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Benghazi review finds
systematic security faults

Associated Press, by Matthew Lee

Original Article

Posted By:Dreadnought, 12/18/2012 11:06:24 PM

WASHINGTON -- An independent panel charged with investigating the deadly Sept. 11 attack in Libya that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans has concluded that systematic management and leadership failures at the State Department led to "grossly" inadequate security at the mission in Benghazi. "Systematic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus of the State Department resulted in a Special Mission security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place," the panel said.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: bubber, 12/18/2012 11:33:17 PM     (No. 9073607)

Wow...The president and his minions are incompetent...who knew?...

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Reply 2 - Posted by: sailor43, 12/18/2012 11:44:55 PM     (No. 9073612)

"Systematic" doesn´t mean decision makers are absolved of responsibility --- yet I understand the report does not recommend any pursuit of disciplinary action.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: dr.lakerman, 12/18/2012 11:48:11 PM     (No. 9073613)

The obese assistant secretary of state for security, or some such thing, Charlene Lamb, acknowledged that Sullivan had made repeated requests for additional security, but that she, after consulting with ´senior state department officials´ decided that it would be better to train more locals for security duties. Who were the senior state department officials? Had to include hillary. And such a decision would be typical of the arrogant hillary we knew as first lady. (She has hidden that attitude at State, but it still is what she is.)

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Reply 4 - Posted by: belwhatter, 12/18/2012 11:54:17 PM     (No. 9073618)

Does the word whitewash fit here?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: janylou, 12/19/2012 12:35:33 AM     (No. 9073636)

That was my thought #4. They don´t blame anyone and everyone did their job? If that is the case, then why are there 4 dead Americans and many more wounded and no one came to help? Point the finger of blame where it belongs on two people, Obama and Clinton!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: garyhope, 12/19/2012 1:35:19 AM     (No. 9073666)

You think?

The whole Obama and Democratic so called government is a "systematic security fault". They´re not the least bit interested in defending our country or freedom anywhere.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Distorted, 12/19/2012 1:50:02 AM     (No. 9073668)

Duck & Cover.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/19/2012 4:28:40 AM     (No. 9073700)

Now I know why the Hildebeast faked a convenient concussion.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: pineledger, 12/19/2012 7:02:03 AM     (No. 9073800)

She had to have seen the draft.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Judith, 12/19/2012 7:04:43 AM     (No. 9073806)

Sum total? Hillary´s fault, as usual. Her life-long career is being a toady to powerful men and on the receiving end of their contempt and kicked-to-the-curb attitude.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: LZK, 12/19/2012 7:10:36 AM     (No. 9073813)

The obama administration reminds me more and more of the bubba clinton administration. Blame anyone handy and smile.....

Looks like another "white trailor trash defense"......

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Jebediah, 12/19/2012 7:13:14 AM     (No. 9073818)

And Hillary still absent (as is our President):" lst an Australian wine tasting, then flu (?) and finally a fall???????? HOW does the woman maintain her ratings---people just not paying attention? And now we have this poor ex Marine in a Mexican jail on a bogus charge and with the parents being besieged for $ by the "police", and neither she nor Obama say a thing---Carney says Obama was not aware! WE get the government we deserve!!!!!!!!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: steelbreeze, 12/19/2012 7:41:28 AM     (No. 9073863)

impeach obama NOW

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Reply 14 - Posted by: krause, 12/19/2012 7:41:59 AM     (No. 9073865)

´Mismanagement caused this, no discipline required now, but, boy, if this happens again, there will be consequences!´ Good Lord. This administration is a bad joke.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: RCFlyer98, 12/19/2012 7:55:22 AM     (No. 9073896)

As the teaser headline was written, it is enough to give a girl a headache. Even get dizzy, pass out and suffer a concussion.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: jackson, 12/19/2012 8:16:46 AM     (No. 9073936)

Can´t be... We´ve been told repeatedly and ad nauseum that Hitlery is the most accomplished and successful Secretary of State ever! Better than Jefferson even.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: suncitypro, 12/19/2012 8:19:22 AM     (No. 9073939)

