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Topic: Black boxes in cars
raise privacy concerns |
Black boxes in cars
raise privacy concerns
Associated Press, by Staff
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Posted By:KarenJ1, 12/7/2012 10:29:05 AM
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| Many motorists don´t know it, but it´s likely that every time they get behind the wheel, there´s a snitch along for the ride. In the next few days, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is expected to propose long-delayed regulations requiring auto manufacturers to include event data recorders — better known as "black boxes" — in all new cars and light trucks. But the agency is behind the curve. Automakers have been quietly tucking the devices, which automatically record the actions of drivers and the responses of their vehicles in a continuous information loop, into most new cars for years.
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Comments:
Big Brother is everywhere and it´s getting worse every single day. The trial lawyers are probably salivating.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
Emmajustin, 12/7/2012 10:40:30 AM (No. 9053518)
Is it possible for the owner to remove the device?
Luckily I have an older car that doesn´t have one. This may put me off buying a new one (just like I won´t buy a new smart phone because they listen to the calls and track me). Yes I am paranoid.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
addicted_to_coffee, 12/7/2012 10:42:24 AM (No. 9053523)
I guess I´ll keep my ´49 Cadillac
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
nhchemist, 12/7/2012 10:43:43 AM (No. 9053526)
I have been told that the black box is built into the air bag controller, so removal will prevent the air bags from functioning.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
QRP, 12/7/2012 10:45:27 AM (No. 9053532)
Another threat is the dongles that insurance companies want you to plug into your ODB II connector. They are also "black boxes" that tell the insurance company how you drive.
If ODB III (On Board Diagnostics) is ever approved then the vehicle can be interrogated electronically for its operating conditions including, but not limited to, its speed.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
kono, 12/7/2012 10:58:57 AM (No. 9053570)
Fine, feds. I´ll freakin´ walk, instead. Just a bunch o´ wankers sittin´ around consing-up new ways to pry and control.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
RancherJack, 12/7/2012 11:05:47 AM (No. 9053587)
1984 Ford F250
1970 Toyota 4x4 PU
1980 Chevrolet Impala (heavily modified)
1985 Ford Bronco XLT (heavily modified)
1970 Jeep (almost a rock crawler)
Case, Farmall, Ford, New Holland, Massey Ferguson, Deere and other brands makes and models.
Three road motorcycles, six dirt bikes both 2cyl and 4cyl. Three ATVs and three sleds.
Don´t think any of ´em are black boxed. ´Cause we do our own maintenance.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
capt scurvey, 12/7/2012 11:12:38 AM (No. 9053603)
They´ve had them for years. The only thing new is the Public´s awareness...
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
frede, 12/7/2012 11:23:35 AM (No. 9053617)
They will also add GPS. You won´t know, because it is buried in one of the CPU chips. Its in many cell phones, so why not in your car?
The Ins. companies and lawyers will have full access.
Mark my word.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna, 12/7/2012 11:32:20 AM (No. 9053632)
All my girls have points,condensers and carbourators.
Except the duce & a half is a diesel.
Rule # 17 If you can´t fix it, you can´t have it.
Get rural.
Get real.
Live to tell about it.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
justavoter, 12/7/2012 11:43:17 AM (No. 9053665)
I have a Morgan Horse that does not require an on board diagnostic device. He is a joy to ride.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Bloviate, 12/7/2012 12:52:00 PM (No. 9053796)
Have you heard about the cameras that have been put on our highways? The only purpose of them is to take a photo of our license plate. I don’t know how long thes photos are stored. It is already being used in Maryland.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
NYbob, 12/7/2012 1:01:47 PM (No. 9053824)
In the near future there will be a decree that all vehicles over 10 years old must be crushed. I think Japan already does this, but here it will be ´necessary´ to save the earth, ´American´ jobs and of course to make sure they know where everyone is and how they are driving. The kids like bigger government, to the point of mind numbing oppression so shut up.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Michaelus, 12/7/2012 1:21:46 PM (No. 9053878)
Get real - if anyone cared about privacy all those cameras along every highway would be gone.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
saryden, 12/7/2012 1:43:12 PM (No. 9053918)
Then there are the "smart meters" rather secretively put on our homes so utilities can be read from space -- and turned on and off when UN Agenda 21 decrees??
But the power companies, county commissioners, and mayors got a little something from the UN for compliance.
There are lawsuits over whether these meters are also causing health problems. You can Google Smart Meters and investigate.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
veritas, 12/7/2012 3:05:28 PM (No. 9054057)
Much intrusion is already here in various ways with OBD II and untold other invasions of privacy. Other malefactors seem to gravitate to the Internet. Their default position seems to be, if you come to our site, we have carte blanche to search everything we can reach, and to treat anything we find as our property to sell, trade, manipulate, what-have-you.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Penney, 12/7/2012 3:35:57 PM (No. 9054097)
Big Brother Gov´t strikes again? mmm mmm mmm
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