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Obama changes tune on budget
Washington Times, by Susan Crabtree

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Posted By:Dreadnought, 12/5/2012 10:41:11 PM

While he now demands that higher tax rates for the wealthy must be part of a “fiscal cliff” deal, President Obama took a very different line just over a year ago in the last major clash with Congress over a long-term budget deal. In comments Republicans on Capitol Hill are highlighting, Mr. Obama argued in the summer of 2011 that the government could raise more than $1 trillion in revenue without increasing tax rates paid by the rich — something the president now contends is mathematically impossible. “What we said was, give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues
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Reply 1 - Posted by: veritas, 12/5/2012 11:30:44 PM     (No. 9050826)

So, the pols intentionally, knowingly, set up a huge disaster roaring down the road at us. One that would wreck just about everything. Gut the military. Lead to yet another debt downgrade. A huge disaster so hugely bad that, hey, there´s just absolutely n-o-o-o-o possible way ever, no Stanley-Cup-Finals-in-Hell-way, that they´d ever, ever, ever, ever, ever let it get to that.

And which is now a couple weeks of more pointless posturing away.

Wanna help me pluck some chickens? We need feathers. Lots of feathers. Lots. And lots, and lots, and lots, and....

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Reply 2 - Posted by: horacer, 12/5/2012 11:50:10 PM     (No. 9050838)

“Let’s broaden the base, let’s reduce the rate,” Jarrett said at a Bloomberg breakfast at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina. “That means we are going to close some loopholes, but that’s going to benefit the broader business community.”

From September 4th of this year. Let´s reduce the rates. Valerie Jarrett said it 90 days ago. I can´t take another 4 years of this.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: STLstudent, 12/6/2012 12:43:11 AM     (No. 9050882)

They will do very well if all that opposes them are the current crop of stupid, unprincipled, cowardly Republicans. What do Republicans stand for? The answer is "absolutely nothing." They give us mushy, stand-for-nothing presidential candidates and then wonder why they lose. Republicans still have the House; use it or lose it too.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: steveW, 12/6/2012 12:43:13 AM     (No. 9050883)

If Obama said something was possible then but impossible now, it´s not because he is stupid or because he is lying, it´s because he is omniscient. We know this because his court eunuch´s say so, and they too are omniscient.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: belwhatter, 12/6/2012 2:18:53 AM     (No. 9050916)

When has obama ever said anything that made sense [or was true] two days in a row?

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Reply 6 - Posted by: pineledger, 12/6/2012 6:59:26 AM     (No. 9051052)

Insisting on a RATE hike to get to the same numbers as loophole eliminations is a trap. They want both.

Remember "revenge"???

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Reply 7 - Posted by: 3XALADY, 12/6/2012 7:23:34 AM     (No. 9051081)

I´m 68 years old and am finally reaching the point of promising myself to never go to the voting booth again as long as there are only the dhims and dhim-lites to vote for. Both parties make me sick. And especially John ´Tammy Faye´ Boehner and Eric Cantor. Mr. McConnell not far behind. Our leadership sux.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Arby, 12/6/2012 8:00:32 AM     (No. 9051147)

He clearly, consistently and constantly contradicts himself. Earnestly. And the idiots in the LSM and the idiots who voted for him blithely sit there, worshipping him. He is either incompetent or he is a total and complete liar. To them it doth not matter.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: LZK, 12/6/2012 8:11:50 AM     (No. 9051165)

No one will challenge obama because he´s black and the libbies and libbie/lite don´t want to be called "racist"....

The "won" has hit on a winning method of robbing our children blind.....

So -- my friends -- don´t let the libbies spoil your Christmas. Tune out the craziness and hummmmm Jingle Bells and wrap packages....

Merry Christmas!!

LZK

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Reply 10 - Posted by: jimmyfoxhound, 12/6/2012 8:21:55 AM     (No. 9051188)

Lying is as simple as breathing to these people.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: maryc, 12/6/2012 8:32:57 AM     (No. 9051209)

The taxes are going up becaause like a bad team in the clutch you know the repubs. will cave. I´m tired of watching my team lose. We need some new coaches. And we need a pr firm that can go up against the propaganda press that the repub. leaders are so afraid of.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Felixcat, 12/6/2012 9:22:07 AM     (No. 9051299)

Has anyone noticed the lack of coverage of Greece, Spain, etc and how they´re dealing with their fiscal cliff/fiancial crisis? I hear reports of businessmen rummaging through garbage for food, etc, but no pictures.

So I guess to the "average American", aka the idiots who voted for Obama, Europe is doing just swell and all this talk of doom and gloom is nothing. So why worry?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: owl, 12/6/2012 9:53:42 AM     (No. 9051370)

And nothing is said about his attack on business , such as just how many rules and regs .. Now e read electricity rates could skyrocket .

