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Exclusive: Fear of being
committed may have caused
Connecticut gunman to snap

Fox News, by Jana Winter

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 12/18/2012 4:18:33 PM

NEWTOWN, Conn. – The gunman who slaughtered 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school may have snapped because his mother was planning to commit him to a psychiatric facility, according to a lifelong resident of the area who was familiar with the killer’s family and several of the victims’ families. Adam Lanza, 20, targeted Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown after killing his mother early Friday because he believed she loved the school “more than she loved him,” said Joshua Flashman, 25, who grew up not far from where the shooting took place.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: athina, 12/18/2012 4:24:27 PM     (No. 9073158)

But I thought the reporting was that she had nothing to do with the school and no one there had heard of her; this was after they said that she was a kindergarten teacher and he had killed her at the school.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Sfacheem, 12/18/2012 4:38:49 PM     (No. 9073175)

I´m a second amendment advocate.

That said, Mrs. Lanza obviously failed to secure her weapons properly. Especially if she was "at her wits end" with Adam and she knew he could handle guns. He should never have had access to them. This was mental illness meets bad gun owner.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 12/18/2012 4:40:53 PM     (No. 9073180)

Law enforcement and public officials are responsible for the information void that inevitably follows such attention-grabbing incidents. They deliberately withhold information and dribble it out as slowly as they can, almost like it pains them to let go of it. This has happened after every single such event. It is clear that "the system" has not caught up with modern telecommunications and is trying to adhere to protocols that were developed for an era now long gone.

The failure of officials to provide information and the resulting information void not only leaves room for, it actively demands filling in by rumors, theories, mistaken reporting, and the activation of every kind of agenda and personal hobbyhorse. We have seen that here. It is going on all over the world. It is a natural, inevitable, healthy human response to gripping, horrifying events.

One might say that journalists ought to be more responsible and exercise more restraint. One would be perfectly correct to say such a thing. One would also be daft if thought it was going to happen. Journalists are reacting to the information void like everyone else.

Someone needs to notify public officials that we are now living in the 21st century, not the 20th century. Stonewalling, dragging their feet and being stingy with information not only causes needless confusion, it is capable of inflicting grave and lasting social damage as a consequence of the erroneous narratives developed to fill in the information void.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Country Boy, 12/18/2012 5:23:16 PM     (No. 9073240)

OK, the mother was trying to have the son committed. I would like to know who in the local courts system was holding this up. Everybody is screaming for Gun Control. How about these government bureaucrats who are completely worthless. Why are we paying huge "top dollar" taxes for idiots in the government???

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Reply 5 - Posted by: jond, 12/18/2012 5:32:02 PM     (No. 9073249)

He should not have known. Was the leak in the court system, or did his mother slip?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/18/2012 5:35:32 PM     (No. 9073253)

The young man responsible for this "may have" story is 25, and was "familiar with" the shooter´s family, lived near where the shooting occurred, etc.

All of this "insider information" seems highly speculative - he "heard it" from someone else".

We all need to simmer down and get on with our own families and Christmas. Mourn the babies lost. Knock off the amateur sleuthing and psychoanalyis. We don´t know enough, don´t have enough good information, to be so engaged in either.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Country Boy, 12/18/2012 5:39:51 PM     (No. 9073259)

Just to add to #4, the woman House Republican who was shot in AZ was shot by a man who was already documented by college police as having severe issues. But that information cannot be provided to other law enforcement officials.

Face it folks. We have a subclass of criminally insane people capable of heinous crimes. But they are protected by the same kind of insane laws that protect you from finding out what Food Stamp recipients in your town get for free every day at the store you pay top dollar at.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Country Boy, 12/18/2012 5:50:33 PM     (No. 9073280)

Re: #6, have to disagree.

"All of this "insider information" seems highly speculative - he "heard it" from someone else".
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A request to have somebody committed is not casual. It is a document. It either exists or it doesn´t. If it does exist, it makes all the "Gun Control" discussions pretty stupid. What about all our "gold plated" state, county and local government payrolls. Why are we paying these people huge salaries and pensions if they can´t act on information to control dangerous people???

