No matter the budget deals, since Oct 1 (Beginning of Fiscal Year 2013) borrowing has increased to 46% of all Federal spending. In light of this we should let Bush tax cuts expire and let all the other temporary incentives expire.

Let´s move back to a place where the tax burden is shared by a larger base, then maybe we will as a whole take a more mature look at our future and our current foolish spending.

If we do not fall over the fiscal cliff now then we are bound to fall off Mt. Everest later.

I´m with #1. Also, if we do go over the "Fiscal Cliff", life will just go on, even a very slightly reduced government. The Dems have been selling the canard now for decades that ANY decrease in Washington will be totally unbearable.

Let´s just do it, over the "cliff" we go.

And the Tea Party is vilified for wanting the government to live within its means. Go figure.

The elected members of the Republican party are what they are. They will never change and voting only encourages them.

Why is this a Republican problem? Is´t this the BO administration?

Right now it is said repeatedly by the liberal media that Obama holds the best cards, and he has been told that if and when the feces hit the fan that it will be the wimpy Republicans who the majority of the American people will blame. So why should Obama give an inch?

Things may change, because you can bet that most of the people who would blame the Republicans are people who now have no tax liability or very little tax liability. Once they have some skin or more skin in the game they may take a different attitude about Obama and the liberal Democrats higher tax and spend agendas.

What really makes me angry is the financial trashing of the country. We have so dishonored all the men and women who have given their blood and treasure to defend liberty and justice for all. When does it end?

The Republicans can only lose if they give in to Obama´s demands. Stand steady and let the best budget deal we will ever have go into effect. It includes real budget cuts, as well as some tax increases which the House can correct later.

Time to stand firm.
Obama OWNS these tax increases.
ObamaTAX and Obama tax increases coupled with regulatory suffocation are all designed for control and wealth redistribution to the Third World as America is brought to its knees.
The us military needs to recognize the greatest terrorist threat occupies 1600 PA avenue.
Is he the legitimate POTUS and CIC?
Would an enemy agent act differently?

Why aren´t we talking over and over and over that it´s SPENDING that´s the problem!!

If you´re saying Operation Self Humiliation that is more like...infinite stupidity! Will a REAL LEADER please emerge to lead this great land of Washington, Adams, & Jefferson!

1 and 2, if the tax base is broadened Obama voters will be required to pay taxes. Obama is not going to do anything to alienate them. Besides, people have to be employed in order to pay taxes and in the next four years fewer and fewer jobs will be available. What is doable under a Republican administration is not doable under a Democrat administration.

Obama wants to runin this country, not save it. Once you get that through your heads you will stop blaming Republicans.

Making the country pay the taxes necessary to support expansive entitlements is a principled position. It´s a matter of paying for what you get. Unless Democrats enact entitlement cuts, higher taxes are a certainty.

#12, it is you who does not understand. When the Bush tax rates expire the old rates (in all brackets) become the law of the land and Obama has no control over any new rates without the consent of the House which can then have a major say in what any new tax code will be. If the House capitulates now it will be without influence in the upcoming term.

Cliff now or Mt. Everest later?

The Democrats are what they are. The problem is that the Republican Party is a coalition of 60% movement conservatives and 40% moderate conservative. The moderates command the money and the leadership. They are happy to "Democrats Lite" and a minority party forever. Movement types may eventually replace these "leaders," especially if they humiliate us before Obama the Arrogant, but if that happens the moderates will never fall in line behind the movement people. So where do we ever get a majority again? I don´t see any easy answer.

I respectfully disagree with the posters who say we should let the current tax rates expire so that there is a broader tax base. The brunt of the higher taxes will be carried by small businesses who provide most of the jobs in this country. It makes no sense to add yet another burden to the job creators. The government needs to spend less of our money.

He did say vote because of revenge.