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Poll: Republicans Getting Massacred
in Debate Over Tax Increases

Breitbart News, by John Nolte

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Posted By:smcchk, 12/2/2012 7:13:56 PM

How is it that the GOP is so feckless and ineffective that it can´t even convince the 48% who voted for Romney that raising taxes on those making over $250,000 is both pointless and bad policy: Sixty percent of all Americans back higher taxes on higher incomes in the new Post-ABC data. Earlier this month, an identical 60 percent of voters in the presidential election said income taxes should be raised on income over $250,000, according to the national exit poll.

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They lost this battle before it began. Give it up, GOP.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: supersid, 12/2/2012 7:26:45 PM     (No. 9044971)

Heard on ´meet the press´ today (on radio, so do not know who it was) - if there is no deal, dems will let the Bush tax cuts expire, and then in January propose a new bill that reduces tax rates back on 98% of the population. So they will get what they want.

There is no substitute to winning elections.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 12/2/2012 7:38:31 PM     (No. 9044979)

Several GOP members of both Houses have already indicated their willingness to raise taxes before a single dem raised the issue. Not only does this behavior show how stupid they are but it proves both Boehner and McConnell have no control over their membership.

With friends like the republicans who needs enemies.....

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Reply 3 - Posted by: LanieLou, 12/2/2012 7:38:42 PM     (No. 9044980)

The war on truth is On like Donky Kong!

Just got an email from MoveOn.org... informing me that the Senate has Passed Obama´s tax bill but the House is holding it up !!!!!

This is coming from Obama´s micreants who have big megaphones...

Some nice GOPer needs to go on morning talk shows & Leno... and Tell The Truth!

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Reply 4 - Posted by: MissMann, 12/2/2012 7:44:11 PM     (No. 9044985)

The only arguments I hear against raising taxes are the ones I mutter to myself. The GOP is absolutely horrible at marketing their postions.

Despite the fraud, the election taught me that a wide swath of America no longer has an instinct for our founding principles and must be re-persuaded of their value. We have a lot of work to do!


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Reply 5 - Posted by: Arizona Chief, 12/2/2012 7:52:03 PM     (No. 9044992)

The polling of how people feel about increased taxing of the wealthy should be no mystery - First it was big oil, then big insurance companies, big, bad Wall Street - anything to divide the country along economic measures. Is it any wonder that after 5--6 years of this garbage that people dislike anyone or any thing that earns more than they do? One of the most essential revisions to our tax system has to be that ALL people pay Federal income taxes taxes - EVERYONE! With no skin in the game, almost half of the population couldn´t care less about any tax policy or amount.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: gesundheit, 12/2/2012 8:10:23 PM     (No. 9045021)

The majority of the Republicans serving in the House now were elected two years ago based on pledges that they would not raise taxes.

They honored their pledges and most of them were re-elected last month based on the same pledge.

It should not matter to them what the 99% of poll respondents living outside their districts think about tax increases.

Next year, when Congress reconvenes, the Republicans in the House will propose a bill restoring the Bush tax cuts, and it will pass because Republicans will be in the majority. If Nancy Pelosi wants the Democrats to propose a bill that increases taxes on anyone it will not pass because the Democrats are in the minority.

Then, if Obama and the Democrats want to restore the middle-class tax cuts that went over the cliff with everything else, they will have to pass the House´s bill restoring all of the tax cuts. This should give the President something to think about while he´s golfing in Hawaii.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Axeman, 12/2/2012 8:12:21 PM     (No. 9045023)

What real cuts are being proposed?
If the only way to get cuts is to let the tax rates go back up, then at least there will be some kind of cuts. More cuts could be negotiated from there.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: god of irony, 12/2/2012 8:13:36 PM     (No. 9045025)

What debate? There is not a single Republican out there debating anything.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Sfacheem, 12/2/2012 8:16:12 PM     (No. 9045029)

Give the people what they want.

Raise taxes.

Impose Health Care.

Rob from the rich and give to the poor.

Give them exactly what they want...and deserve. I´ll be poppin´ the corn. Can´t wait to watch the disaster play out.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: slrobi, 12/2/2012 8:17:45 PM     (No. 9045031)

It´s just human nature to want to make someone else pay. Even my mom, who voted for Romney, thinks we should raise taxes on the top 2%.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/2/2012 8:22:12 PM     (No. 9045035)

Really, the Dems would write a law extending Bush tax cuts for 98% of the people for just one year? And what are they going to do about the cuts in Sequestration? And what about all the new taxes Obama is proposing? I don´t think it will help them to show everyone just what is coming next year when the extension runs out. Their strategy is to get the GOP to cave.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: noproblems, 12/2/2012 8:33:34 PM     (No. 9045041)

I do not understand why folks do not see that 0bama and the Dimms want to blame the Repugs for the upcoming fiasco created by 0bamacare and his other failed policies.

Let the Dimms own the freakin economy for goodness sakes. Let them raise taxes on the "rich" for a year or two. It will be seen as a failure like all of 0bama´s policies.

The Repugs are trying to prove a negative (raising taxes will hurt the economy). Apparently the ignorant electorate needs to be educated by experience.

