A Message From Lucianne  







S-G1




























ST-GC



        
 

 
Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google


  Topic: Scientists May Have Finally Unlocked
Puzzle of Why People Are Gay
Change your user profile.
If you are having trouble posting, please take the time to register.
Your User Name :
Your Password
  I forgot my password
Your Reply  :
Preview Reply     Post Reply
Scientists May Have Finally Unlocked
Puzzle of Why People Are Gay

U.S. News & World Report, by Jason Koebler

Original Article

Posted By:Hermoine, 12/11/2012 3:25:51 PM

Scientists may have finally solved the puzzle of what makes a person gay, and how it is passed from parents to their children. A group of scientists suggested Tuesday that homosexuals get that trait from their opposite-sex parents: A lesbian will almost always get the trait from her father, while a gay man will get the trait from his mother. The hereditary link of homosexuality has long been established, but scientists knew it was not a strictly genetic link, because there are many pairs of identical twins who have differing sexualities.

Comments:
Debate away...

      


Post Reply  

Reply 1 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 12/11/2012 3:28:46 PM     (No. 9060094)

Find the cause of this abnormality, find the cure for it.

Works for me...

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 2 - Posted by: peebster, 12/11/2012 3:33:35 PM     (No. 9060101)

...who cares why people become gay? Now...if they could just figure out why people become liberals, then we could work on that...I´d say that most of the epi-marks are acquired on college campuses.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


   

 

R-G1
  
R-VAR_AD


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: mickturn, 12/11/2012 3:36:00 PM     (No. 9060103)

Let me guess, the female hormone like plastic formulation we all drink from...

No, Oh, right Mother Nature made a mistake and mixed up the ingredients...

No, well then maybe it is just an accident of Athiesm mixed with the Devil...

No, we can go on all day you know...

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 4 - Posted by: snowoutlaw, 12/11/2012 3:36:53 PM     (No. 9060104)

So they found the gay gene? If not then they aren´t real Scientists, just homosexuals trying to justify their behaviour.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 5 - Posted by: msjena, 12/11/2012 3:43:49 PM     (No. 9060109)

This article doesn´t exactly give the answer to why people are gay. For one thing, not all gay people are "feminized" or masculinized." I think it´s probably a combination of factors.
Whatever the cause, homosexual behavior is still a choice.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 6 - Posted by: Hermoine, 12/11/2012 3:44:23 PM     (No. 9060111)

I´ll just add that Paul, in the Bible, discusses homosexuality and never says it is unnatural...rather he says that God gave them up to their natural desires to lust for one another. The purpose of Christ is to turn us from the natural to the spiritual, to turn us from what we would like to do toward what He will have us do.

Just a thought.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 7 - Posted by: dipi, 12/11/2012 3:44:40 PM     (No. 9060113)

Re post #2. You hit the nail on the head. Colleges and university campuses are breeding grounds for liberalitis disease. 99.9% of academia are carriers.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: tehtriggerman, 12/11/2012 3:46:15 PM     (No. 9060114)

What about being a progressive Liberal?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 9 - Posted by: TexasHillCountry, 12/11/2012 3:47:00 PM     (No. 9060118)

FTA: "The hereditary link of homosexuality has long been established. . ."

Oh, really? I have been following this issue for a very, very long time and have seen much speculation and many assertions of "heredity", but never any true evidence/proof. In the real world mere assertion and conjecture do not constitute fact.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 10 - Posted by: mitzi, 12/11/2012 3:50:45 PM     (No. 9060126)

After studying the formula on the blackboard ... it´s seems quite clear .../s


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 11 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 12/11/2012 3:51:02 PM     (No. 9060128)

I give up. Is it because they like perverted sex...?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 12 - Posted by: Scribelus, 12/11/2012 3:51:51 PM     (No. 9060129)

Wow! That image of the maths on a chalkboard is real sciency. Just like the ga-ga article.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


   

 

B-G1


 
Reply 13 - Posted by: viking diver, 12/11/2012 3:58:00 PM     (No. 9060137)

Yeah because two males or two females reproduce so often/ S off
Its a choice, and that is the bottom line, anybody that thinks making love to a sewer pipe is correct ... just a perverted sickness trying to be made in to normal.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 14 - Posted by: jond, 12/11/2012 3:58:43 PM     (No. 9060140)

Leftism, or progressivism can be either inherited or acquired by contagion.

