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Care Pathway never told
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Half of those on Liverpool
Care Pathway never told

Telegraph [UK], by Laura Donnelly

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Posted By:Attercliffe, 12/1/2012 5:18:30 PM

The study suggests that in total, around 57,000 patients a year are dying in NHS hospitals without being told that efforts to keep them alive have been stopped. It also reveals that thousands of dying patients have been left to suffer in pain, with no attempt to keep them comfortable while drugs were administered. Jeremy Hunt, the Health Secretary, last night described the disclosures from records held by 178 NHS hospitals as "totally unacceptable". He said the failure to consult patients would now be examined by an independent inquiry, which will also look at payments made to hospitals for

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That hospitals were paid to condemn to a painful death a prescribed number of people is so abhorrent I can´t find polite verbiage to describe this version of death panels. It seems that hospitals kept meticulous records of the Liverpool Care Pathway´s deliberate deaths too, too, just like the Nazis did.

  

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Charactercounts, 12/1/2012 5:24:37 PM     (No. 9043452)

This is ghastly, and a warning of what is to come with Obamacare. Hospitals have a financial incentive to not care for patients.

We have had in this country laws requiring that patients have access to their health records. Do patients in the UK have those same rights? If so, they should all start demanding to see all their records.


Reply 2 - Posted by: 4Justice, 12/1/2012 5:43:20 PM     (No. 9043472)

The National Health system in the UK started out with all the bright and shiny messages about how they can do so much for so many and especially help those who are in the country far from good facilities. I watch short films all the time in SHORTSHD and they show all the old british propaganda films from the 20´s to the 70´s. They used the same arguments the Dems use for Obamacare. Now, some 70 years later, the system is not only broken but has become worse than Soylent Green. At least in SG, people didn´t suffer unnecessarily at the end. We need to find a way to stop Zerocare before it goes too far.


   

 

  


 
Reply 3 - Posted by: tren9, 12/1/2012 5:43:34 PM     (No. 9043473)

Mrs Palin, please pick up a white courtesy phone...


Reply 4 - Posted by: KTWO, 12/1/2012 6:04:33 PM     (No. 9043499)

The system probably works better if they are not told.

Remember? It´s not a bug, it´s a feature.


Reply 5 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 12/1/2012 6:51:27 PM     (No. 9043547)

Buy all the poppy crop from Afghanistan and, at least, keep the dying comfortable.

We shoot horses rather than let them suffer.

God save us from those who care deeply and know better.


Reply 6 - Posted by: floridagator, 12/1/2012 7:00:36 PM     (No. 9043553)

B..b..but the dancers at the Summer Olympics told me the NHS was great. I don´t understand. /s


Reply 7 - Posted by: altoona, 12/1/2012 7:14:38 PM     (No. 9043570)

Why should the little people be told anything? Do we deserve to know about Benghazi? Are we asked if we want to send billions to Egypt and the Palis to carry out and spread Sharia? Did it matter to Congress that the majority of the citizenry here were opposed to obamacare? It is but a short step to keeping the plans for one´s impending death a government secret.



   

 

  


 
Reply 8 - Posted by: oh-heck, 12/1/2012 7:18:08 PM     (No. 9043574)

I went searching for statistics and gave up because the UK system is sooo opaque. The 130,000 per year is 0.2% of their total population.

However I found some statistics in the US. Every year 136.1 million make an emergency department visit which represents 45.1% of the population. 17.1 million require admission and 2.2 million require admission to critical care. Percentage wise, 5.65% of the US population are admitted from emergency and 0.72% admitted to critical care.

Roughly 3.5% of the admissions from emergency room would have to be killed by the protocol or 28% of the critical care admissions would be needed to kill off 0.2% of our population each year.


Reply 9 - Posted by: jlw509, 12/1/2012 8:51:08 PM     (No. 9043664)

When it comes here, it will be hailed as enlightened, humane and progressive. It will be sold to us as a "right". Those who object to the program will be lambasted for trying to "impose their morality" --- and the massive, unconsenting killing program iself will have a label that involves some combination of the words "Compassion", "Care", and "Choice".


Reply 10 - Posted by: bob913, 12/1/2012 8:52:31 PM     (No. 9043667)

If you are a republican and end up in a hospital in the near future then you won´t be told you are on a death list.

I ain´t kidding. The socialists will do this. You can bet your life on it!


Reply 11 - Posted by: eorsc, 12/1/2012 9:52:42 PM     (No. 9043711)

Maybe we should register Dem. and vote Rep. Do you suppose that will work?



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