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GOP´s $4.6T ´fiscal cliff´
counterproposal rebuffed

USA Today, by Susan Davis

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Posted By:earlybird, 12/3/2012 11:10:43 PM

WASHINGTON — House Republicans sent a counterproposal to avert the "fiscal cliff" to the White House on Monday outlining a $4.6 trillion deficit reduction proposal without raising tax rates. (Snip) The Republicans´ proposal is based on a framework outlined last year by former Clinton White House chief of staff Erskine Bowles, who co-chaired Obama´s debt commission, and included an increase in the eligibility age for Medicare benefits. Republicans did not offer specific language on raising the age in their proposal, but Bowles has supported raising the age to 67. Boehner called it a "la-la land

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Reply 1 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/3/2012 11:12:10 PM     (No. 9047090)

Article published at 10:58 tonight.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: earlybird, 12/3/2012 11:12:24 PM     (No. 9047091)

Eastern time...

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Trigger2, 12/4/2012 3:19:38 AM     (No. 9047243)

But, but Barry said he wanted entitlement reform. What a liar.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Spidey, 12/4/2012 3:29:22 AM     (No. 9047246)

With this new report out that says sitting could be catastrophic to your health,it wouldn´t surprise me if Obama wanted a $100 billion to educate people on standing.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: Nimby, 12/4/2012 4:12:40 AM     (No. 9047263)

They should resubmit Simson-Bowles

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Reply 6 - Posted by: LZK, 12/4/2012 7:16:26 AM     (No. 9047361)

Is there anyone of you -- out there -- surprised???

obama´s puppet masters are not going to "let him" settle this because THEY want the added Bush Taxes it will bring. THEY get the money and the republicans get the blame....

Think like a Union organizer and you´ll get it....

LZK

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Reply 7 - Posted by: john c, 12/4/2012 8:08:15 AM     (No. 9047448)

Heard that the tax increase on the 2% would run the government for 7 days.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Arby, 12/4/2012 8:09:20 AM     (No. 9047452)

How is Fauxbama going to take Moochelle to Hawaii if he has to keep running the government? Oh, I forgot, he doesn´t run anything but his mouth.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Barbarian Heretic, 12/4/2012 8:28:34 AM     (No. 9047486)

Step back from the scary words and consider this:

- The "fiscal cliff" gives us a 9% cut across the board in federal expenditures. You won´t get that through negotiations.

- Yes, it raises taxes. But it raises ALL taxes so EVERY American shares the pain in some way.

- Let´s just see how the Obama voters like it when THEIR incomes are in the crosshairs to pay for Big Bird and lobster research.

- Then in 2014-2016 let the GOP campaign as the Party seeking ACROSS-THE-BOARD tax cuts for ALL AMERICANS

I´m a Cliff-Diver because I don´t believe we can get the necessary spending cuts to rein in the Federal Leviathan in any other way. And I´ve been lied to about the "crisis" way too much.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: JoElla Bee, 12/4/2012 8:33:04 AM     (No. 9047501)

Well, that didn´t take long. As usual, I´m impressed with "timeliness" of the Dems´ "consideration" of Republican proposals.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: TunnelRat, 12/4/2012 8:44:59 AM     (No. 9047531)

So, go ahead, Mr. Boehner, write it up and pass it in the House; then send it to the Senate. If (or when) the bill stalls in the Senate, or if Mr. Obama refuses to sign it, then the fault is on the Democrats.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: OperaBuff, 12/4/2012 8:53:50 AM     (No. 9047548)

When the president´s plane goes wheels up for Hawaii, then Speaker Boehner should adjourn the House and go home, promising to call the House back in session when the president returns from his 3-week vacation on the beach.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Rinktum, 12/4/2012 8:54:41 AM     (No. 9047551)

I am getting contrary in my golden years so I am of the mind to bring on the fiscal cliff. When the government tells us we will all die a terrible death financially, I am reminded of the same squawking in September of 2008 when they "saved" us. Personally, I believe it is about time that everyone has skin in the game. If we are truly in such dire straits won´t these Americans who receive goodies from the government want to do their FAIR share. Well, I think it´s time for the takers to be educated on the concept of nothing is ever free and the bill is coming to their door too.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: Eheu Fugaces, 12/4/2012 9:02:01 AM     (No. 9047575)

#3 - Er, you fail to understand Obamese -- in Obamese, "entitlement reform" means more, bigger entitlements. Don´t forget, it´s the "entitled" that form Obama´s voting base. Got to pay those guys and gals off for their hard work in voting.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: LAW428, 12/4/2012 9:09:27 AM     (No. 9047592)

We are morphing into serfs on Obama´s Socialist plantation. Who died and made this skinny little illegitimate creep a king anyway?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: tulunk, 12/4/2012 10:02:52 AM     (No. 9047726)