Its more like a religion than anything else.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 15 - Posted by: sunsong, 12/11/2012 4:00:48 PM     (No. 9060145)

People are born gay. It is NOT a choice.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 16 - Posted by: chumley, 12/11/2012 4:06:09 PM     (No. 9060155)

Its an interesting idea. Certainly worth a continued look. I have to wonder how many would opt to have this changed if it were possible to do so.

I bet there will be some great conversations around the table. "See, Ethel. I told you it was your fault."

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 17 - Posted by: Bevan, 12/11/2012 4:06:50 PM     (No. 9060156)

They´ve done studies with identical twins where one was gay, the other hetero. Both have the same DNA. Hmmmm.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


   

 

R_DBL_B
  


 
Reply 18 - Posted by: jimmiet, 12/11/2012 4:07:47 PM     (No. 9060159)

I was born a murderous, lust filled, thief and a liar, I have chosen however to not act upon my inherited traits.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 19 - Posted by: dr.lakerman, 12/11/2012 4:08:52 PM     (No. 9060162)

Let´s consider this possibility. Let´s say that there is a test early on in the pregnancy that identifies the sex of the foetus. And if I understand these scientists, it would be possible to put the appropriate hormone into the foetus to make sure they stay on track - straight if you will.
Would the homosexual rights groups go insane with such a treatment? Hasn´t California passed a law making it illegal for psychologists to treat homosexuals who want to go straight? And aren´t there deaf rights groups who are against those implants to restore hearing? Who are against lip reading instead of sigh language??
This could become interesting. Especially with the capacity now of surgeons who can perform heart surgery on baby still in the uterus. Hormone therapy would be simple compared to that...

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 20 - Posted by: EQKimball, 12/11/2012 4:08:57 PM     (No. 9060163)

Gay people often say that it is a choice they would not have made. If homosexuality therefore could be prevented, would they be in favor of it?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 21 - Posted by: ho72, 12/11/2012 4:10:54 PM     (No. 9060166)

People are born gay. It is NOT a choice.

I read an article by a genetic researcher back in the 80´s, who agrees with you. He said people are born gay just as people are born blind or without limbs. Homosexuality, at least for some, is a birth defect that (according to him) can be cured in the womb.

Gays were predictably outraged at his claims.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 22 - Posted by: Linus_Charlotte, 12/11/2012 4:14:23 PM     (No. 9060170)

EPIGENESIS = development of a plant or animal from an egg or spore through a series of processes in which unorganized cell masses differentiate into organs and organ systems; also : the THEORY that plant and animal development proceeds in this way

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


   

 



 
Reply 23 - Posted by: woofwoofwoof, 12/11/2012 4:15:58 PM     (No. 9060173)

There is no link to an actual paper, just a link to a PR release that links to another PR release about an article not linked, so whether this is pure speculation or there is even a tad of actual science behind it remains unknown.

The speculation regards extra-genetic trait passing, which is seeming increasingly likely but has not yet been established anywhere that I am aware of.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 24 - Posted by: Immanuel Goldstein, 12/11/2012 4:21:49 PM     (No. 9060183)

They discovered the gay gene. On an electron microscope, it shows up lavender.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 25 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 12/11/2012 4:23:12 PM     (No. 9060186)

Scientists May Have Finally Unlocked Puzzle of Why People Are Gay, they CHOOSE to be.