Systematic goes to the entire system--systematic failure means the system in place and those operating this system FAILED--And they failed at a horribly deadly level. And no one in this so-called administration owns any of this failure--NO ONE! This country is as leaderless as it has been in its history.
Honor and Pride in our White House is gone.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Crosscut, 12/19/2012 8:20:46 AM     (No. 9073940)

There should be prosecutions but there won´t be. The double standard is in play. The GOP should attack Hillary relentlessly to discourage her presidential ambitions.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Chiritwo, 12/19/2012 8:34:43 AM     (No. 9073967)

I want to know who gave the order to "stand down". That´s the one who signed the death warrant for the 4 brave people. For some reason that info isn´t coming out. Is it a wonder why "we the people" have stopped listening.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: TheMotherCO, 12/19/2012 8:37:18 AM     (No. 9073970)

Review was as expected - while the drunk hag that is sos danced with bottles drunk as a skunk, she ignored appeals for help. Too right, flapears and hag should be run out of town on a spiked rail, along with their entourage and everyone that voted for this moron in the WH and that goes double for the blacks that still defend this worthless clod.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: walcb, 12/19/2012 8:38:11 AM     (No. 9073972)

Security was inadequate because Benghazi was not a consulate, it was a CIA mission. Why does the media allow this charade to continue. Don´t answer that, I know.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: avikingman, 12/19/2012 8:42:23 AM     (No. 9073977)

State Dept. spokesman Lamb personifies this admin´s spokes-blather cyborg.

While Hilary, amidst bottles of shampoo, readies for 2016.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: JAN, 12/19/2012 8:46:40 AM     (No. 9073988)

We lost two embassies in Africa with significant loss of life. This was during Mr. Grifter´s term in office.

Nothing ever changes.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Rusino, 12/19/2012 9:04:13 AM     (No. 9074038)

The only thing I can think of to to say is, The Lunitics are in Charge of The Asylem!

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Grambo, 12/19/2012 9:08:14 AM     (No. 9074044)

If the beast can do this much damage at State, imagine what her presidency would look like.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/19/2012 9:12:20 AM     (No. 9074053)

Last paragraph: "The Board found no evidence of any undue delays in decision making or denial of support from Washington or from the military combatant commanders," it said. To the contrary, the report said the evacuation of the dead and wounded 12 hours after the initial attack was due to "exceptional U.S. government coordination and military response" that helped save the lives of two seriously wounded Americans.

This was heroism from the Seals at the Annex. They were initially denied permission and told to wait until Command checked with "local security" (you know, the one who fled just before the shooting started). All pleas for help from the Seals were ignored. How can AP print such excrement knowing that it is a whitewash?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: Clinger, 12/19/2012 9:25:50 AM     (No. 9074083)

We are offered mismanagement and incompetence as a distraction to keep us from discussing the deliberate risks taken to avoid contradicting a political message. Sad truth is a good portion of the voting public will fall for it like Hilliary´s boo boo.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: donnaclaire, 12/19/2012 9:38:26 AM     (No. 9074108)

I believe these people (in particular Obama and Hillary) think they´re just a little bit above the rest of us, and should not be held accountable or be criticized for anything that goes wrong on their watch.

The four brave Americans who were killed were relying on these people to carry out their responsibilities, and they did not. I don´t believe for a minute that Hillary actually suffered an injury, keeping her from testifying. When it was reported she would be testifying about this incident I wondered at the time, "How is she going to get out of this one?" Well, she did. These people are so calculating - and slippery.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: joew9, 12/19/2012 9:53:24 AM     (No. 9074150)

By the time the most revealing and damning stuff comes out the news media will react with "old story, already covered"


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Reply 30 - Posted by: dbdiva, 12/19/2012 9:55:32 AM     (No. 9074166)

PHOOEY!!! This ´review´ is not worth the time spent on it but it was exactly what I expected ~ bupkis. We have an Administration (and I use that term loosely) who is totally unwilling to be held account for ANYTHING.
I suppose I just have to sit right, have patience and wait for these folks to receive the divine justice they so richly deserve.




