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Family shocked to learn
that homeless man who received
boots is their relative

New York Post, by Lia Kim & Pedro Oliveira Jr.

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Posted By:JoniTx, 12/2/2012 7:46:11 AM

They were clueless he was shoeless. The family of the homeless man aided by a selfless cop in Times Square was shocked to find out yesterday that the shoeless vagrant making headlines was their relative. His brother, Kirk Hillman, looked stunned as he saw a copy of The Post with his youngest brother on the front page — and was left speechless. Hillman’s wife told The Post she followed the story on TV — but never recognized the bedraggled beggar as her own brother-in law, Jeffrey Hillman.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: toodles3956, 12/2/2012 8:05:31 AM     (No. 9044126)

He has been living this way since the 1980´s. Evidently this is what he wants to be doing. I hope people don´t blame the family but they will. Many years ago and I forget the program that did it, maybe Phil Donahue, not sure. They found several homeless men, paid for them an appartment, got them jobs, gave them money to start over. Within a few months, every one of them was back on the streets. Anyone remember that?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: ScarletPimpernel, 12/2/2012 8:06:56 AM     (No. 9044130)

This man has chosen to live this way. You can´t be helped if you don´t want to be helped. It appears he is mentally ill, and he should not be on the streets. But stupid liberal policies (I believe from the Carter days) put him there because he can´t be "forced" to be helped. Thus, we have people living on the streets.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: ramona, 12/2/2012 8:16:02 AM     (No. 9044142)

This could never happen in my family.

Then it did.

Whether the homeless man´s choice was due to laziness, mental illness, addiction or a series of unfortunate and overwhelming events, the family experiences the anguish of worrying about their brother´s well-being. Poster 1 is correct - no amount of generosity will help some people overcome homelessness. Thank God that in our case it did. Besides long-distance family support there was a wonderful congregation with individuals who gave generously of their time and resources to provide counseling, clothing, temporary shelter and more. We don´t know the names of these dear Christians but we are grateful to them and their quiet ministry of love.
Ramona (the Pest)

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Reply 4 - Posted by: mominNoCA, 12/2/2012 8:47:44 AM     (No. 9044200)

#2 is right. This man is very likely mentally ill. Families do what they can, but laws tie their hands when they try to do more. The pain of having a family member like this gets compounded by strangers who judge the situation without understanding it. Welcoming their brother to their homes is about all they can do.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: postaway, 12/2/2012 8:57:31 AM     (No. 9044214)

I remember a notorious story from my days in California. In the mid-80´s a homeless man froze to death outside of a fast food restaurant in San Francisco. It was later learned that he came from a wealthy family and had been schooled at an elite prep school in New England but had dropped out and gotten into drugs. No amount of help from the family did any good and he died alone, on the sidewalk.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: balogreene, 12/2/2012 9:18:17 AM     (No. 9044247)

#3, it scares me, there are family members in every family that can and will go off the rails one way or another.
All we can do is our best.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: K.I.S.S., 12/2/2012 10:26:07 AM     (No. 9044348)

As we know, in the United States of America only the mentally ill, drug addicts and alcoholics are "homeless" and live on the streets...because like fools, we pay our "poor" $60,000.00 a year in welfare benefits and 50+ million of them voted to re-elect Obama...this man has likely evolved from alcoholic/drug addict into mental illness...because he is not collecting welfare...and the idiots at the ACLU prevent authorities from committing him...the officers compassion is heart warming and proof that government does not help the needy, only the liars, lazy. illegals and theives!!!

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Reply 8 - Posted by: enuf8, 12/2/2012 10:30:34 AM     (No. 9044361)

Then you have the other side of the story. There is one sitting at 1600 Pennsylvania who knows family being fed by everybody´s tax dollars and does he care. Has he helped other than the use of his name to keep his family from being deported.
Doors are being locked many times to family members who do not live up to the family´s standards and where do they go----to the streets for someone else to carry the burden.
Reared in a family where the unspoken motto was "you always look after your own". The open door policy has lived through me as well.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: navybrat, 12/2/2012 11:25:33 AM     (No. 9044445)

An adult cannot be helped by their family if they do not want to be. The ACLU prevents a mentally ill person from being institutionalized against their will. A mentally ill person will not take meds and will not seek medical help on their own. The result is they are left to the streets, ill and in harms way. Thanks to liberals that know what is best for everyone, the family´s hands are tied.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: otronome, 12/2/2012 11:33:52 AM     (No. 9044464)

The nice story smells very fishy.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: killerbee, 12/2/2012 12:06:13 PM     (No. 9044509)

I have a friend who lost a brother to drug addiction and homelessness. His addiction caused him to be a danger to his family. He was not allowed at any of their homes, but my friend did accompany him to AA/NA meetings when he was willing to go.

Sometimes the family has to let a person go because there´s nothing they can do and the state has taken their power to do anything away from them. Then the state doesn´t take care of the people they´ve claimed. It´s very tragic.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: udanja99, 12/2/2012 4:17:11 PM     (No. 9044793)

I have an immediate family member who is schizophrenic. The last time this person had a psychotic episode, the family was able to get a court order for commitment to a mental hospital. It can be done but it takes a lot of effort and the right judge.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: KimoSaavy, 12/2/2012 6:27:18 PM     (No. 9044921)

And if you offer to buy a meal for them instead of giving them the cash, they cuss you out. They beg for money to be used most likely for drugs and cheap alcohol.

In any event, if these people are corraled and put in mental hospitals, the ACLU will be heard for their illegal hold. If their mental health issues are ignored, we are a cold society. It´s a tough problem and we don´t know how to solve it. Many of those people want to be right where they are. But let´s not forget the old Soviets didn´t have homelessness, they dealt with them. We don´t want none of that.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 12/3/2012 4:49:41 AM     (No. 9045308)

Some of the homeless on the streets are veterans who didn´t get the help they needed when they returned home.

Sometimes the family is lying and wouldn´t help a family member unless a story like this was published. Not everyone can meet their standards and they would rather help a stranger than relatives.

It bothers me when there are commercials that ask for money for the poor in other countries when we have increasing poor on our streets and homeless kids in our schools.

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