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 26 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/11/2012 4:26:05 PM     (No. 9060191)

It is the dream of homosexual activists that they can prove homosexuality is genetic not behavioral. This article at the root says it is not genetic (otherwise identical twins would either both be gay or both straight). So, by wish, it is quasi-genetic with hand-waving.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 27 - Posted by: Chuzzles, 12/11/2012 4:30:32 PM     (No. 9060197)

So, does this news mean new allies in the fight against abortion? Rush L. has always predicted that gays would start protesting abortion if a ´gay gene´ were ever found.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 28 - Posted by: mws50, 12/11/2012 4:31:05 PM     (No. 9060198)

If being homo is genetic and the genetic defect is found, most homos will immediately become pro-life.

If being homo is a learned trait, their quest for special privileges disintegrates.

We can cure homosexuality in our lifetime!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 29 - Posted by: Immanuel Goldstein, 12/11/2012 4:32:26 PM     (No. 9060202)

The varieties of human behavior are infinitly variable, and perhaps a small number of gays are born that way. But for the most part, I think there is a simpler explanation. It´s a vice. Certain young men are attracted to the lifestyle: the parties, the poppers, the gay bars, the parades and display, the bathhouse scene, the glory holes. If you are gay you have a built in advantage in certain professions, like fashion, theater, cinema, set design etc. When young boys in their early adolescence are so horny and don´t know what to do about it, they are prey to older guys who will give them sex... of a sort, and they get a taste for it. After that it is all about networking and group behavior reinforcement. Hence gay neighborhoods like the Castro in San Francisco, and West Hollywood, where peer pressure can be hard to resist. As for women, I don´t know what drives them into homosexuality. Probably just a series of bad relationships with men who turn out to be creeps.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 30 - Posted by: OdinsAcolyte, 12/11/2012 4:33:35 PM     (No. 9060205)

I have always said this. Don´t hate them. They are born that way and have no more choice in the matter than you or I. Everything is as it should be. We don´t have to like it but there are few who get everything their own way. Even scripture has been corrupted through time. Odds are if something in your religion seems kind of off or wrong it IS wrong. God has at least as much moral sense as a human being. An immortal doesn´t want the same things we do. God has no desire to torture any soul for eternity. We do not have enough power to do anything to merit a punishment on that kind of scale.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 31 - Posted by: Question_Assumptions, 12/11/2012 4:39:23 PM     (No. 9060209)

See Turner´s Syndrome, which shows the same thing. How masculine or feminine the behavior of a woman with Turner´s is depends on whether their single X comes from the mother or father.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 32 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 12/11/2012 4:42:53 PM     (No. 9060219)

God puts the facts out there. He then allows us to chose how we will spend eternity.

Most people have some desires that aren´t considered ´´normal´´ by regular society. What seperates us from the animals is that God granted us the knowledge to know right and wrong, and chose to give in to sick and perverse desires or not. And, for any number of reasons, most of us chose not to give into those sick and perverse desires.

We can´t control our feelings and desires, but we sure as Hell can control our actions!!!

Many homosexuals do chose to give in to their perverse desires. If they are going to end up suffering for all eternity, they made that choice today (as we all do -- though I chose to serve God again today).

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 33 - Posted by: pomom, 12/11/2012 4:44:05 PM     (No. 9060222)

Out of eight (8) girls in my family, I have ONE sister who passed on a ´´gay gene´´ to her only son. He´s the only gay person in our large family of 19 nieces and nephews. Interesting.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 34 - Posted by: Danceman, 12/11/2012 4:44:22 PM     (No. 9060223)

Look no further #2 & #7 and anyone still trying to figure out why people are born conservative or liberal, because in Act II of Gilbert & Sullivan´s politically incorrect operetta "Iolanthe," Pvt. Willis sings "That every little boy and every little girl that´s born into the world alive; is either a little Lib-eral or else a little Con-ser-va-tive. Fa, la la." And knowing this to be true, Queen Victoria laugher her head off and knighted them.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 35 - Posted by: Phil_hk, 12/11/2012 5:04:22 PM     (No. 9060252)

There is also a generational link be a parents religion (or lack there of) and their children.

There is a generational link between parents who smoke and children smoking

Showing a link is not the same as showing genetics

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 36 - Posted by: Newtsche, 12/11/2012 5:19:37 PM     (No. 9060277)

"People are born gay. It is NOT a choice."

