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Conn. school shooting prompts gun-
control sermons at National Cathedral

Washington Post, by Nikita Stewart

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 12/15/2012 5:42:38 PM

The Rev. Gary Hall, dean of Washington National Cathedral, said he plans to use his sermons Sunday to address gun control, which the Episcopal Church strongly supports. National Cathedral officials announced that Hall will preach on the topic at the 8:45 a.m. and 11:45 a.m. services in response to the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre , the second-deadliest shooting event in U.S. history. (Snip) The planned sermons follow an outpouring of support for gun control or for the victims at local events and vigils in the in the Washington area. Advocacy groups - the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence

I thought liberals believed in strict separation of church/state issues above anything else?


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/15/2012 5:53:14 PM     (No. 9068023)

With all the gun control in the world, criminals will still figure out how to get guns. Why are gun control advocates so thick skulled......

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/15/2012 5:57:42 PM     (No. 9068032)

Abortions murder >2,000 babies a day in the USA. Will the Episcopalian church rail against abortions?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Northcross, 12/15/2012 6:01:49 PM     (No. 9068040)

Hey Gary, how about sticking with a subject that you are supposed to know something about, like the moral vacuum that leads the unstable into acts of violence.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ScrIbelus, 12/15/2012 6:03:31 PM     (No. 9068043)

I´ll see your Lanza lunatic and raise you with the Breivik Norway lunatic. Gun "control" cannot prevent calculating madness. So-called gun-free zones, containing defenseless innocents, draw such evil beings like pollen and nectar draw bees. Arm those teachers willing and able to carry. Arm those parishioners able to protect the congregations. Publicize such capabilities.
The Rev. Gary Hall is a tool of enshrined evil!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: yuban, 12/15/2012 6:03:39 PM     (No. 9068044)

Just more Liberal junk. Thinking folk will disregard it as the usual feel good rhetoric.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Johnny Angle, 12/15/2012 6:09:04 PM     (No. 9068056)

Yank their tax exemption.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: alaskaal, 12/15/2012 6:27:17 PM     (No. 9068070)

Since this church no longer believes in sin, or inchoate evil, they shall blame an inanimate object. That will solve exactly nothing, but it might feel pretty good.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: mrduc, 12/15/2012 6:27:21 PM     (No. 9068071)

If they were truly serious about gun control, they would go into the cities and get the ILLEGAL guns away from the gangs. Night after night, there are shootings in the inner cities, but nothing is done. The numbers of police officers are cut due to lack of funds because exorbitant union pensions and goobermint freeloaders come first. Existing laws are not enforced. So, just how serious are we about gun control. Oh, I see. The guns of the law-abiding citizens must be controlled, but not the criminals with the illegal guns.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: poliskeptic, 12/15/2012 6:30:49 PM     (No. 9068073)

I knew there was a reason I am not an Episcopalian(although the Metodists are almost as looney on this)

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Reply 10 - Posted by: avikingman, 12/15/2012 6:35:28 PM     (No. 9068077)

Libs have infiltrated the churches too.
Drive ya nuts.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: flatwater, 12/15/2012 6:49:52 PM     (No. 9068099)

The President who deliberately forced THOUSANDS of firearms into the hands of Mexico´s most murderous drug gangs....

....is going to lecture us all on "gun control."

Barack Obama and Eric Holder are accessories to murder in the deaths of over 300 Mexican citizens and two American law enforcement officers. They have absolutely NO moral high ground and NO credibility.

Go to hell, Barky.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 12/15/2012 7:04:06 PM     (No. 9068113)

This is the most depressing, and possibly the most damning manifestation of our current cultural pathology to emerge from the tragedy thus far. It is a very bad sign.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 12/15/2012 7:07:39 PM     (No. 9068118)

I thought the Obama Administration was already controlling guns. Didn´t they send them to Mexico? and to many of the Middle Eastern countries where rebellion after rebellion has been occurring using weapons furnished by the U>S> and other major players attempting to overthrow the Governments in place so that truly Democratic elections could ensue. Why have a Country whose Government is allied with the U.S. continue
to exist when you can replace it with an
Islamic Government which is an enemy of the U>S>.. That´s the Obama mantra. Note to the President -Sharia law is NOT democratic. But you knew that already. and terrorists do NOT discriminate when they create havoc. Everyone
who does not believe as they do is an enemy.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: AnnG, 12/15/2012 7:21:48 PM     (No. 9068135)

You can take away every gun, but you cannot take away the evil in this world.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: susieq1, 12/15/2012 7:36:37 PM     (No. 9068156)

Guns do not kill ; cars do not create accidents; forks do not make people overweight people do. There is a right and wrong does not matter all the social babbling you are still responsible for your deeds.
Where life is not held to be of worth; ie abortion; what does that teach society? Where God is shut down and not allowed in the public square that states there is nothing here or after so just do whatever you please. This is the sad state of our country today.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Daisymay, 12/15/2012 7:41:04 PM     (No. 9068160)

Baloney! If the Principal, or any of the Teachers in that school had kept a gun in their desk drawer this guy would have been stopped before he could kill all of those children. Also, WHY were the school doors unlocked? In this day when there are Wackos like this guy out there ALL schools should be in lockdown during school hours. ALL students should go through security before entering the building. It´s come to that, but it works. There is no reason to blame GUNS. That is stupidity!

