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Gay Participation Hurts Neither
Military Nor Marriage

Reason, by A. Barton Hinkle

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Posted By:zoidberg, 12/17/2012 2:32:25 PM

Did you catch the big story out of Afghanistan the other day—the one about how a U.S. platoon was decimated in a nighttime raid? The soldiers couldn’t fight effectively because their unit cohesion had disintegrated after one of them mentioned he is gay. How about the recent study showing it is now impossible to train new jarheads at Parris Island? Marine recruits are so afraid a gay bunkmate might be eyeballing them in the shower that they can’t follow even basic commands.(Snip)You didn’t hear about those developments? Don’t be alarmed. Nobody did—because they never happened.  Yet they certainly should have

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Javelin, 12/17/2012 2:40:14 PM     (No. 9071192)

Maybe, maybe not. Congress considered none of this when changing the law. Soldiers, sailors, marines, and airmen will do what they need to do to implement the policy seamlessly. That does not mean there will be no downstream effects.
Roe v. Wade wasn´t going to result in hunreds of thousands of abortions nor diminish resopect for human life. That´s what we were told. What think you now?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: lwgii, 12/17/2012 2:42:43 PM     (No. 9071202)

Most people have not heard of Benghazi or Fast and Furious. Because a story has not appeared in the Monica Media does not mean it hasn´t happened. It just means the story does not fit with the media´s agenda. I don´t necessarily disagree with the author´s conclusion, but his reasoning is abysmal.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: pinkpanther, 12/17/2012 2:50:24 PM     (No. 9071216)

...And to continue #1´s thread, birth control was supposed to free women, make marriages stronger and solve all the world´s problems. Instead we got skyrocketing divorces, extra-marital affairs, cheapening of sex, women viewed as objects, teen pregnancy, STD´s through the roof, single mothers and 55 million dead babies. Some military people I´ve talked to says it IS a problem but they take care of things internally and the brass refuses to acknowledge nor make it publicly known the negative affects.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: spincut, 12/17/2012 2:55:10 PM     (No. 9071226)

If an organization has 200 years of tradition, it takes longer than 14 months to destroy it.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 12/17/2012 2:56:06 PM     (No. 9071231)

I personally know of over 10 young men that joined different brances of the military with full intention of making it their careers.

They all decided not to re-up once the military was forced to take in homosexuals.

These were all fine young men, dedicated to serving their country. They are exactly the type of men you want on the front lines protecting our nation when called to do so.

But they signed up to serve, not to be part of a destructive and immoral social experiment. So they have moved on to other careers.

10 men don´t make or break anything. But they will readily tell you that they had plenty of buddies in the service that planned to get out as soon as they could. And they were all very dedicated and would loved to have made careers of it.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: maggie2u, 12/17/2012 3:10:12 PM     (No. 9071269)

And continuing poster number three´s thread, sex education in schools was supposed to do exactly the same as birth control.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: sunsong, 12/17/2012 3:14:33 PM     (No. 9071276)

[[[The hand-wringing about dire consequences is an attempt to dress up base motives in more respectable garb.]]]

True. It is animus and it won´t hold up.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: NYbob, 12/17/2012 3:18:20 PM     (No. 9071280)

You can NOT redefine natural, biological, law in any real sense. You can pretend that sham ´marriages´ are the same thing, but you know it isn´t. You know someone is pretending to be something they aren´t which is a man wife or a wife man. I don´t care what the custom is with some tiny group pretending to be magical creatures or the opposite of what they are biologically, but I am concerned about the children who might be raised by them. Those kids are missing some important clues about humanity. Knee jerking over to dysfunctional ´straight´ marriages or unmarried households is NOT a defense. Slob parents don´t justify depriving boys and girls of a set of parents that demonstrate the strengths and weaknesses of men and women, but also hopefully show the best of humanity which is a devoted couple in love with each other and the children they created. Anything else has issues. Some more than others, but pretending it is all harmless is bilge.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: postaway, 12/17/2012 3:19:53 PM     (No. 9071283)

I recently went to a class meeting for my husband´s class at Annapolis and we were told by the class president, who now lives in Annapolis, that the day DADT was repealed was a non-event at the academy. It was just another day. A retired Vice Admiral friend of ours said that, in his experience, young people these days just don´t care. I have a family member in the service and when he was in high school one of his best friends came out to him and several of their friends. Everyone remained the best of friends, just as before, and this was at a boarding school. I was a huge skeptic of the repeal but even I have to admit that it doesn´t seem to be hurting anything. I was afraid that the flamers would move in and try to destroy the military from within but it isn´t happening. I hope it never does.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: curious1, 12/17/2012 3:20:36 PM     (No. 9071285)