It´s always been obvious some are. It´s just as obvious some make a choice. There are no absolutes on the matter. As a result, no political agendas have final say. One wonders, if the trait were identifiable and controllable in the womb, how many would opt for change.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 37 - Posted by: saraguay, 12/11/2012 5:20:04 PM     (No. 9060278)

in my long experience as a dept. of social services social worker, i found (anecdotal, admittedly) that many children who have been sexually abused often are gay later in life. i could go on and on about this but through my work experience i believe that some people are born gay, some people are made gay by sexual abuse and some choose the gay lifestyle. i have only found that women choose the gay life style and of the two sexes, women are the only ones who go back and forth. one year they are gay, ten years later, find a great guy, marry him and are straight. then, some, after marrying the great guy, go back to women but not always. humans are strange and we can´t possibly understand everything about all of us.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 38 - Posted by: bob913, 12/11/2012 5:24:58 PM     (No. 9060283)

Because they are__ Fabulous!

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 39 - Posted by: TigerLilly, 12/11/2012 5:25:58 PM     (No. 9060285)

Does this mean Obama´s mother was a lesbian?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 40 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 12/11/2012 6:42:48 PM     (No. 9060405)

Actually, #1, the quickest "cure" will be the one doctors use to "cure" any birth defect - abortion. That´s going to cause quite a dilemma for leftists and feminists.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 41 - Posted by: Fosterdad, 12/11/2012 6:43:37 PM     (No. 9060406)

If this is true, how will liberals feel when people abort their unborn gay children? Liberals will have to decide between their absolutist views on abortion and their loyalty to gay rights.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 42 - Posted by: globalwarmer, 12/11/2012 6:49:38 PM     (No. 9060415)

Funny how families with a long history of normalcy suddenly have gay children in the 21st century.....or were their ancestors just faking it?

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 43 - Posted by: kanphil, 12/11/2012 6:51:36 PM     (No. 9060418)

FTA, homosexuality is common in the animal world. I can attest to this. In my cattle herd, we occasionally get a gay bull-he just won´t cover his assigned cows and wants to get back into the bull pasture. Unlike the human herd, we don´t spend a lot of time trying to get him to change his mind. We just turn him into hamburger.
#37, I take your point about women switching back and forth. Ann Heche comes to mind.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 44 - Posted by: saguni, 12/11/2012 6:54:21 PM     (No. 9060424)

Two of my father´s brothers lived and farmed together all their lives. My mother´s brother went to university about 15 miles from their farm, and claimed my other two uncles were a "case study" in his psychology class. However, one of my slightly older female cousins warned me not to be alone with one of those uncles, because he had molested her.

That same maternal uncle claimed he had been "normal" until he was molested by a "church deacon" when he was 11, then he turned gay.

I say claimed because that uncle said a lot when the day was long.

He also said, "Some are born that way, some are made so by other men, and some choose the lifestyle."

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 45 - Posted by: horstschmidt, 12/11/2012 6:57:56 PM     (No. 9060429)

#29, did you decide to like girls when you were 13 to benefit your future career? Do you see how wacky that is? On what date did you decide to like girls? The idea that being gay -- at least for men -- is a choice is just stupid.

There are way too many people on this thread who are suspiciously interested in this subject. Spending a lot of time thinking about other people´s sex lives is creepy. What you do in your bedroom is your business as long as everyone agrees and nobody dies. Meanwhile, our country is going to h-e-double hockey sticks on a sled. Who cares about all this other stuff?


  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 46 - Posted by: coldoc, 12/11/2012 7:16:33 PM     (No. 9060452)

I always liked girls, but given the choice of mochelle and hillary I might have second thoughts.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 47 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 12/11/2012 8:37:20 PM     (No. 9060552)

Go back !

It´s a trick.

We all live in service to posterity.

The conscious part of our minds hasn´t got a clue in matters of ´preference´.

To answer Prof. Henry Higgins central question:"Why can´t a woman be more like a man?" It appears that the answer is:"Just get a man".

The whole business is much less important than it is made out to be.