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Butch, 12/15/2012 8:23:53 PM     (No. 9068214)

Since the schools and many churches no longer teach right from wrong, good vs. evil, students aren´t being taught what they need to know to become solid citizens.

No Pledge of Allegiance, of course; why, it refers to God, and we can´t have that. Video games that depict indescribable violence are never the problem either, natch. Hollywood films that depict extreme and unpunished violence are rarely blamed. Nor is blame laid at our inadequate mental health system, along with legal liability that makes people think twice before reporting clearly disturbed people to mental health professionals for assessment.

The problem always has to be the guns, and never the underlying societal decay.

I am so grateful that the notions of right and wrong were drummed into my head at school. The late Fifties and early Sixties weren´t so bad after all...

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Reply 18 - Posted by: veritas, 12/15/2012 8:25:35 PM     (No. 9068216)

It´s a fool´s errand to try to debate such matters logically with Leftists. Logic is a tool they do not use, comprehend, or respect.

Pastor Gary is a moron in regards to both the law and human nature. That´s bad news for someone who is in his position.

He could save his congregants a lot of time if he skipped the polemic and simply stood up, said "I´m a moron," and sat back down.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/15/2012 8:46:59 PM     (No. 9068244)

They used to detain crazy people so that they would not have the chance to indiscriminately murder innocent people. Now crazy people are deemed to have the right to wander around unsupervised, thus giving them the chance to indiscriminately murder innocent people before they can be detained, if they don´t take the easy way out and kill themselves as well.

First priority should be to change the AFT background protocols to ensure that crazy people cannot walk into gun stores and purchase firearms by lying on the ATF form that everyone must fill out that is the basis used to complete the background checks.

They must also stop using medical privacy laws to hide the fact that a person is mentally ill or that a person has been committed to a mental treatment facility from law enforcement.

The above will be hard to change, because mentally ill persons can vote in this country, and you can bet that most of them vote for liberal Democrats.

Therefore most liberal Democrats will never publicly admit that a perpetrator with a mental illness is just about always the cause of the about 20 mass shootings that occur in the USA each year.

A firearm does not have a vote, so it is safe in the short-term for liberal Democrats to demagogue the issue and fraudulently blame firearms. No doubt the liberal Democrats will now overreach in their efforts to enact new firearms control laws.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Skyliner, 12/15/2012 9:46:02 PM     (No. 9068303)

Why is that cesspool called the "National Cathedral"?

Got any altar boys?

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Reply 21 - Posted by: sgtfox of the jarhead clan, 12/15/2012 9:48:59 PM     (No. 9068309)

The title of Reverand is way over used. Many are just democrat party propagandists pushing the party agenda. The Reverands Jesse Jackson , Al Sharpton and Jeremiah Wright all use that title to great personal advantage and play the part well, complete with sweaty foreheads and flying spit. I suspect the DNC writes their sermons.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: wsdiego, 12/15/2012 9:49:26 PM     (No. 9068311)

After they take our guns, next step is re-education camps!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: reilly, 12/15/2012 10:21:00 PM     (No. 9068345)

Disarm everyone and live in gun-free zones. You´ll feel better until some nut shows up with a Glock. Then you´re dead.
No wonder the Episcopal Church is dying.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 12/15/2012 11:16:23 PM     (No. 9068385)

#23, but they´ve been running the "re-education camps"... they´re called PUBLIC SCHOOLS (oh, and universities, etc etc).

They are assisted by all forms of media, most glitteringly by entertainment. News/information has almost completely descended into the entertainment septic system.

Now, it is becoming difficult to distinguish between the lunatic and what Rush euphemistically calls "low information voters," or what Lenin is said to have called "useful idiots."

In order to dominate the population, you must have a compliant bunch. The people must be satiated in one way or another; entertained; easily aroused when necessary to the emotion required.

Anger/hatred, fear/anxiety: These the Dem/Lefties are top-notch at stirring up. Do they EVER ask The People to THINK? To REASON? To CALM DOWN?

Then... The Tears. Oh oooo how easily the tears flow. It just may be that TOTUS is fitted with squirters to hit the potus´s eyes at the opportune moments.

how cynical i am

suddenly i recall Nietzsche´s admonition (?) "When you look into the abyss, it looks back into you."

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Reply 25 - Posted by: chumley, 12/15/2012 11:46:39 PM     (No. 9068433)

Churches are run by men, not gods. The Bible is interpreted by men, not gods. Even denominations that use the very same version of the very same Bible cannot agree on what it means.
That´s why I do not attend church, and find the spiritual answers I need in the people and the world around me. My answers are probably righter than theirs.

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