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Obama Bypasses Congress to Mandate
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Cybercast News Service, by Pete Winn

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Posted By:LittleHoodedMonk, 12/15/2012 3:15:33 PM

Bypassing Congress, the Obama administration has issued a proposed administrative rule, which if adopted, would mandate the installation of "black boxes" in all automobiles and light trucks beginning in 2014. (Snip) The proposed standard would require automakers to install event data recorders (EDRs) – so-called “black box devices” -- to collect specific safety related data in all light passenger vehicles beginning Sept. 1, 2014. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood said approximately 96 percent of model year 2013 passenger cars and light-duty vehicles are already equipped with

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Like your "smartphone," these black boxes will really be tracking your movements and whereabouts. Crash data will be at the low end of list of its real purpose.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: NYbob, 12/15/2012 3:25:25 PM     (No. 9067842)

It´s actually a good thing that it is done this way. Too many people don´t understand what has already been done to, I mean, for them.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Emmajustin, 12/15/2012 3:31:19 PM     (No. 9067847)

1. zippy cannot be allowed to bypass Congress;
2. Anyone who thinks this is for safety is naive. This is a stalinistic tactic to track us (think of the mandate to computerize our medical records).
3. zippy must be stopped.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: volksford, 12/15/2012 3:32:31 PM     (No. 9067851)

Next up...carbon taxes on mileage driven ,the leftys have many ways to incrementally steal your freedoms.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: janylou, 12/15/2012 3:35:36 PM     (No. 9067854)

Somebody needs to put the brakes on!

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Keekng, 12/15/2012 3:36:06 PM     (No. 9067855)

Black Boxes will make it so much easier for zero´s Gestapo to track malcontents.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: dman, 12/15/2012 3:39:42 PM     (No. 9067861)

Get real:

Personal computers can be hacked.

"Secure" infrastructure computers can be hacked.

Government computers can be hacked.

These black boxes can and will be hacked and/or disabled.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/15/2012 3:40:00 PM     (No. 9067862)

There HAVE been data gathering boxes in cars for years. That is why insurance companies can tell what speed you were travleing, and if brakes were applied before a collision. Of course, I am sure these new boxes will have a lot for info gathered.
AND the cost is added to the purchase price of the cars.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: TigerLilly, 12/15/2012 3:48:30 PM     (No. 9067871)

Whatever you say mein Fuehrer.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: novakid, 12/15/2012 3:48:45 PM     (No. 9067873)

Hitler didn´t need the Reichstag.

Enjoy what freedoms we have left, while you can....

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Reply 10 - Posted by: voxpopuli, 12/15/2012 3:52:32 PM     (No. 9067875)

great news..
this will help find your car when it stops in the middle of nowhere from using the E85 gas..
a government tow truck will then be able to be dispatched to give you a ticket and impound your car..

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 12/15/2012 3:54:37 PM     (No. 9067876)

Evidently we have no need for a Congress. Or elections, courts, laws, the Constitution, the several states, or any of that other stuff. Just the Emperor and the Politburo, issuing diktats and ukases to we the proles. Much more efficient. How soon The Terror?


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Reply 12 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 12/15/2012 3:55:48 PM     (No. 9067879)

Love me some old pick-up trucks.



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Reply 13 - Posted by: Freeloader, 12/15/2012 3:57:20 PM     (No. 9067880)

Obama bypasses Congress again? Think about it. Just two-hundred-thirty-six years from The Declaration of Independence back to "The Divine Right of Kings."

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Reply 14 - Posted by: jalo1951, 12/15/2012 4:03:07 PM     (No. 9067885)

Will someone please explain to me how this man can bypass Congress with impunity and no one, NO ONE says much of anything?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: arcady, 12/15/2012 4:31:02 PM     (No. 9067914)

and the congressional response is?
...[chirp] [chirp] [chirp]
Why bother voting for and electing any republicans if they don´t even use the brains God gave them? They seriously better have an opposing position...