Mostly...be nice , take care of each other.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 48 - Posted by: Hermoine, 12/11/2012 8:38:26 PM     (No. 9060553)

#45 -- We care about the subject b/c it is constantly thrust upon us (no pun intended). And, because we are told that because one group feels "naturally" a certain way about another group, they should be afforded certain rights and privileges. Redefining marriage in America is a pretty big deal, so yes, we care.

Just wondering out loud here, but what´s going to happen when we find a gene that shows that certain people have a pedophilia gene? Or, what about people who love their children or siblings so much, they must sleep with them -- even when the 2 people are consenting adults? It´s a slippery slope.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 49 - Posted by: dolphin, 12/11/2012 8:43:45 PM     (No. 9060558)

I think #37 is on to something. I have had similar experiences. Many gay people I´ve known were victims of early sexual abuse.

One gay abuse victim who worked with other abuse victims theorized that gayness was a form of dissociative behavior. She noticed that all multiple personality people always had a personality of the opposite sex. This would be something to look into, but I´m not holding my breath.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 50 - Posted by: Harlowe, 12/11/2012 9:01:03 PM     (No. 9060578)

#6 – Au contraire. In Romans 1:25-27, St. Paul wrote, “… they (women and men) … exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones …” St. Paul also wrote in 1 Corinthians 6:10 that “… men who have sex with men … will (not) inherit the kingdom of God.” In Leviticus 18:22, Moses wrote, “Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.”

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 51 - Posted by: ColoWapiti, 12/11/2012 9:06:40 PM     (No. 9060585)

I guess the left will now be interested in outlawing certain abortions.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 52 - Posted by: BarryNo, 12/11/2012 10:10:30 PM     (No. 9060639)

What malarkey. The gay people I know have gays only on their SAME-SEX parent´s side of the family. Also, outside of GLBT sites, I´ve never seen a legitimate link proven about the genetic factors of homosexuality. The only serious work I´ve seen hints that younger siblings in multi-sibling families tend to have a higher rate of becoming active homosexuals. The researcher in question felt that the societal influence of older siblings stunted the child´s development. But I suppose that would be politically incorrect.

I would not trust anything publicized these days as science, as anything more than political trash. People like the NASA jerk and the hockey-stick man have cost science tons of credibility.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 53 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 12/11/2012 10:37:42 PM     (No. 9060668)

Sorry, but this is thinking/activity is a sin, and the sin nature (the "old man") originates from the male only.
Scientists are once again wrong and the Bible is right.

The Bible also calls for public execution of those caught doing it.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 54 - Posted by: clw54, 12/11/2012 10:50:13 PM     (No. 9060680)

Now, watch the left oppose abortion in some circumstances.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 55 - Posted by: AGGW, 12/11/2012 11:38:10 PM     (No. 9060730)

I like #20´s post.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 56 - Posted by: Bla Bla, 12/12/2012 12:16:51 AM     (No. 9060757)

No baby is born gay, or even hetero, for that matter. They are asexual.

Social patterning, along with a natural desire for the opposite of ourselves, causes our sexuality to develop. Some genetic factors & sometimes hormone imbalances, play into this, as a feminine male or masculine female may find themselves attracted to their own sex that is more the opposite of them. Hatred for the opposite sex can occur from abuse/abandonment, as well as bonding with the opposite sex parent can cause emulation of that sex. Which is where the dna patterning comes in with this group of scientific studies.

I know I´m over-simplifying, but there is no gay gene. Artistic, analytic genes, yes. Homosexuality also is not a choice (unless some rebellious young adult wants to follow a fad for awhile). It becomes a hard-wired attraction that goes deep. It can be altered, if the person wants to do behavior modification, but the attraction will always be there. Those persons can & do develop sexual feelings for the opposite sex as they do the work required. So they, in essence, become bisexual.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 57 - Posted by: anonymous, 12/12/2012 1:17:34 AM     (No. 9060783)

Whatever the reason, it exists innately. People need to understand this and move on. Moralizing about something that exists innately simply leads to an argument that goes nowhere.