We are hearing very little news of this. Probably because the root of the problem is not "Gun Control", but inept government.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: strike3, 12/18/2012 6:11:01 PM     (No. 9073328)

My personal theory for the reason that Adam attacked school children is that he learned to hate "normal" kids because he could not be like them and decided to take his anger over his deficiency out on them.

Until a better reason is produced, I´m going with that.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 12/18/2012 6:46:02 PM     (No. 9073365)

Who knows if this will prove to be the true and lasting account? The facts and the stories constructed from them change almost hourly.

But this version makes the most sense. It could explain just about everything. His motives for the school slaughter would have been to continue killing his mother and to get revenge on others for being normal while he was not. I would guess that the principal motive was to kill his mother as many ways and as completely as he could. Since she was already dead -shot multiple times in the head- he couldn´t kill her anymore. He had to kill the next best thing, children or proxies for children she loved more than him.

I have a feeling this version might be the true one. Time will tell.

He had undoubtedly had psychiatric evaluation and treatment, including medications. The next step will be to blame the therapist(s) for not preventing this. When it is discovered what medications he was prescribed, they will be blamed. In the extremely rare case in which no medications were prescribed, there will be blame for not prescribing medication. The search for scapegoats, closure, and fixation of belief is urgent in many quarters. Gun control nuts have already found theirs. Other people have other pet peeves and have found theirs. The rest of us don´t really know what happened or why but are guessing that a very complex set of forces were involved that created "a perfect storm" that led to the massacre.

Authorities should release all information they have thus far acquired to the public. Failure to do so simply creates a poisonous atmosphere in which every kind of theory is bound to sprout and flourish.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Dignitary Protection, 12/18/2012 6:56:19 PM     (No. 9073375)

You don´t kill beautiful little children.

I hope Adam Lanza is burning in hell for eternity.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: stablemoney, 12/18/2012 8:13:58 PM     (No. 9073457)

I don´t know what happened, but the situation described here is being endured by many mothers in this nation. I know 2 myself. A woman cannot physically control a young male when enraged and out of their mind. And it is not only difficult to get help, most of it is very expensive and does not help at all. The authorities take the same responsibility they did under the Fort Hood situation. They transfer the problem to someone else.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Urgent Fury, 12/18/2012 8:24:39 PM     (No. 9073469)

#3 that´s a very good point.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Bur Oak, 12/18/2012 9:19:22 PM     (No. 9073513)

The law is an ass, especially when it comes to the mentally ill. I have experience. Everyone involved in a mental health situation is held captive by laws that help and protect no one important. They help only some politician or activist feel good, gather votes, or contributions.

Another point, single parent families are ill equiped to deal with these mentally ill children. We´ve made divorce too easy and acceptable.

Additionally, we have cheapen life by making abortion cheap and readly availble.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: KimoSaavy, 12/18/2012 9:56:41 PM     (No. 9073531)

I agree with #3. The information clamp down is because these guys in CT are getting their instructions from those who seek to exploit the situation.

The gun angle has been weakened by the emerging profile of these two people. A lonesome mother dealing with an insane son whose condition was quickly deteriorating. So the effort to paint these two people as white supremacist, rednecks or whatever is not jiving and has been a big fail. Although these two individuals are ultimately culpable her story matters because it can provide a snapshot of her crumbling world. Her letter to her family paints somewhat of a different story. She was downsizing from her big home. She was afraid of being alone in that big house. She was recently divorced and it seems the family abandoned these two. She was in denial but maybe the exhaustion of caring for her son got to her. What support if any did she get from the state? Was she fighting the state and his psychiatrists about commitment? Is there any expectation this will come out if that is the case. Rest assure the ACLU is scrambling getting their talking points together to wash the blood off their hands.

The dilemma facing the powers that be is how exclude the mental illness angle so to exploit this story. The MSM and some politicians don´t care about what happened and this is just an opportunity for them to advance their agenda and ratings. But the rest of us need to learn all the variables and explore prevention.


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Reply 16 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 12/19/2012 1:02:05 AM     (No. 9073647)

I feel bad for the families going through this non stop intrusion in their lives while grieving. When they get all the fact straight, get back to us.



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Reply 17 - Posted by: Hobbiest, 12/19/2012 9:53:32 AM     (No. 9074153)

The mental illness scenario doesn´t fit the narrative, not does it offer politicians and the media a cheap fix.

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