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was planning to have him committed
to psychiatric home and targeted the
children that she loved more than him´
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Sandy Hook gunman ´feared his mother
was planning to have him committed
to psychiatric home and targeted the
children that she loved more than him´

Daily Mail [UK], by Meghan Keneally

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 12/19/2012 5:46:13 AM

Police are still searching for the motive of Adam Lanza´s killing spree, but one working theory is that he was angry that his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility because he was becoming too difficult for her to handle alone.[Snip] Fox News quotes a neighborhood figure, whose father works as the pastor of an area church, as saying that the 20-year-old shooter found out that his mother was in the legal process of having him committed and was upset. That news, coupled with his jealousy of the time she allegedly spent with a group of kindergarteners

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Sfacheem, 12/19/2012 6:38:07 AM     (No. 9073770)

This was the early consensus.

What I still have yet to understand is how the woman allowed access to her firearms to this whack job.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Country Boy, 12/19/2012 6:51:49 AM     (No. 9073786)

#1, yes the gun lock was a mistake. But of course he could have killed her any number of other ways.

I blame the local government (city/county) and probably ACLU. The mother wanted the young man committed. Seems nobody lifted a finger.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 12/19/2012 6:53:10 AM     (No. 9073790)

Complete fabrication without a shred of hard evidence. This headline was designed to place fear in people. See, if one takes appropriate steps, step as the ACLU doesn´t endorse, and commits people to receive mental illness treatment, well, it just might trigger the next mass murderer. So we can´t PO the nut jobs off cause it might set them off. Nothing about the fact they have no evidence to support the headline.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: DCGIRL, 12/19/2012 7:05:24 AM     (No. 9073807)

The blame needs to go to his mother. She had the responsibility to have these locked up so that this nut would not get his hands on them. Even if he took a knife and killed his mother, he still could not do any harm outside his home. Or it would have been harder for him to get to the firearms.

Any one in their right mind would not leave a loaded pistol around a child. This young man would fall in this category.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Country Boy, 12/19/2012 7:18:00 AM     (No. 9073824)

#4, we don´t know any details of Mrs. Lonza´s gun safe. I assume it existed. Maybe she had the lock changed, and she thought it was OK, maybe the son got a key anyway. He figured it out.

But it doesn´t matter.

We are all supposed to go to the government for help. She did, filed the docs to have him committed. And seems all her guns were registered. Gov would also know that. 2+2=4. Government is in authority. Government did nothing. They are to blame.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: altoona, 12/19/2012 7:35:17 AM     (No. 9073854)

He allegedly tried to buy a gun himself, so maybe she did have them locked. He was obviously a clever fellow with time on his hands, so I´m guessing he figured out how to gain access.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: dman, 12/19/2012 7:38:49 AM     (No. 9073858)

While I´ve agreed in prior posts with #1´s position, this particular story is important for another reason. It raises the question: What are the "sources" of all this disparate information - the "fog of tragedy" if you will - and why aren´t these sources held accountable for propagating misinformation? First the mother was a teacher at the school, then she was only a substitute, then she had no connection whatsoever, now she volunteered there. Which is it? For what purpose? Time to hold some feet to the fire. A logical conclusion from the timeline was that this seemed to be a targeted attack, and that there is probably a link why he shot his mother and proceeded directly to that particular classroom. There appears to be some deliberate obfuscation here. More to learn as the information and misinformation comes out in drips and drabs. Yet the libs are already crafting legislation to "fix" this problem as we struggle to separate truth from speculation and outright lies in this case.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: spengler, 12/19/2012 7:41:08 AM     (No. 9073862)

Mr president! There has been a school shooting!
Who were the victims?
Little white kids.
Awright! I knew it was gonna be a great day!

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Reply 9 - Posted by: heartlandgal, 12/19/2012 7:53:06 AM     (No. 9073890)

I wonder if the mom talked with Adam´s dad about how hard Adam was becoming to handle? I do feel sorry for the mother--feel like I know her.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: ann_n_GA, 12/19/2012 9:06:52 AM     (No. 9074041)

What is the actual truth? No one may ever know. But, I´ve seen the pics of the home of the shooter and his Mother. His Dad is a VP of Finance at GE. It ´appear´s there were resources to get this kid into a private psychiatric facility. The parents should have been in communication and taking action about their son - together.

In GA, we have 1013s and 2013s. (1013 is mental health and 2013 is ETOH and drug). 2 people can go sign a legal statement, that a person is a danger to himself or others. As soon as this is signed, the local authorities go pick that person up, take them to a local mental health facility or hospital, and the person is held without the ability to sign out, for business 72 hours for evaluation.

I assume, that each state has similar laws on the books - emergencies happen.

People have a responsibility to take action when we observe and/or are aware of another´s dangerous actions. This Mother, knowing she lived with a very unstable son, had a responsibility to lock and store her guns - or remove them from the house.

Speculations as to the why on everyone´s part. But his fear of being committed makes very good sense to me.



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Reply 11 - Posted by: sliver of truth, 12/19/2012 9:07:08 AM     (No. 9074042)

Earlier this year, Connecticut considered passing an AOT (“assisted outpatient treatment”) law-which would allow for people with mental illness to be forcibly treated before they committed a dangerous crime. It failed, due to protests from “civil liberties” groups.
The ACLU won and children were murdered. The ACLU, rather than the NRA, should be held accountable.


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Reply 12 - Posted by: JAN, 12/19/2012 9:07:24 AM     (No. 9074043)

These new theories are useless.

Seems that the so called investigation will go on and on and on until it´s no longer part of the news cycle.

I no longer trust a single word coming the news conferences.

When they get caught is outright fabrications they blame ´social media´.



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Reply 13 - Posted by: OhMy, 12/19/2012 9:39:39 AM     (No. 9074111)

This mother has been unfairly blamed because of the high emotion. It sound like she did what she could and she was also a victim. As for forced mental health treatment check out the link between psychotropic drugs and violent crimes. These drugs are addictive and coming off of them quickly can send someone over the edge!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: GardenGal, 12/19/2012 10:03:41 AM     (No. 9074194)

That same report said there were no psychotropic prescriptions found in the house.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: harper, 12/19/2012 4:17:49 PM     (No. 9074927)

Acknowledge the young man´s issues, but I have no sympathy for a pampered self-centered coward, which is what he was.

Cowardice seems to be a hallmark of these types of gutless predators, who seek out the progressive´s gun free-zones and then kill themselves at the first sign of real resistance. Real resistance means someone with a gun.

A society truly interested in school safety would ensure that someone in every school is trained and armed to deal with these incidents.

It is simplistic to want only teachers armed. Many are diehard Dems and unsuitable. Any bonafide employee with a CCW and some focused training, be they support staff, management or educator could do this. It would be far better that the cowards not know who may be armed, only that the liklihood of an armed response is high.

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