I´m not saying that people shouldn´t discuss this issue at the level of behavior. I think it´s legitimate to discuss it from the angle of promiscuity and the need to reduce this promiscuity. However, to agonize over why certain feelings exist is a ridiculously expensive way of conducting oneself. Liberals love it whenever conservatives make this expensive mistake.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

    2 persons like this.


Reply 58 - Posted by: doodah, 12/12/2012 8:49:52 AM     (No. 9061133)

Poster #57, those strict laws were written for the "dunder heads" Isralites who were a stubborn bunch and so the priests issued all those rules to try and keep them in line. When Jesus came, He did away with all of them and encouraged only Moses´/God´s Ten Commandments. The Bible can be very confusing and is that way, I believe, to make serious folks search for truth. I believe no one is born to be a homosexual, but his/her environment shapes the sexual desire. A righteous God would never condemn something that that person could not help! Say what you will, it will never be accurately proven that one is born gay. On the other hand, there are many straight folks who were "delivered" from homosexuality. We should hate no one and realize that all of us have sinned and need to be more tolerant.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 59 - Posted by: Hermoine, 12/12/2012 11:24:01 AM     (No. 9061514)

#49 -- Here´s what i´m referencing as well:

Romans:
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

-- as I´m reading this...God gave them over to their sinful nature, which is the "natural" state for humankind.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.


Reply 60 - Posted by: Nevadadad46, 12/12/2012 12:34:59 PM     (No. 9061667)

All a big deal over nothing. I have known many gay people who are just like every other person - they make a life, obey the law, have the same worries and goals as everyone else. It is when the radical elements of "gayism" get in your face and start their drive to "victim-hood" that the problems arise. They should study why some gay people want to become victims.

  Click Here if you Like this Comment

   1  person like this.



Post Reply   Close thread 715250




Below, you will find ...

Most Recent Articles posted by "Hermoine"

and

Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)




Most Recent Articles posted by "Hermoine"



Women are legally free to abort a baby
because of its sex, says abortion charity head
Telegraph (UK), by Alice Philipson    Original Article
Posted By: Hermoine- 3/28/2014 7:39:52 AM     Post Reply
Ann Furedi, of BPAS, said the law does not prevent women from choosing a termination on the grounds of gender and she even compared it to abortion after rape. Mrs Furedi´s comments come weeks after it was disclosed that the CPS had decided not to prosecute two doctors who were exposed by a Daily Telegraph investigation arranging terminations purely because the unborn baby was a girl. A group of 50 MPs, drawn from across the party divide, then wrote to this newspaper warning that the decision was a “step back in the fight for gender equality” and effectively changes the law without

More than 100 people
found in suspected stash house
Houston Chronicle, by St. John Barned-Smith*    Original Article
Posted By: Hermoine- 3/20/2014 7:21:07 AM     Post Reply
The phone call to police was a plea to help save a family held by smugglers. But when authorities raided the south Harris County home which they believed held the woman and children Wednesday, they found 110 people imprisoned in a packed, rancid "stash house" where smugglers had locked them away pending payment for their freedom. A tipster had told authorities the night before that he was being extorted by smugglers, and feared for the safety of relatives from Central America. The tipster had said that a coyote drop of the mother, her 7-year-old daughter and 5-year-old son was supposed to
Byline corrected by Staff.

Gay and lesbian troops
perform in drag on
American military base
The Week, by Jordan Valinsky    Original Article
Posted By: Hermoine- 3/4/2014 11:34:18 AM     Post Reply
Troops based at the Kadena Air Base in Japan know how to party. On Saturday, six gay and straight service members applied some of their finest makeup and lip synced to "I Wanna Dance with Somebody" in what is believed to be first drag queen and king show on an American military base. The show was thrown in support for the base´s recently formed OutServe-SLDN chapter, a nonprofit advocacy group for the army´s LGBT community. Navy Lt. Marissa Greene told Stars and Stripes she only expected to sell 75 tickets for the variety show, but ended up selling more than


