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Time to talk about gun control
Washington Post, by Editorial

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 12/14/2012 11:40:56 PM

THE HORROR IS BEYOND WORDS: a peaceful school in a peaceful town turned upside down by a man with guns, children and teachers killed, families torn asunder, lives altered unimaginably and forever. And then, almost as horrible, the familiarity of the event. We have been here before, we know the drill. The details of the shooting will be particular — the precise number of casualties, the killer’s exact route, how he finally was stopped or stopped himself — we know the drill. Over the coming days we will hear of grief counselors and evacuation plans.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: stonepony, 12/14/2012 11:42:49 PM     (No. 9066565)

why not start this discussion about mental health.......too thought so....

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/14/2012 11:43:44 PM     (No. 9066566)

What about time to start locking up mentally unstable people?

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Reply 3 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 12/14/2012 11:49:26 PM     (No. 9066571)

It´s time to talk about a lot of things.

Like the falacy of ´´gun free zones´´ -- the primary target area of 99% of all mass killings.

Law abiding citizens with guns are not a problem. The bad guys with guns are the problem. So who do the lie-berals want to disarm again???



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Reply 4 - Posted by: Bearman43, 12/14/2012 11:50:46 PM     (No. 9066572)


Would somebody explain how banning guns would stop this type of massacre? It is estimated that there are more than 100 million guns in private hands in the United States. How are you going to collect them all? I know I won´t surrender mine. Most of the people I know won´t surrender theirs. It´s not going to happen. The only thing gun control does is make it easy for criminals.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: noproblems, 12/14/2012 11:51:58 PM     (No. 9066575)

it take a special kind of stupid to focus on the weapon this monster chose to use instead of focusing on how this monster got created. There is a reason the old media is dying.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: NYbob, 12/14/2012 11:54:07 PM     (No. 9066579)

Why does the liberal media hate women with such passion? They seize every chance to disarm them and make the streets safer for every rapist, psycho stalker, and abusive men. They really ought to apologize to their mothers, wives and daughters before more of them are harmed by this silly authoritarian fantasy.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Northcross, 12/14/2012 11:54:43 PM     (No. 9066582)

Perhaps we can talk about how liberals are destroying all of the moral checks and balances in society... pushing drugs, sex, and violence while ridiculing those who believe in a God ordained moral order.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Jubilationtcornpone, 12/14/2012 11:55:53 PM     (No. 9066583)

OK liberals. I´ll be glad to consider gun control when you agree to return God to the classroom.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: smcchk, 12/14/2012 11:57:51 PM     (No. 9066586)

The more that liberals talk about gun control, the more gun sales go up. Let´s talk about criminal and unstable behavior control first.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: gop juggernaut redux, 12/15/2012 12:04:01 AM     (No. 9066590)

It´s time for anti-gun fools to give it up.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: HisHandmaiden, 12/15/2012 12:05:17 AM     (No. 9066591)

... and Hollywood and video games´ control ...

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Barkingkangaroo, 12/15/2012 12:09:12 AM     (No. 9066598)

This is crazy. Gun violence is out of control. We need to pass laws that prohibit killing other people with guns. It should be against the law to posses a gun on school property. By passing more laws, all our problems will be solved!

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Reply 13 - Posted by: jntsrgn, 12/15/2012 12:13:14 AM     (No. 9066602)

More than 20 people were stabbed today at a school by a rampaging man in China.
Time to talk sharp object control.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: billp, 12/15/2012 12:19:11 AM     (No. 9066607)

"Time to talk about gun control"

When did they ever quit?

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Reply 15 - Posted by: bluefindad, 12/15/2012 12:19:28 AM     (No. 9066609)

Maybe we should ban private ownership of guns - you know - like Mexico.

That´ll stop evil people from gunning down innocents - you bet!

My heart is sick because of this act by a savage whose purpose is beyond my ability to comprehend. The cause of this is evil, pure and simple.

We must come to grips with the understanding that a darkness is descending upon us. Think of the boys who shot the woman over a pack of cigarettes a couple of days ago and bragged about it on Facebook. Think of the increasing frequency of these horrific events, and of the nightly murders in urban cities. Think of the rhetoric being used to divide people into bickering groups by our ´leaders´, and of the open attacks by politicians and media on both Christianity and the foundations of social order. The world is becoming exactly what we are creating.

