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US servicewomen sue
US military over combat ban

Agence France-Presse, by Staff

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Posted By:NorthernDog, 11/27/2012 2:22:24 PM

LOS ANGELES — A group of US servicewomen is suing Defense Secretary Leon Panetta over the Pentagon´s long-standing policy barring women from thousands of ground combat positions, they announced Tuesday. Four female soldiers, including two who won Purple Hearts for bravery in action in Afghanistan, slammed the policy as an "injustice to the women ... who continue to put their lives on the line for their country." "Ever since I was a little girl I wanted to be an Air Force pilot, and I have proven my ability every step of the way," said Major Mary Jennings Hegar

Do we really want to send women into the next Omaha Beach or Iwo Jima?


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Reply 1 - Posted by: TXknitter, 11/27/2012 2:31:13 PM     (No. 9036316)

Getting tiresome, isn´t it? So, stick these complainers smack dab on the front of the front lines.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: fmrusmc0302, 11/27/2012 2:33:30 PM     (No. 9036322)

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Reply 3 - Posted by: fmrusmc0302, 11/27/2012 2:36:48 PM     (No. 9036330)

The Israelis, the Brits and the Canadians have all tried this and they did not implement this PC rubbish as they discovered only 1% could pass the physical standards. With 23 years active and reserve this a disaster in the making but what the heck....what does this old white guy know??

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Reply 4 - Posted by: columba, 11/27/2012 2:37:13 PM     (No. 9036331)

It used to be that our military protected women and children. What wimp would want his mother or wife fighting for him.

The people who filed this suit want publicity or money - probably so that they can have privacy in their padded rooms.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: MassJim, 11/27/2012 2:38:06 PM     (No. 9036336)

"(T)wo who won Purple Hearts for bravery in action in Afghanistan". This is why you should never, ever believe anything you read about the military in the press. Purple hearts are not, I repeat not, awarded for bravery. My hat is off to anyone who receives a purple heart, but I repeat, it is not awarded for bravery.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: fhancock, 11/27/2012 2:40:45 PM     (No. 9036343)

As soon as women have to sign up for Selective Service and also have the same PT requirements as men then I say ok...you could go through the entire stock of women in the US Army and MAYBE 50 of them could make a decent infantryman...it has to do with endurance and upperbody strength and the ability to kill another man at close quarters and possibly with your hands or a knife...both of which isn´t happening for women...I can´t birth a child...women make very for poor infantrymen...life´s tough...it is even tougher when your stupid

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Bevan, 11/27/2012 2:41:29 PM     (No. 9036346)

The Marines are still looking for the first woman to pass the grueling 12 week Officer Combat School Course. Two started the last class. One lasted a day, the second a whole week.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: rtwngprof, 11/27/2012 2:45:26 PM     (No. 9036354)

#5 is correct, the Purple Heart is not awarded for bravery, but for being wounded by the enemy. Additionally, one does not "win" medals; they are not prizes.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: SouthSanAntonio, 11/27/2012 2:47:11 PM     (No. 9036359)

This nation died on 11-6-2012.

With NØbama´s re-election, he can now finish destroying everything that used to be great about this nation.

He started the destruction of our medical care system with NØbamacare.

He destroyed our economy with NØbamanomics.

He started the destruction of our military with allowing openly homosexual service members. He can complete the destruction by allowing women on the front lines.

Yeah, the nation is dead. Now we just sit here and wait for the rotting carcass of the former superpower to collapse under it´s own rot...

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Reply 10 - Posted by: GW_Rider, 11/27/2012 3:08:08 PM     (No. 9036388)

What about A10 pilot Major Killer Chick?

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Michaelus, 11/27/2012 3:21:34 PM     (No. 9036411)

The only solution is to force us to pay for testosterone injections for the Army girls.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Freeloader, 11/27/2012 3:29:43 PM     (No. 9036423)

Wonder if any of these young servicewomen, currently suing Uncle Sugar´s Department of Defense for an equal opportunity chance to be "blown to smithereens," has ever read "Last Letters From Stalingrad," originally published in 1950?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: Mike43, 11/27/2012 3:41:05 PM     (No. 9036439)

We used to call the Purple Heart, the I forgot to duck medal.