Apple´s Tim Cook: Business
isn’t just about making a profit
Independent (UK), by Loulla-Mae Eleftheriou-Smith    Original Article
Posted By: Hermoine- 3/3/2014 3:37:36 PM     Post Reply
He leads a company that some would consider the epitome of ruthless global capitalism. But Apple chief executive Tim Cook has shocked some in the US with an impassioned attack on the single-minded pursuit of profit – and a direct appeal to climate-change deniers not to buy shares in his firm. Eyewitnesses said Cook, who succeeded Steve Jobs as boss of the technology giant in 2011, was visibly angry as he took on a group of right-wing investors during a question-and-answer session at a shareholders’ meeting.

King items to be be placed
in safe deposit box
Atlanta Journal-Constitution, by Ernie Suggs    Original Article
Posted By: Hermoine- 2/19/2014 9:57:08 PM     Post Reply
Judge Robert C. I. McBurney, has ordered that Bernice King turn over her father’s Bible and Nobel Peace Prize to the King Estate for safe keeping until a court decides whether or not her brothers can sell them on the open market. But there is a catch. McBurney said the items are to be stored in safe deposit box at a bank of the estate’s choosing, but the court will control the keys. “I think it is prudent that the two items be stored together in a safe deposit box,” McBurney said after a 2.5 hour hearing Wednesday night in the Fulton County

22-Year Old Beauty Queen
Fifth Death in Venezuelan
Anti-Government Protests
Breitbart Big Peace, by Frances Martel    Original Article
Posted By: Hermoine- 2/19/2014 9:54:25 PM     Post Reply
Genesis Carmona, a 22-year old beauty queen elected Miss Turismo Carabobo 2013, passed away today after being shot in the head during an anti-government protest in Venezuela. Carmona is the fifth young Venezuelan to die during peaceful anti-government protests in support of imprisoned opposition leader Leopoldo López.

Mom, boyfriend charged
with murder in baby’s death
Atlanta Journal-Constitution, by Alexis Stevens    Original Article
Posted By: Hermoine- 2/4/2014 7:39:09 AM     Post Reply
Eleven days after Journey Ann Cowart celebrated her first birthday, she was dead. The Bartow County sheriff said Monday the baby was beaten to death, allegedly at the hands of her mother and her mother’s boyfriend. And it wasn’t the first time she had been abused, Sheriff Clark Millsap said. “A fractured skull, blunt force trauma to the stomach,” Millsap said, describing Journey’s injuries. “The child had healed ribs that had previously been broken. And she also had a femur that had cracked and had already healed.”



Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)



Kim Novak responds to post-
Oscars ridicule: ‘I was bullied.’

54 replie(s)
Washington Post, by Soroya Nadia McDonald    Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly- 4/18/2014 5:02:40 AM     Post Reply
After presenting at the Academy Awards this year, Kim Novak didn’t want to leave her house. The Hitchcock screen siren, 81, was too humiliated to venture from her home near the Rogue River in Oregon. She read the cruel posts and Internet snark about her appearance, and it was just too much. “It got to me like it gets kids and teenagers,” she told the Associated Press. The “Vertigo” actress, considered one of the great beauties in her day, posted a note on her Facebook wall Thursday, acknowledging that she’d gotten fat injections in her face and addressing her halted

White House blames fox for
destroying Michelle’s garden

45 replie(s)
Daily Caller, by Vince Coglianese    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 3:59:04 PM     Post Reply
The White House is going to war with another fox — and this time, it’s personal. The Wall Street Journal reports that a red fox has been causing chaos around the White House, tripping security alarms, digging up Michelle’s garden and distracting the president from his duties. The Secret Service won’t give any details about how often the fox trips the White House’s obviously sophisticated security alarms, but rest assured, officials say, they’re watching. President Obama was apparently “stunned” to see the fox roaming freely down the oft-photographed White House colonnade, home to the world’s shortest, but most dramatic, outdoor strolls. The bushy-tailed visitor