Prayer is in order, and plenty of it.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: erasmusrotten, 12/15/2012 12:23:53 AM     (No. 9066612)

If we are to ban guns that "kill people" we should also ban cars,drugs,illegal aliens,junk food,etc,etc....you get my grip?

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Reply 17 - Posted by: thelmalou, 12/15/2012 12:25:43 AM     (No. 9066614)

Well, let´s talk about that. First, you give us a report of how it´s going in NYC and Chicago and places where gun ownership is already restricted/banned. CT also has fairly strict gun laws, if I´ve read correctly today, and today still happened. Your turn, WaPo.


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Reply 18 - Posted by: chumley, 12/15/2012 12:26:56 AM     (No. 9066615)

Why is it that whenever a liberal wants to have a "dialogue" or a ´conversation" or "talk about", I am about to lose another right. Are these the new buzz words for tyranny?

My deepest sympathies to the victims of this psycho. I am ashamed that politicians stand on their bodies to promote their agendas.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: nashville, 12/15/2012 12:35:26 AM     (No. 9066620)

They were stolen guns, seems the Post left that fact out. I saw somewhere that all the guns used belonged to the Mom.


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Reply 20 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/15/2012 12:38:30 AM     (No. 9066623)

Time to talk about the "root causes". Talking about guns is just a way to deflect that. When you indoctrinate generations of people in nihilistic concepts and insist there is no good or evil ... you´re going to get a lot of people choosing evil.

Not a single thing the control junkies are proposing would have stopped this crime. The state where it happens has strict gun control laws. They didn´t stop it.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: PChristopher, 12/15/2012 1:14:14 AM     (No. 9066648)

Abortion kills more children than guns. THAT is the horror.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: flatwater, 12/15/2012 2:29:00 AM     (No. 9066694)

Oh, is it time to start asking questions about "Fast & Furious", the gun-running operation Barack Obama and Eric Holder used to knowingly put weapons in the hands of Mexico´s most violent drug cartels?

Say, aren´t there over three-hundred Mexican Citizens DEAD because of "Fast & Furious"?

We have over 20,000 firearms laws on the books.

I´m pretty sure that murder is illegal.

I´m also pretty sure that 99.999% of American gun owners did NOT commit a crime today....

Go straight to hell, WhiteWash Post, and take your Communist Commander with you.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: bighambone, 12/15/2012 2:55:03 AM     (No. 9066704)

What they need to talk about is keeping mental cases from being able to obtain firearms. Right now it is hard many times for law enforcement to determine if a person is a certified nut case because of the medical privacy laws. In the Connecticut case it is very possible that the perpetrator´s mother was a straw purchaser of the firearms that the nut case killed 26 people with, as the firearms were registered in her name.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: ByteGuru, 12/15/2012 2:56:04 AM     (No. 9066705)

It is quite more than a trivial thought to wonder how the left (and maybe Duh Won himself) ´arranged´ this tragedy. And even if ´arranged´ is a bit over the top, remember Rahm Emanual´s "Never let a serious crisis go to waste." The howls for absolute gun control and abolishing the Second Amendment will escalate. Maybe not this event but another (soon, very soon) will result in the First Kenyan issuing an Executive Order that will eliminate yet another of our rights. I do not think this administration is beyond using this tragedy as yet another step towards the subjugation of our citizens.


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Reply 25 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/15/2012 3:09:11 AM     (No. 9066714)

States were squeezed by federal regulations and had to dump the mentally ill in the streets (regulations say the mentally ill have a right to be on their own).

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Sanspeur, 12/15/2012 4:08:40 AM     (No. 9066742)

If a few of the responsible adults in the school had their guns with them....if the bad guys knew they would not have a shooting gallery of unarmed innocents....there would be immediate severe consequence..

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Reply 27 - Posted by: SpencersMom, 12/15/2012 4:17:45 AM     (No. 9066751)

You can´t legislate against stupidity. The mom bought the guns. How about legislating against the increasingly violent and sadistic video games? Could it be that the guy was living out a fantasy created from playing these horrible games?

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Reply 28 - Posted by: LanieLou, 12/15/2012 4:18:19 AM     (No. 9066752)

This argument isn´t even logical anymore... There´s hard data in NYC & Chicago that gun restrictions have zero impact on crime.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: artman1746, 12/15/2012 4:40:43 AM     (No. 9066761)

Here we go with the idiocy of never-let-a-crisis-go-to-waste liberals.

