a citizen has to do to own a handgun in this state, it would address every concern you have about insane people arming up, and then some. The problem with wishing for some ´action´ to control high capacity, semi, whatever, firearms is NY´s gun death record vs Vermont´s which takes the opposite approach to gun ´control.´ Also, legal, concealed carry permit holders in NY do not commit crime. The numbers are statistically irrelevant.
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