Not to mention if a battlefield transfusion is indicated - who wants a gift that keeps on giving?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: semperparatus, 12/17/2012 3:25:46 PM     (No. 9071290)



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Reply 12 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 12/17/2012 3:30:09 PM     (No. 9071294)

And continuing from what #6 said, the lottery was going to fully-fund education.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Jethro bo, 12/17/2012 3:40:12 PM     (No. 9071316)

Marriage isn´t about love. It is about procreation. It is a unit by which the female can enhance the opportunities for her offspring to survive and thrive. By definition, homosexual copulation, in any form, has 0% chance of enhance the opportunities of the offspring. That’s because there isn’t any offspring. For centuries couples lived together as a family unit without the license from the state. Many had no sanction from the church. Marriage is about procreation and anything that diminishes that purpose harms marriage. Then again, gun free school zones have not been shown beyond a shadow of a doubt to harm anyone. Forcing people to buy corn based fuel hasn´t been shown to harm anyone. And forcing us to buy unwanted insurance hasn´t been shown to harm anyone. So no harm, no foul, eh? Or, to put it in the really real world perspective, everything our goobernment does is intended to harm us. Including this!

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Reply 14 - Posted by: semperparatus, 12/17/2012 3:44:00 PM     (No. 9071321)

The liberal ideology, political correctness that has firmly established itself in the service has provided a cozy jumping point for this new social experiment.

Those of us who have served, and are still serving, for more than 33 years, understand what has taken place since the late 60s.

This article is bunk. Pure and simple.

Semper Paratus

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Reply 15 - Posted by: miceal, 12/17/2012 3:54:01 PM     (No. 9071338)

Better question: "Has it helped?" I didn´t think so. Define deviancy downward and don´t be surprised by the results.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: fritzilou, 12/17/2012 3:58:51 PM     (No. 9071343)

One never knows the effect of new policies on society until many years later. We now see the results of pornograpy, drugs, alcohol, television, film, free love, easy divorce and a variety of other new fangled inventions of modernity. Gay marriage is new; we will eventually see the effects of this too.

Lets fix what has become broken.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: peeps, 12/17/2012 4:04:51 PM     (No. 9071352)

Wrong.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: DocH, 12/17/2012 4:46:27 PM     (No. 9071417)

The best comment here is No. 16. Remember the story about the guy who jumped off the Empire State Building. As he passed the 50th floor, someone yelled, ´´How are you doing?´´ He replied, ´´Fine so far.´´

If the excusers of perversion are right, there will be no harm from this. If the Bible is right, however, one kind of wrongness influences people to adopt many other kinds, too (Romans 1). So we have decided to conduct an experiment on the question, and we have put up the survival of our nation as the stakes. Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen, place your bets.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: artman1746, 12/17/2012 5:40:06 PM     (No. 9071502)

Well. All that is good to know. So now it´s time to sanction polygamy in the military. And let´s encourage the military dog handlers to have more if an intimate relationship with their dogs. Couldn´t hurt, right? It´s just those old Victorian biases that prevent us from having more meaningful relationships . And let´s encourage ploygamy within the military because then one serving overseas wouldn´t leave their mate home alone. There would be another still there. Yea, that sounds good. Or, we could encourage men to marry their daughters or sons. Sure, that´s it! Who are we to question what kind of relationships others want to have!

And if all this sounds rediculus, why? On what principle does one claim it´s rediculus? On what foundation do you plant the flag of "normality"? Or are you the hypocrite that agrees there sould be limits on where the line is drawn, it´s just that YOU want to be the one who draws the line?

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Hoosier, 12/17/2012 5:53:16 PM     (No. 9071513)

"Drop your bunkmates´ ****s and grab your own socks!"

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Reply 21 - Posted by: LouD, 12/17/2012 6:03:19 PM     (No. 9071523)

What this free-wheeling society has come to Yesterday, as I waited in my car for my wife to finish shopping, out of the store came a man, not too old, and two young girls. The girls had such sad faces for this season. They couldn´t have been over 12, if that. As they passed in front of my car it was obvious that one was pregnant! My God! At such a young age! And such a shame. This society has fallen to new lows.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: dr fate, 12/17/2012 7:46:59 PM     (No. 9071662)

They are not "gay", they are sodomites. Until we get the language right, there is little to discuss.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: lavalette, 12/17/2012 8:10:38 PM     (No. 9071695)

And I smoked a cigarette yesterday, and don´t have lung cancer today. So much for the scare mongering about smoking causing cancer!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: zoidberg, 12/17/2012 11:06:15 PM     (No. 9071873)

The IDF has always had homosexuals in its ranks. Their policy is don´t ask, couldn´t care.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/18/2012 2:43:11 AM     (No. 9072003)

Never happened or never reported. I choose never reported.

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