"But the overall prohibition against women in ground combat remains, denying women the chance to join infantry and armor units as well as special forces."

I can just see any Air Force Major volunteering for the infantry. They used to leave as soon as they found out we didn´t have cable.

I guess Hegar doesn´t consider being a SAR helicopter pilot to be a combat slot. Out of the 4 plaintiffs; 3 are officers. Not unusual, since officers only rotate into combat units for 1 to 3 years.

NCO´s are there for the duration. I knew Ranger E6´s who couldn´t get out of the Regiment, and elected to leave active duty. Their marriages were shot, their kids didn´t know them, their lower back was weakening, and their knees had no cartilage left. But when it came time to re-enlist, they could only go to the Regiment or RTB. After 10 years in the Regiment, they needed a break.

So come on ladies; welcome to our world.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: 6079 Smith, W, 11/27/2012 3:43:09 PM     (No. 9036444)

"A Few US servicewomen sue US military".... would be a more accurate headline.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Kingbubo, 11/27/2012 4:10:16 PM     (No. 9036475)

#1, then they´d sue for discrimination. If they can compete, let them go.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: vesicant, 11/27/2012 4:42:12 PM     (No. 9036522)

If they can do the job, why not? Just don´t reduce the standards or start talking about oxytocin as a bonding facilitator.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: crill, 11/27/2012 5:00:23 PM     (No. 9036542)

Just finished reading The Outpost. Let them all go, and enjoy what they´ve been missing. If someone else wants to fight for me, then maybe next they can pay my taxes. I´m liking this new America.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: BigGeorgeTX, 11/27/2012 5:07:19 PM     (No. 9036550)

The French need to do some research. The purple heart signifies injury attributed to combat, nothing else. It has nothing to do with bravery in action, as evidenced by John Kerry, although anyone in combat demonstrates courage just by being there. There are other medals awarded for specific instances of bravery.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: Japanorama, 11/27/2012 5:22:57 PM     (No. 9036562)

A few days of each month, it would be a war crime to loose these women against an enemy.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: LouD, 11/27/2012 5:48:44 PM     (No. 9036590)

At least one of Kerry´s scratches (wounds?) was caused by himself, not an enemy. And there is doubt about the others, too.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Cat Ballou, 11/27/2012 5:49:01 PM     (No. 9036591)

When my husband was in Vietnam in 1964, 2 of his buddies got purple hearts for sitting in a bar in Siagon, when it was blown up by the VC, & they lost ear drums. Not all purple hearts are created equal, folks. As for women wanting to be in combat, how stupid, most men don´t want to be there.

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Reply 22 - Posted by: sgtfox of the jarhead clan, 11/27/2012 6:15:09 PM     (No. 9036615)

Run these suing sisters through the ICU at Walter Reed or let them visit the wounded up on 4th floor. It clarifies the mind.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: Ecclesiastes, 11/27/2012 6:38:10 PM     (No. 9036628)

Please, form a unit, DON´T put a special designator on it, send it into combat and see what comes back.

Nothing less than the real world will teach these women anything.

Who knows? Put them in a fight and it might end that nonsense about women "fighting" for their civil rights.

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Reply 24 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 11/27/2012 6:53:25 PM     (No. 9036650)

A retired Naval officer buddy is mentoring another friend´s daughter who is an ensign in the Navy and currently on her first deployment. Figuring he´d be able to help out with her professional development, he told her to e-mail him with questions but more than half of the correspondence he receives concerns her inability to get along with her (female) Executive Officer. The old 2-women-under-the-same-roof scenario. He´s pulling his hair out.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna, 11/27/2012 7:39:00 PM     (No. 9036690)

We don´t use them in combat because it takes them too long to get ready.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: LanieLou, 11/27/2012 8:54:22 PM     (No. 9036753)

Uhhhh... Didn´t I just read only 2 women showed up for these jobs? Let them... but make them back each other up...don´t put a serviceman with them, to take the heat.

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