Anybody else notice the similarities between the GOP leadership and a "battered woman?" We see every excuse in the book accepting the abuse dealt out by "the winners." We hear, "they mean well", "my esteemed colleagues across the aisle", McCain and Kerry winking and nudging one another.....Washington is a steaming pile of corruption, and the only thing I can see that our GOP "leaders" oppose in Big Government is that they didn´t win the battle to see who gets to administer it.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: smcchk, 12/4/2012 10:09:45 AM     (No. 9047748)

The article says that Obama wants to avoid another debt ceiling limit fight in February as the last one "rattled" Wall Street. Oh, please, like it is the fight, not the amount of debt, that scares Wall Street.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/4/2012 10:12:02 AM     (No. 9047757)

Going over the cliff would put 427 billion of revenue into the government coffers in 2013, only 42 billion of it from the Rich. He also will get Obamacare taxes of 24 billion. And he will be forced to make the Sequester cuts.

This wasn´t his plan. He planned to step by step raise the higher brackets while protecting the redistribution brackets. Give it all now and then he needs to make matching cuts. He and the press will blame the GOP no matter what.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: tee seeker, 12/4/2012 10:14:39 AM     (No. 9047759)

The Republicans should just walk away from the negotiations. Let the Democrats own the impending disaster.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: reilly, 12/4/2012 10:29:59 AM     (No. 9047785)


Past caring. Let the world go upside down. Bring it on, dummy. If we´re a resilient nation, we´ll come back.
This guy deserves a fall, and he´ll get it.


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Reply 21 - Posted by: mainecoonmama, 12/4/2012 11:39:37 AM     (No. 9047929)

I´m for anything that makes Obama´s "bottom feeders" suffer. Tax cuts across the board-go for it! As for being blamed, the Republicans probably won´t win another election anyway, so who cares if "they" like us or not.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: owl, 12/4/2012 11:41:29 AM     (No. 9047935)

Forget this column and read about Boehner in the Wash Times . Yep , he´s offered them a tax hike . The dope is roped once again -- spending cuts ? . The same tactic used on him last time . Those cuts might come about in , what , 2045 .

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Reply 23 - Posted by: maryc, 12/4/2012 1:06:50 PM     (No. 9048131)

Propaganda press wants him to have all that he wants. Anyone who earns and saves will be punished for their trouble. The dictator and his minions in the senate and his cheerleader propaganda machine all want the same thing. Our republican leaders don´t want any negative ´publicity´ so they will cave. We do not have a president. We have a spoiled baby king steadily changing into a dictator.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: nevernaught, 12/4/2012 5:38:44 PM     (No. 9048615)

Of course it was... does the GOP think they are dealing with a sane or smart person who cares about the USA. Here´s the deal, put your final fiscal package together, send it to that mixed bag of feces in the Senate with an attached note... ´Last and final offer. Take it or leave it. See you next year. You ain´t passed a budget for four wasted years so we don´t hold out much hope´.

Keep your Quorum on the floor so the incompetent from Kenya can´t be namin´ people behind your suddenly stiff back.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: trapper, 12/4/2012 6:08:48 PM     (No. 9048656)

The Republicans are now forced to deal with the consequences of allowing Obama to define the terms. Those who own businesses and create jobs have been demonized as "the wealthy" for two years with no pushback from Republicans. No calling out marxist propaganda for what it always has been. So they are now somehow surprised that they have been backed into a corner on it?

Grow up. You can´t win the "tax the rich" argument now because you surrendered on it two years ago, so just hold your breath and take a big bite of the big brown sandwich. But at least make the middle tax tax rates permanent, not just a two year extension. At least get that.

I know. I know. I´ve been arguing for across the board rates. That´s just my anger at Republicans. You won´t get it. He´ll just veto it and make you eat it later.

And why in the world did Boehner NOT show up in front of the cameras frothing at the mouth screaming at anyone who would listen that Obama is pushing for dictatorial powers with unlimited power to raise the debt limit? The Republicans should have been tag teaming this non stop for the cameras 24 hours a day. You can´t control the narrative unless you CONTROL the narrative. Anyone who thinks this was just an over the top throw away negotiating chip has not been paying attention.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: WimeTarmerFable, 12/4/2012 6:25:40 PM     (No. 9048678)

Doesn´t anyone in the GOP besides Paul Ryan have a spine?

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Reply 27 - Posted by: sayitisntso, 12/4/2012 8:52:07 PM     (No. 9048833)

Everyone seems to forget that an election is an indication of the national character. You can´t fix the result if you over
look the cause. A society that is losing its moral base will chose for president the person who reflects that direction

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