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Reply 14 - Posted by: OhMy, 12/6/2012 10:13:14 AM     (No. 9051424)

The higher rates Obama demands will be at best a drop in the bucket compared to his spending. He only wants this because he knows that it will be political suicide for the republicans who go along. He is pushing the GOP to betray it´s own base and they are signalling that they will comply! Just imagine if republicans demanded Obama cut support for all dependents on government 10% and betray his base. Would Obama agree to cut his own political throat? You all know the answer to that!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: RancherJack, 12/6/2012 11:08:40 AM     (No. 9051589)

Mods write a great headline

think what he´s doing where we can´t see.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: nevernaught, 12/6/2012 11:18:32 AM     (No. 9051626)

Face it... as long as you keep raising the debt ceiling, Obama doesn´t need a budget from Congress to keep spending money. If they go over the so called fiscal cliff, they own the problem, not Republicans.



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Reply 17 - Posted by: GreatPlains, 12/6/2012 1:00:18 PM     (No. 9051969)

I wish I was privy to the discussions that Boehner and McConnell and the rest of the leadership are having like everyone
else here apparently is.
Limbaugh and Levin must have special listening devices
and mind reading skills because
they cannot stop trashing Republicans for making deals
that haven´t been made .
The radio big mouths should stop running their mouths
and run for office .
Or form a third party that makes them happy instead of complaining about Republicans 24 /7
like they have been doing for decades.
McConnell´s move yesterday should have gotten
great applause from the complainers , but, it won´t .
Sometimes I think Obama is a total moron
who has no idea what is going on and is content to frolic with his boyfriends and play golf, while others play
the role of Commander in Chief and POTUS.
Other times I believe the guy is a devious , hate filled , anti American maniac who is doing everything possible to destroy the military , our economy and our way of life.
Most likely both scenarios are true.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/6/2012 2:27:32 PM     (No. 9052109)

#6 is right. Any remnants of the Bush tax rates will expire in just over a year. Closing of loopholes, eliminating deductions, etc will last forever. Far better to go over the cliff and force everyone to pay higher taxes. Obama´s base is going to complain the loudest when the extensions on tax credits, the Payroll Tax Holiday, and the progressive nature of the Bush tax rates disappear. Think of Council women in Detroit. Think of all the ´boyfriends´ who complained when the tax credit checks got delayed during the last debt limit deal fell through.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: lencu255, 12/6/2012 3:28:34 PM     (No. 9052223)

I am frothing at my mouth: why the conservatives don´t build our own mainstream media???
Everybody on the left understands the power of propaganda - commies and fascists alike had tons of theoretical books written on that issue. Marx, lenin, hitler, chavez, castro know that, but our repubics DON´T!
We will never be able to win anything just because the lefties run things absolutely without conservatives countering them.
They dis anything offered by repubics, lie about it, and American public gobbles it up like all the sheeple do!
Also, conservative mainstream media could expose the rinos for what damage they do to the country being only concerned about clinging to whatever power is left to them by the leftist commies.
Un-f-believable!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: OregonBoomerGirl, 12/6/2012 4:01:44 PM     (No. 9052275)

Yes, # 20! This is what´s needed! I posted about it yesterday. Set up their own cable station to explain conservative principles, buy a lot of prime time, really promote a conservative magazine, and online, buy a newpaper, buy huge shares of a mainstream media news outfit, so many of these things they could do. Because they need to do a lot of explaining and teaching, and they are blocked in the regular media.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: lencu255, 12/6/2012 4:07:41 PM     (No. 9052279)

Also, #18, think about this: do you think that the lefties are concerned about ideology? Look at the leftist totalitarian countries - where there is ideology, in n.korea, venezuela, cuba, vietnam, russia, ukraine? They don´t care about masses, never were, the only thing they care about is power. What they do with it is different matter. In our country they want to destroy the opposition, any free thinking people (in our case independent middle class). And they use all the propaganda they can - because they have mainstream media! (look at my previous post #20).


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Reply 22 - Posted by: Lawsy0, 12/6/2012 4:27:53 PM     (No. 9052311)

Tell old Pharaoh, let my money go!

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Reply 23 - Posted by: kono, 12/6/2012 4:57:41 PM     (No. 9052346)

#20 -- Doing nothing to resist the Left´s strangle-hold on the mainstream media offers little hope for improving the credibility of their reporting. But fighting propaganda with counter-propaganda will bring about truth about as effectively as fighting chaos with more chaos will restore order.

For almost 20 years, talk radio HAS BEEN the right´s own ´mainstream media´. Has that brought about any reform or balance to the Leftstream Media?

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Reply 24 - Posted by: NYbob, 12/6/2012 6:22:39 PM     (No. 9052461)

#24, AM radio is a lot smaller than we think. It is a choir, just like this site. That´s no fault of either, it´s just the fact that liberals are either lazy or they camp out at their sites like PBS, etc. It sure would have been nice to have a counter CNN around the same time ONE man, Ted Turner, started his ´most trusted news´ network, but we didn´t. Now we can´t even mount a show to combat the daily insanity of ´The Daily Show.´

I hope The Blaze can grow, I hope the kid with the camcorder does more muckraking and it would be nice if a few in Hollywood followed Leno´s change of heart and explained Obama´s moves to their audiences, but that still leaves the entire education system and just about every polling place.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Dodge Boy, 12/6/2012 7:57:28 PM     (No. 9052623)

It makes no diff what Obie does from this day forward. The msm covers for him and Americans are too ignorant to question what they hear (or dont hear) from the msm, and the public schools go on indoctrinating the young people to become new dims. PO´d yet enough, folks, to do something about it?

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