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New ethanol blend could
damage vehicles and void
warranties, AAA warns

USA Today, by Gary Strauss

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Posted By:Ribicon, 11/30/2012 11:53:11 AM

The AAA says the Environmental Protection Agency and gasoline retailers should halt the sale of E15, a new ethanol blend that could damage millions of vehicles and void car warranties. AAA, which issued its warning today, says just 12 million of more than 240 million cars, trucks and SUVs now in use have manufacturers´ approval for E15. Flex-fuel vehicles, 2012 and newer General Motors vehicles, 2013 Fords and 2001 and later model Porsches are the exceptions, according to AAA, the nation´s largest motorist group, with 53.5 million members. "It is clear that millions of Americans are unfamiliar with E15,

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It matters not whether ethanol destroys your engine, yields a net loss in energy, costs more, produces more smog, wastes food and water, creates unnecessary fertilizer runoff in our waterways.

What matters is that legislation (signed by GWB, no less) mandates increased ethanol consumption, and the EPA (which the GOP refuses to defund) insists we use it, no matter the cost.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: paulfromTexas, 11/30/2012 12:09:00 PM     (No. 9041370)

Mathmatics not my strongest suit, I can still cipher with the best of the chalkboard folks.
It takes 11 units of energy to produce one unit of ethanol from corn, and that produces 10 units of energy.
Maybe we should grow more corn, but I don´t think that is the problem.
Why can´t Congress do the math?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: kanphil, 11/30/2012 12:20:08 PM     (No. 9041400)

#1 touches on a very important point. Lawyers--with no technical expertise at all--are making technical decisions, then walking away from adverse consequences. Government does not belong in these matters AT ALL!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: bullhead, 11/30/2012 12:27:14 PM     (No. 9041419)

Another example of the evolution of the United States Socialist Republic USSR). And I thought we won the Cold War.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: slab, 11/30/2012 1:22:00 PM     (No. 9041538)

www.pure-gas.org works pretty well to find 100% gasoline.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: KTWO, 11/30/2012 1:25:33 PM     (No. 9041546)

Bah! Humbug! Old white guys clinging to their fossil fuels.

And "blend" is a racist word.





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Reply 6 - Posted by: cranky, 11/30/2012 1:41:24 PM     (No. 9041590)

I drive a prius. It computes and displays gas mileage every five minutes. It also displays the performance of every tankful of gas if you reset the display when you fill up. I average between 55 and 57 mpg driving on summer fuel. When the switch to winter furl is made the change is immediately noticeable. The average drops to 47-48 mpg. The cost to the public is billions of dollars.



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Reply 7 - Posted by: chumley, 11/30/2012 1:46:47 PM     (No. 9041603)

I have a similar problem with my 2011 Ford Escape. Just shy of 30 mpg in the summer. With winter blends it drops to 26.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: R. Edgar, 11/30/2012 1:58:38 PM     (No. 9041637)

Mitt would have stopped this.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: tubra, 11/30/2012 2:51:03 PM     (No. 9041732)

Since ethanol increases the octane, more timing is needed for the ethanol via the ECU, and there is no feasible way to do this for the masses. Only newer vehicles might be capable of tweaking parameters. I am able to take advantage of the ethanol via custom ECU tunes on my Mustang GT for performance purposes, but to the masses it just causes problems. Oddly enough the top e85 is more desirable than race fuel since it´s octane is basically through the roof (for cheaper) and nets some serious gains on a high compression engine.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: voxpopuli, 11/30/2012 2:55:52 PM     (No. 9041739)

i have a Jaguar XKR..
i notice that in the winter..
oh, forget it..
i have NO idea what mileage i get..

at least it seems to leak less oil in the winter..

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Reply 11 - Posted by: bullhead, 11/30/2012 3:11:00 PM     (No. 9041767)

Thanks #4.

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