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Reply 31 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/19/2012 10:57:00 AM     (No. 9074303)

Bull(cough)

Trot out a street theatre script that damns someone low on the pole, deflecting the real questions.

1. Why no armed elite Marines in a war torn Islamic nation known for jihadist recruitment?

2. Why did Hillary hire locals? To be overseen by an inexperienced British team with batons?

3. Where was the Benghazi police for seven hours?

4. Where was the Libyan military for seven hours?

5. Who the hell said STAND DOWN when rescues were set in motion?

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY why is Hillary arming Al-Queda??

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Reply 32 - Posted by: geronimo, 12/19/2012 11:12:59 AM     (No. 9074345)

and...

6. When was the funeral (not that sham of a memorial may Obama and Clinton rot). Can´t find mention of it in searches. One would expect *some* coverage of an American Ambassador who died in the service of his country.

7. And how are those 30 +/- survivors doing these days? Everybody feeling well?

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Bla Bla, 12/19/2012 12:32:21 PM     (No. 9074496)

What the three posts above me said.

Yes, we´re going to have to wait for the next set of open hearings coming. I´m glad my Senator Inhoffe came out saying it was a blatant cover up. Hillary fainted too soon. She will be quite well when these hearings start.

When I think of how this tragedy was covered (not) and how it would have been if GW Bush had been president, my blood boils.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Momma Walton, 12/19/2012 1:01:38 PM     (No. 9074547)

Just more swept under the carpet.

Remember. Obama won!

Had Obama lost, there would have been a real investigation, but, that´s how life is in these so-called United States!

Only when we as a nation make a stand for righteousness will there be real investigations, truth brought forward and those guilty suffer the consequences of their actions.

The liberal media will ever back up this current administration.

Sadly, it may only come to pass on Judgment Day when the truth is finally known.

God is not mocked - what we sow, we reap! That in itself is a reminder to those who have usurped God´s power and set themselves up as judge/jury, freeing those who support them and condemning those who have the bravery/audacity to stand up against political correctness which has taken over the God-given right of freedom.

Pray for America! We are at a place in history where we will sink or swim, depending upon our trust in God, His Word and His will/way to again be honored and obeyed!

Is this the way Hitler began? Power has become the means by which this government controls everything! What happened to our democratic system and the 3 branches of government to keep order throughout the land.

Merry Christmas to all who cherish God´s Gift (Jesus) to mankind! May all who receive Him rejoice in His presence within and one day to be recognized by our government! That is the prayer I daily pray!

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Reply 35 - Posted by: TruthandJustice, 12/19/2012 1:43:22 PM     (No. 9074625)



1. Exactly what was slain Ambassador Christopher Stevens actually doing in Benghazi on that day?

2. There has yet to be any official disclosure from American sources regarding cause of death for Stevens or the other three killed during the terrorist attack. Were they raped as reported in the Lebanon press?

3. Was Barack Obama inside the Situation Room during the attack? If not, why not?

4. And who then was?

5. Who gave the stand down order thus allowing Stevens and the other Americans to be killed?

6. And, what exactly was the Turkish Counsel meeting with Ambassador Stevens on 9/11 for..how did he walk by the Terrorists unscathed?

7. Lockheed resignation of Chief Operating Officer after he tripled sales in 2011 for same reason as Petraeus...another affair...stinks to the Missile high heavens...speaking of Lochkeed´s Missile sales and shipments to Libya...where is that investigation of a president conducting an illegal, unapproved WAR ...without any approval by Congress

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Reply 36 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/19/2012 2:13:23 PM     (No. 9074677)

Don´t they mean "systemic"?

The chain of command went like this:

Hillary Clinton (should resign)

Patrick Kennedy (should definitely resign)

Boswell (resigned)

Charlene Lamb (resigned) - it was she who directly managed security staffing and budgeting for same for 280+ embassies and consulates throughout the world. However the underlying development of the formula for defending Benghazi - the type and numbers of security personnel - came from further up the line. That would be Boswell. But one had the feeling, watching the House Oversight Committee hearing in early October, that neither of these would have developed a specific security plan without Kennedy´s input and/or approvel.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: SoCalGal, 12/19/2012 2:17:34 PM     (No. 9074687)

Systemic, not systematic.