The Folly Of The Bundy Ranch Rebellion
44 replie(s)
The Federalist, by Grace Olmstead    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/18/2014 4:21:46 AM     Post Reply
It’s the stuff of Westerns: a showdown on the desert plains, the big bad government against an underdog farmer. Though the story has only grabbed national headlines in the past several days, rancher Cliven Bundy has illegally grazed cattle on the Nevada land surrounding his farm for over 20 years. He hasn’t paid grazing fees since 1993, and refuses to renew the necessary grazing permit.(Snip)Rather than using the avenues and pathways presented to him, Bundy has staunchly declared his own law and allegiances. Unfortunately, reality doesn’t work this way. If only it did—we could rebel for paying stupid taxes, refuse to

Students Demand Acknowledgement of
Robert E. Lee´s ´Racist and Dishonorable Conduct´

43 replie(s)
Breitbart´s Big Government, by AWR Hawkins    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/18/2014 12:35:28 PM     Post Reply
A group of seven multiracial Washington and Lee University (W&L) students are demanding the school remove all Confederate flags from campus and "acknowledge" General Robert E. Lee´s "dishonorable side." According to the Roanoke Times, "seven multiracial students, calling themselves ´The Committee,´" have also demanded the school "acknowledge and apologize for participating in chattel slavery." They want recognition of "Martin Luther King Jr. Day on the undergraduate campus" and an end to "neo-Confederates" marching across campus "to the Lee Chapel on Lee-Jackson Day." The students say they will "engage in civil disobedience" if their demands are not met by September 1st. They added: "The

Living in the New York Times World
38 replie(s)
American Thinker, by J. Paul Masko    Original Article
Posted By: magnante- 4/19/2014 7:48:36 AM     Post Reply
I began reading the entirety of the first section of the New York Times at nine years old, and continued that practice, more or less, for decades.(snip) ...the power of reverence, intrinsic to what I call the “cascade” of The Times: the near avalanche-like flow and distribution of information through electronic and print networks: through like-minded network newscasts, magazines, local newspaper s, blogs, daytime talk TV, late-night entertainment, statements at media award ceremonies, the celebrity Twitterverse, etc. The cascade rolls through Saturday Night Live, Jon Stewart, The New Yorker, the mouths of third-grade teachers, Elmo, Madonna and Susan Sarandon …through

In a Hole, Golf Considers
Digging a Wider One

32 replie(s)
New York Times, by Bill Pennington    Original Article
Posted By: Pluperfect- 4/19/2014 10:48:33 AM     Post Reply
GREENSBORO, Ga. — Golf holes the size of pizzas. Soccer balls on the back nine. A mulligan on every hole. These are some of the measures — some would say gimmicks — that golf courses across the country have experimented with to stop people from quitting the game. Golf has always reveled in its standards and rich tradition. But increasingly a victim of its own image and hidebound ways, golf has lost five million players in the last decade, according to the National Golf Foundation, with 20 percent of the existing 25 million golfers apt to quit in the next few years. People under 35 have especially spurned the game, saying it takes too

´America´s royal baby´: How Chelsea´s first
child could give Hillary Clinton a boost in
the polls if she runs for president in 2016

32 replie(s)
Daily Mail (U.K.), by Jessica Jerreat    Original Article
Posted By: Desert Fox- 4/19/2014 7:12:10 PM     Post Reply
For Hillary Clinton, having her own baby grandchild to kiss on the campaign trail, could be one of the biggest boosts to her possible presidential election campaign. Although the former Secretary of State and First Lady has not said if she will run in 2016, the arrival of her first grandchild will soften her image, analysts have said. While Chelsea only revealed her pregnancy on Thursday, supporters of her mother have already started cooing over a possible baby in the White House. With the Clintons having a near-royal status in the U.S., the announcement of a new arrival due this fall has sent


Post Reply   Close thread 715250





Home Page | Latest Posts | Links | Must Reads | Update Profile | RSS | Contribute | Register | Rules & FAQs
Privacy Policy | Search | Post | Contact | Logout | Forgot Password | Search Using Google


© 2014 Lucianne.com Media Inc.

~~~c~~~