Take a moral stand and make the Dimms produce an agreed upon budget before we agree to more deficit spending.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: harleynyc, 12/2/2012 8:48:03 PM     (No. 9045046)

Sadly, upcoming retirees who plan to sell their home to downsize will more than likely be taxed at a new obama capital gains tax, when added to state and city, like here in NY, could total 60%.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: hamrman, 12/2/2012 8:54:00 PM     (No. 9045052)

Who cares what the silly polls say anyway...they are run by O, the Dumbs, and the Loonie Lame Stream News Media. Polls can be made to say what you want them to say...in statistics "figures lie and liars figure"!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: King of all trolls, 12/2/2012 8:54:00 PM     (No. 9045051)

The GOP couldn´t sell a glass of water to a man dying of thirst. Barry is completely incompetent in general, but he is excellent at picking fights and ridiculing his opponents. The GOP should curse him and his groupies by letting them to lead. This is what the stupid electorate deserves. Who is John Galt?

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Tennman, 12/2/2012 8:58:08 PM     (No. 9045057)

Pubbies lost this a long time ago. The MSM has already decided what to print and how to frame the discussion. They´ve drank the class warfare kool-aid and asked for more.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bpl40, 12/2/2012 8:59:11 PM     (No. 9045059)

Raising taxes is simply not the issue. What is riding under the radar is the complete unwillingness of the Illegal Kenyan Monkey to cut any entitlements. The taxes are simply a pea and shell game.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: Bpl40, 12/2/2012 9:03:23 PM     (No. 9045061)

Tax rates is not really the main issue. What is riding under the radar is the complete unwillingness of the Illegal Kenyan Monkey to cut any entitlements. He has the Stupid Party exactly where he wants.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Scribelus, 12/2/2012 9:03:36 PM     (No. 9045065)

Interesting. I suspect that the same fraction of the electorate would have supported raising income taxes on incomes over $100,000. Or $75,000. Maybe $50,000 would begin to lower support. Message is that such persons will support raising taxes on anyone who earns more than they do, with the understanding that the taxes realized will be distributed among them.
What a way to make tax policy!

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Reply 20 - Posted by: fayebeck, 12/2/2012 9:14:03 PM     (No. 9045072)

I am 76 years old and all my life I have heard nothing but "the Republicans are for the rich and the democrats are for the common man". It´s that simple. America despises rich people and love the "unfortunate" poor folk that the rich stole from. Just that simple and it will never change.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Rama41, 12/2/2012 9:14:27 PM     (No. 9045074)

I´m afraid it´s lose-lose for us. Before the election, Obama told an Iowa editor in his "off the record" interview that he expected us to go over the fiscal cliff. When we do, here´s what to expect: A January state of the union speech reiterating that it´s all the Republicans´ fault and a proposal for the largest tax cut ever for the 98%. He now becomes the tax-cutter in chief. Game. Set. Match.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: jntsrgn, 12/2/2012 9:36:27 PM     (No. 9045087)

I am in the 1%. My employees aren´t going to like what I do when my taxes go up.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: smcchk, 12/2/2012 9:43:35 PM     (No. 9045094)

We all understand the principle of not raising taxes on the 2% but the GOP lost control of the message from the start. There is no way to win this battle. Walk away, let it happen and try to figure a way to be smarter next time. As for the Democrats, be careful what you wish for comes to mind!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: Lalo, 12/2/2012 9:55:52 PM     (No. 9045102)

Call me an apostate (I doubt that´s what you´ll call me), but I don´t see why we couldn´t raise taxes on the top one percent. In our utter failure to explain this issue to the public, we´ve probably lost forever.

And the ´attitude´ of the poster above who says he´s top 1% is duly noted. I wonder if whatever he would do would be a matter of absolute financial necessity - or something else....

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Reply 25 - Posted by: pearlyjo, 12/2/2012 10:03:44 PM     (No. 9045108)

Not true #21, we don´t despise the wealthy. We either revere them (professional athletes, actors, singers, etc.) or we are jealous of them (royalty, businessmen, heiresses, etc.) At the end of the day, the liberals want to be those people, heck they are those people. Perhaps it is time to showcase the wealth that is sitting in Congress, the Supreme Court and the White House.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: pickle1, 12/2/2012 10:08:45 PM     (No. 9045116)

They are in on it.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: AltaD, 12/2/2012 11:25:26 PM     (No. 9045173)

I read and generally like the Breitbart sites but I don´t understand their current obsession with these polls on who is winning the debate. The Dems own the media so of course the GOP will get the blame, they can have the best arguements but they will still lose. What matters is if they cave on the budget, not if a handful of people who are polled think the GOP are big meanies.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: snowcloud, 12/2/2012 11:28:19 PM     (No. 9045178)

Polls, schmolls. I´m sick of all of them.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: snowcloud, 12/2/2012 11:29:11 PM     (No. 9045179)

#28, EXACTLY!! Well said.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: UncleCliffie, 12/3/2012 7:07:55 AM     (No. 9045404)

Any reasonable or effective rebuttal to the propaganda put out by the lamestream media will never see the light of day because it would defy the "conventional wisdom" of the media outlets controlled by themselves. We need Allen West to do a "susan rice Sunday show trip" and explain the true meaning of a "spending cut" at all of the morning talk shows.Washington cuts are really just a reduction in growth, rather than a true reduction in spending!

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