Looks like they have now changed the headline at the source. The article says "systemic".



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Reply 38 - Posted by: Momma Walton, 12/19/2012 2:28:43 PM     (No. 9074721)

The answer for America is found in Psalm 81. If you will read this one, insert America for Israel, you will understand what is going on.

It starts by:

Sing aloud to God our strength; Make a joyful shout to the God of Jacob.
(this is our heritage as Christians, sons of Abraham through the covenant)

God goes on to say how often He has come to our aid, delivered US from evil here/abroad.

Vs. 8 says: Hear, O My people, and I will admonish you! O Israel (America), if you will listen to Me! There shall be no foreign god among you; Nor shall you worship any foreign god. I am the Lord your God, Who brought you out of the land of Egypt. Oopen your mouth wide and I will fill it.

But, my people would not heed My voice, and Israel(America) would have none of Me, so I gave them over to their own stubborn heart, to walk in their own counsels. Oh, that My people would listen to Me, that Israel (America) would walk in My ways! I would soon subdue their enemies, and turn My hand against their adversaries. The haters of the Lord would pretend submission to Him, but their fate would endure forever. He would have fed them also with the finest wheat and with honey from the rock I would have satisfied you.

Selah - (stop and consider this!) Amen

We need to make a stand for Righteousness in our God-given country (America!)

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Reply 39 - Posted by: mainecoonmama, 12/19/2012 2:41:05 PM     (No. 9074751)

Most of the American public simply do not care about this issue. With the aid of the MSM, this will eventually disappear. A few Republicans who progressively pursue this, will be branded extremists and sore loosers.

This is the country we have now. I predict Hillary could be president in 2016 if she wants it bad enough. That is, unless, the Democrats run another person of color.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/19/2012 4:49:50 PM     (No. 9074985)

#38

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Reply 41 - Posted by: Ida Lil, 12/19/2012 8:09:54 PM     (No. 9075215)

Since all these agencies are under the administration tent one person and one only is responsible for all acts by any one of them.
That one is currently B.Obama.
If he did not personally order the stand down he set the parameters for the operation of that agency --he is guilty of the cover up.
His run around the Constitution has resulted in murder mayhem and lies.
Also the non American guards supposedly on site as protection are now disclosed as being on strike for higher wages. Just who was paying those wages? We know who and why we are paying foreigners instead of Americans?

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Reply 42 - Posted by: artlover, 12/19/2012 8:37:04 PM     (No. 9075272)

Nothing will EVER become of this. Remember they are denmocrats and they can get away with anything. Hillary won´t tell anything, Obama won´t tell anything and it will die right there. That is the way everything is going to go for the next four years (and maybe more than that) so get used to it........

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Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:52:52 PM     Post Reply
Imagine a vendor on the National Mall, selling burgers and dogs, who hasn’t paid his rent in 20 years. He refuses to recognize his landlord, the National Park Service, as a legitimate authority. Every court has ruled against him, and fines have piled up. What’s more, the effluents from his food cart are having a detrimental effect on the spring grass in the capital. Would an armed posse come to his defense, aiming their guns at the park police? Would the lawbreaker get prime airtime on Fox News, breathless updates in the Drudge Report, a sympathetic ear from Tea Party Republicans?

Illinois Dems to offer $100 million in
taxpayer money to lure Obama library site

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Investor´s Business Daily, by Andrew Malcolm    Original Article
Posted By: SurferLad- 4/18/2014 9:15:50 AM     Post Reply
First, the good news: We are close enough to the end of the Obama presidency for his crowd to talk about a presidential library. Now, the bad news: Obama´s retirement is still 1,008 days distant. Plenty of time though to round up the dough to build it somewhere. Figure they need Solyndra-style money, at least $500 million. The last two presidents – Bill Clinton and George W. Bush -- built their legacy edifices totally with private money. [Snip] However, Obama supporters have a different take. They think taxpayers should put up $100 million in public money for Obama´s library.


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