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Reply 16 - Posted by: aasilver, 12/15/2012 4:50:02 PM     (No. 9067937)

The King has spoken, Long Live the King - - just kidding.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: 4Justice, 12/15/2012 5:14:08 PM     (No. 9067983)

Totalitarian tyrant! This dictator thinks he can do whatever he wants.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: clayusmcret, 12/15/2012 5:45:58 PM     (No. 9068012)

The budget negations can get a kick start if Congress simply shutters its doors and goes home. It´s blatantly obvious that with obama bypassing congress so frequently, and with congress´s response being a resounding hush, the U.S. Congress no longer serves a purpose. They should close up, go home and save us the money wasted on an occupied but empty building.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: KanCreeper, 12/15/2012 6:39:26 PM     (No. 9068083)

Looks like George Orwell was a prophet...1984 is riding in on a 747 named Air Force One.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 12/15/2012 6:54:47 PM     (No. 9068103)

No new cars for us.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly, 12/15/2012 7:07:12 PM     (No. 9068117)

The beginning of taxing you for how many miles you drive.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: uno, 12/15/2012 7:24:10 PM     (No. 9068138)

How long until they tag and chip our kids?
I´m pretty sure it will be this administration that tries...

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Reply 23 - Posted by: LanieLou, 12/15/2012 8:11:41 PM     (No. 9068191)

Somehow we need to find another way to stop him. The GOP leadership is stuffed with Progressives who don´t want to upset Obozo´s handlers...

Black boxes can also be used to apply all kinds of usage taxes..

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Muguy, 12/15/2012 8:21:16 PM     (No. 9068208)

The Dictator is watching you...

and its not Sasha Baren Cohen

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Bobn.T, 12/15/2012 8:21:19 PM     (No. 9068209)

Czar, Caesar, Lord, King, Pharaoh, Saviour, Exalted One, Master, Monarch - just to name a few.

How about ------ (use your imagination)

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Reply 26 - Posted by: grounded, 12/15/2012 8:25:53 PM     (No. 9068218)

All these extralegal "mandates" and executive orders can be challenged in federal court. EOs are only supposed to apply to federal agencies and federal employees. Unless Congress ceded to the DOT the power to establish these types of mandates, they are illegal. The reason that the Transportation Secretary can promulgate CAFE standards is because Congress gave DOT that authority back in the 70s.

From Wikipedia: "The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) regulates CAFE standards and the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) measures vehicle fuel efficiency. U.S. Congress specifies that CAFE standards must be set at the "maximum feasible level" given consideration for:
1) technological feasibility;
2) economic practicality;
3) effect of other standards on fuel economy;
4) need of the nation to conserve energy."

NHTSA is part of DOT. As with so much of what comes out of Washington, DC, unelected bureaucrats are empowered to create regulations that have the force of law (see Obamacare). But Congress does have to specifically give up that power.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: hamrman, 12/15/2012 8:30:39 PM     (No. 9068224)

King Obama!

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Reply 28 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 12/15/2012 8:39:38 PM     (No. 9068236)

Where is Congress?

FTA: "House Republicans, citing privacy concerns, had succeeded in removing a Senate provision requiring EDRs from the final transportation bill earlier this year."

And this joker, the Squatter in OUR HOUSE is deliberately slapping the Congress in the face and they just sit with their three monkey stance and grin!

If this doesn´t bring the entire House and Senate with fists raised out of their seats, then we are screwed!

Still waiting.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: curious1, 12/15/2012 8:43:09 PM     (No. 9068241)

#21, they already tax you for the number of miles you drive via the gasoline tax. Wasn´t that another of Carter´s wonderful gifts to us?

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Reply 30 - Posted by: jimkata, 12/15/2012 9:51:59 PM     (No. 9068314)

At what point is this not dictatorship?
The other article was about Holder approving a super secret government (non congress passed) law monitoring of citizens.

This is dictatorship by definition.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Heraclitus, 12/15/2012 11:40:10 PM     (No. 9068420)

As i have often said, beware the smile of the tyrant: it conceals a bloody maw.

No tyrant is ever benign. Every tyrant is a triple-A, control-freak personality, sanctimonious, self-righteous, pompous and arrogant, and thrilling with the exercise of power.

My oldish car is looking more beautiful to me by the day.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/15/2012 11:58:47 PM     (No. 9068439)

It´s good to be the king.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: BreakRight, 12/16/2012 4:07:41 AM     (No. 9068564)

#29, the reason they want to tax mileage is that they are simultaneously trying to get us all to drive electric or hybrid vehicles, thus reducing their "take" from gasoline use (as does the increased CAFE standards on vehicle fuel economy mandated for the next 20 years)... they see a huge source of tax revenue being lost over time.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/16/2012 4:42:01 AM     (No. 9068584)

666.

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