They get "gun free zones "; we get mass murder in the gun free zone.

They want gun control; we get mass murder in gun control cities.

They want less guns; who do they call for 911 help during mass murder? People with guns, of course!

REALITY: conceal carry law = reduced gun fatalities

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Reply 30 - Posted by: mws50, 12/15/2012 4:43:23 AM     (No. 9066762)

Thanks, Washington Post, for providing more proof that journalism has devolved into the dumbest profession on this planet.

You fools do not have the very first clue on how to stop psychos from committing crimes, so you want to restrict normal people from their second amendment rights. How would you like us to eliminate your first amendment Press rights, due to your inability to perform your job as a member of the Press corp?

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Reply 31 - Posted by: Citizen Plain, 12/15/2012 5:02:42 AM     (No. 9066767)

Ban Hollywood gun violence movies, where kids get the idea to mass kill.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: ocjim, 12/15/2012 5:31:23 AM     (No. 9066771)

Psst WaPo... I heard tonight that Connecticut has about the highest rating of any state for gun control laws from the (Jim) Brady gun control organization. As clearly described to you by Charleton Heston some years ago, America will not be disarmed. Move on, as you Lefties are wont to advise.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: leopardtwo, 12/15/2012 5:32:47 AM     (No. 9066773)

The spoon didn´t make Rosie O´Donnell fat, WP.


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Reply 34 - Posted by: Country Boy, 12/15/2012 7:10:06 AM     (No. 9066835)

The biggest single driving force of this violence is pols like obama telling people 24X7 to be angry, that they are victims. Most of obama´s audience (the sane ones) take that to mean they deserve higher min wage, more food stamps, etc. The few loonies out there are encouraged to shoot people.

Since obama has been President there at least on a year of these shooting (movie theater shooting, muslim guy in the Army base, shooting of the Congresswoman in AZ, name a few).

On the other hand, Pres. Ronald Reagan NEVER told anyone to be angry. Don´t remember ever any shooting during his 8 years (except the guy who tried to kill Reagan)

Face it folks, DEMS are a big part of his mass violence/shooting problem.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: GringoinQuito, 12/15/2012 7:15:33 AM     (No. 9066839)

BAN QUENTIN TARANTINO FROM MAKING MOVIES!

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Reply 36 - Posted by: Coy860, 12/15/2012 7:19:48 AM     (No. 9066843)

Actually, there is NOTHING to talk about.
The Constitution is NOT up for negotiation.
Now, let´s talk about evil and how to combat it.

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Reply 37 - Posted by: strike3, 12/15/2012 7:25:58 AM     (No. 9066848)

Remember back in the sixties when this gun control nonsense started with the philosophy of "Saturday night specials?" The left wanted to ban cheap handguns because that´s what the gangs normally carried. This whacko had the top of the line Glock and Sig Sauer and most gangs have more money than doctors and lawyers make. Instead of gun control, Libs need to talk about controlling stupidity but then they would disappear from the face of the earth.

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Reply 38 - Posted by: Mr. Hanky, 12/15/2012 7:29:45 AM     (No. 9066855)

We need to start talking about mental health. Another disturbed individual commits a monsterous crime.

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Reply 39 - Posted by: kenecarroll, 12/15/2012 7:37:03 AM     (No. 9066871)

I´ll bet O-Big-Ears and Holder are at the bottom of this one also...Operation Fast and Furious II.

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Reply 40 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici, 12/15/2012 7:39:00 AM     (No. 9066874)

Absolutely, so, how good is your gun control Mr Washington Post Editor? can you hit a nice tight grouping? Would you have been able to confidently shot this young man in this situation without risking hitting bystanders? If the answer to that last one is no, then perhaps you should spend some time at the gun range.

What, that´s not the type of gun control you were talking about? Too bad, it´s the type of gun control I am willing to talk about.

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Reply 41 - Posted by: FenwayFrank, 12/15/2012 7:57:52 AM     (No. 9066895)

I´ve banned the Washington Post from my house, but kept a firearm. I feel much safer knowing I can take an intruder at gunpoint, or shoot if necessary, than swat at him with the rolled-up editorial section.


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Reply 42 - Posted by: Ross MacLochness, 12/15/2012 8:06:56 AM     (No. 9066909)

Dear Washington Post:

I believe it´s time to talk about the people who died, and about how an sickness like this boy´s can rage for so long untreated.

I believe it´s time to talk about what we say to our children when they ask questions about this eruption of violence.

I believe it´s time to talk about arrangements for funerals and memorial services.

And for those of us who speak to God, I believe it´s time to ask restful souls for the dead, and quiet hearts for the grieving.

We´ll tell you when it´s time to talk about guns. Until then, people are mourning the deaths of their beloved. Behave as you would at a wake: Sit down and be quiet.

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Reply 43 - Posted by: lylacat, 12/15/2012 8:13:38 AM     (No. 9066917)

How about talking about putting God back into the schools. How about talking about actually "educating" our children in schools with good teachers, instead of union protected morons. How about teaching family values. You can take away the guns, and outlaws will still have them.

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Reply 44 - Posted by: JimS, 12/15/2012 8:16:16 AM     (No. 9066923)

Oddly enough, there was a news report just today from China.
Some maniac slashed 28 school children with a knife.
Really!
So, let´s ban knives too. We can learn to cut our food with sharpened rocks.

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Reply 45 - Posted by: franq, 12/15/2012 8:21:16 AM     (No. 9066933)

The title of this stupid editorial implies no gun control presently exists. Try walking into a gun shop with no I.D. and purchasing a rifle or, better yet, a pistol. Then refusing to fill out the necessary papers. I wonder how much these authors get paid to push propaganda?

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Reply 46 - Posted by: cThree, 12/15/2012 8:22:59 AM     (No. 9066935)

Nothing new here. They want "sensible gun control." So do I.

Nothing else they write makes much sense.

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Reply 47 - Posted by: novakid, 12/15/2012 8:45:53 AM     (No. 9066984)

Are such editorial writers born as idiots, or do they study to attain such staus?

When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Gee, seems so simple....

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Reply 48 - Posted by: Judith, 12/15/2012 8:54:06 AM     (No. 9067005)

When people were exploring and settling this country, they ALL had guns, usually out in the open where, when attacked, they were easily used.
Now we have schools (soft targets)being assaulted by mental cases or possibly with deadly intent. And the liberal idiots indignantly yell...don´t arm the adults in the school. Best way to defend against predators is to fight them, not to surrender to them.

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Reply 49 - Posted by: save America, 12/15/2012 8:55:43 AM     (No. 9067011)

How naive to think more laws would of stopped this monster.From the red haired nut to this guy and all in between,news flash ....these guys don´t care about any laws.A thousand laws would not have done anything.Oh wait,we already have thousands of laws.Laws do not stop any one from breaking them.They just don´t care.

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Reply 50 - Posted by: irishwolfielady, 12/15/2012 9:03:26 AM     (No. 9067030)

My idea of gun control is a nice tight shot group.

Lib progressives always want to take guns away from the people who didn´t do the shooting.

It could have been a totally different outcome if only one teacher had training and access to a handgun in the classroom. Schools are now "gun free" firezones. A very soft target that any nutjob can shot up.

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Reply 51 - Posted by: bigken2, 12/15/2012 9:06:25 AM     (No. 9067036)

bann the hollywood filth and vilance and village [ [ like mikie moore

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Reply 52 - Posted by: Lefticide, 12/15/2012 9:30:19 AM     (No. 9067100)

Read my lips, you liberal morons:
GUN FREE ZONE=KILLING FIELD

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Reply 53 - Posted by: right-turn, 12/15/2012 9:43:09 AM     (No. 9067140)

Too bad there was so much ´gun control´ at the school that not one person was armed and capable of stopping the killer. Just one armed and trained individual could have saved lives.

New York has the toughest gun laws in the nation. Anyone feel safe walking the streets there. What´s the murder rate?

Chicago has ´gun control´. What is the murder rate there?

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Reply 54 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby, 12/15/2012 9:54:37 AM     (No. 9067179)

We do need to talk about Gun Control and how it has failed us all.

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Reply 55 - Posted by: tlyons1, 12/15/2012 10:00:18 AM     (No. 9067193)

very enjoyable reads!! suggest liberal loons put large signs on their front lawns ......"This is a gun free home!!"

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Reply 56 - Posted by: Glocker, 12/15/2012 10:51:32 AM     (No. 9067307)

I may be wrong but doesn´t CT have pretty strong gun control laws now? Also wasn´t that school a gun free zone as stated in law. How did that work out?

Criminals are only afraid of "return fire" not laws.

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Reply 57 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 12/15/2012 12:43:16 PM     (No. 9067527)

Couldn´t they, at least, have waited until the dead are buried? Never let a tragedy go to waste.

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Like him or hate him, there is no disputing that Rush Limbaugh’s very special brand of mixing right-wing politics with his flare for entertainment has produced one of the most successful radio programs in the medium’s long history. Whatever the burning political question of the day, millions of Americans have relished the opportunity to tune into Rush’s program, knowing that he would quickly take that hot potato, throw a few gallons of verbal kerosene into the mix and elevate the matter into a five alarm fire with a just a few well-chosen words spoken in the style only Rush Limbaugh could

Kim Novak responds to post-
Oscars ridicule: ‘I was bullied.’

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Washington Post, by Soroya Nadia McDonald    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/18/2014 5:02:40 AM     Post Reply
After presenting at the Academy Awards this year, Kim Novak didn’t want to leave her house. The Hitchcock screen siren, 81, was too humiliated to venture from her home near the Rogue River in Oregon. She read the cruel posts and Internet snark about her appearance, and it was just too much. “It got to me like it gets kids and teenagers,” she told the Associated Press. The “Vertigo” actress, considered one of the great beauties in her day, posted a note on her Facebook wall Thursday, acknowledging that she’d gotten fat injections in her face and addressing her halted

Analysis: Obama Celebrates
Eight Million ´Enrollments,´
Again Declares Debate ´Over´

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Townhall, by Guy Benson    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/17/2014 8:56:28 PM     Post Reply
President Obama addressed the White House press corps today, announcing that with the final numbers in, Obamacare´s exchanges have attracted eight million sign-ups -- 35 percent of whom are "under the age of 35," he said. Several elements of his comments were misleading: (1) At first blush, the 35 percent stat is both significant and impressive. As recently as last month, the share of "young invincibles" signing up for plans was struggling in the 25 percent range, far short of the actuarial target of nearly 40 percent. A leap into the mid-30´s, while still shy of the goal, would constitute a major step, and would bode well for the risk pools'

Michelle Obama Riverdances
Through Dublin to the Tune
of $7,921,638

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Breitbart Big Peace, by Tom Fitton    Original Article
Posted By: JoniTx- 4/17/2014 6:45:16 AM     Post Reply
When it comes to tracking the cost of Obama family vacations, there are two primary challenges. First, the Obamas are prolific jet-setters, so there are many details to track. Second, the Obama administration, clearly embarrassed by these lavish and frequent family vacations, stonewalls the release of records at every turn. But we have been relentless in pursuit of this information. Our attorneys file the lawsuits and make our case, and our investigators pour through pages of records and crunch the numbers. And the information we’ve uncovered – information that would otherwise remain under lock and key – shows that the

Why is US Senator Harry
Reid so concerned with
a local Nevada rancher?

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Fox News, by Wayne Allyn Root    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:37:12 PM     Post Reply
I live in Las Vegas. I live and breath Nevada politics. Something is very wrong. Something smells rotten in the Nevada desert. And Senator Harry Reid’s fingerprints are all over it. I am of course referring to the Bundy Ranch siege. This was a dispute between a Nevada ranching family with rights to the land in question for 140 years and the BLM (Bureayu of Land Management). The government claims they haven’t paid grazing fees for 20 years. The result was a government assault on the ranch- including snipers with assault rifles, SUV’s, helicopters, airplanes and over 200 heavily armed troops. No

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
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The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Elizabeth Warren whines about coverage
of her fraudulent Indian claim

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Daily Caller, by Patrick Howley    Original Article
Posted By: KarenJ1- 4/16/2014 9:54:52 PM     Post Reply
Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren wrote in her forthcoming book that she was “hurt” and “angry” by 2012 reporting on her fraudulent claim to Native American heritage. “What really threw me, though, were the constant attacks from the other side,” Warren wrote in her book “A Fighting Chance.” “I would almost persuade myself that I was starting to get the hang of full-throttle campaigning and then — bam! Out of left field, the state Republican Party, or the Brown campaign, or some blogger, would launch a rocket at me,” Warren wrote, adding, ”I was stunned by the attacks.” This reporter (blogger?) reported extensively


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