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WWII code ´may never be cracked´
BBC, by Staff

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Posted By:US Veteran, 11/23/2012 11:41:49 AM

Experts at intelligence agency GCHQ have asked for help in de-coding a message found attached to a pigeon leg, thought to date back to WWII. The dead bird was found in a chimney in Surrey a few weeks ago. But without more information, the code may never be cracked, according to the BBC´s security correspondent Gordon Corera. The code is as follows: AOAKN HVPKD FNFJW YIDDC RQXSR DJHFP GOVFN MIAPX PABUZ WYYNP CMPNW HJRZH NLXKG MEMKK ONOIB AKEEQ WAOTA RBQRH DJOFM TPZEH LKXGH RGGHT JRZCQ FNKTQ KLDTS FQIRW AOAKN 27 1525/6

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Drive, 11/23/2012 11:46:53 AM     (No. 9030611)

It says "Beware the ides of March" or "Who´s John Galt" or "Where´s Waldo" or who cares?

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Rumblehog, 11/23/2012 11:56:25 AM     (No. 9030618)

It says, "If you think British Pub food is bad, try eating the stuff they send us in these tins."

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Reply 3 - Posted by: pizzaman, 11/23/2012 11:57:10 AM     (No. 9030619)

Dear Mary Poppins, you done good leaving the Banks house when you did. Sincerely, Bert.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Keekng, 11/23/2012 12:03:23 PM     (No. 9030629)

Give it to some computer nerds, they will crack it.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: snakeoil, 11/23/2012 12:11:42 PM     (No. 9030642)

Beware of metrosexual Muslims claiming to have been born on the island nation of Hawaii.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: tren9, 11/23/2012 12:12:11 PM     (No. 9030643)

The KEY to figuring it out may be the form used for the msg. They don´t show it completely in the video. It appears to we in English [or American]. The actual code is too short to give you enough for the computers. You must understand that there is a different code used for each letter of the msg. So you do need the code book. And military crypto labs are generally trash-less [everything gets burned, even candy wrappers]. The NSA would keep copies for a limited time and then burn.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: grampus, 11/23/2012 12:12:34 PM     (No. 9030645)

Probablly says something like, "Please send a different bird next time. This little fellow seemed cold and kept trying to get next to our stove here in the trench."

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Reply 8 - Posted by: danoso, 11/23/2012 12:30:21 PM     (No. 9030669)

If it´s a one time cypher it probably never will be cracked. That´s the advantage of the system. It´s not like that´s some big surprise.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: harleynyc, 11/23/2012 12:46:45 PM     (No. 9030689)

I got it:
Hello Muddah, hello Fadduh,
Here I am at Camp Grenada
Camp is very entertaining
and they say we´ll have some fun if it stops raining.
I went hiking with Joe Spivy
He developed poison ivy
You remember Leonard Skinner
He got ptomaine poisoning last night after dinner.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: GoodGrief, 11/23/2012 12:50:45 PM     (No. 9030696)

I broke it. It´s a "book" code utilising the C-Ration instruction sheet for a cheese souffle made from the canned cheese.

It says: "We are burning artillery propellant charges in an attempt to melt this cheese. Send more ammunition. Thank the Yanks. Tom Adkins, HM Sgt. Atllry."


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Reply 11 - Posted by: august9, 11/23/2012 12:52:28 PM     (No. 9030698)

Poster #8----Best laugh, (and first since the election) that I,ve had!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: jkb, 11/23/2012 1:06:46 PM     (No. 9030714)

#8: GREAT laugh. Thanks for that!


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Reply 13 - Posted by: Fosterdad, 11/23/2012 1:08:40 PM     (No. 9030715)

Thank you #8. That was brilliant.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: cinwasp, 11/23/2012 1:17:04 PM     (No. 9030729)

#8, priceless!!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: chumley, 11/23/2012 1:18:06 PM     (No. 9030731)

It looks like the "spy numbers" codes I used to hear on short wave in the 1980´s. Best guess is they were coming from Florida or Cuba. They were 5 number groups spoken in Spanish. Never was able to make sense of them.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: NRA_Forever, 11/23/2012 1:33:08 PM     (No. 9030746)

Probably from a long-lost one-time pad. Good luck cracking that (Although the NSA could probably do it if they wanted to waste a few trillion CPU clock ticks on it).

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Reply 17 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 11/23/2012 1:44:23 PM     (No. 9030758)

Translation: `the cows are dying`.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: bob913, 11/23/2012 1:47:19 PM     (No. 9030762)

I still haven´t figured out BBC

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Reply 19 - Posted by: SGMIsles, 11/23/2012 1:57:26 PM     (No. 9030777)

It says: Beware of a fanatic bearing gifts in 2012 .


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Reply 20 - Posted by: belwhatter, 11/23/2012 1:59:27 PM     (No. 9030782)

Mos of the ww2 code breakers team have probably gone on to their next assignment in heaven.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: joew9, 11/23/2012 2:26:02 PM     (No. 9030802)

It says: "Outcome of war is moot. Socialism will defeat Europe in long run."

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Reply 22 - Posted by: Japanorama, 11/23/2012 2:47:34 PM     (No. 9030822)

Maybe it´s not in code.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: FenwayFrank, 11/23/2012 2:48:19 PM     (No. 9030826)

It´s the transcript to the interview with obamaphone woman, you know!

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Reply 24 - Posted by: unix_geek, 11/23/2012 2:51:16 PM     (No. 9030834)

A one time pad without the key (assuming the key was longer than the message--no repetition) will never be broken. All a supercomputer can do is give all possible solutions--a really, really, REALLY big number of solutions, most gibberish but a HUGE number of clear-text too.

for instance:

fred go jump in a lake
that dinner was lovely
we will attack at dawn
who let the dogs out??

...ad infinitum

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Reply 25 - Posted by: unix_geek, 11/23/2012 3:02:16 PM     (No. 9030847)

oops...one break they may catch is *if* the key was not mathematically random. Still the key length may obviate that. ugh...to much like math and as we all know "Math is hard".

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Reply 26 - Posted by: kanphil, 11/23/2012 3:02:58 PM     (No. 9030849)

Damn it! I am a sucker for cyptic puzzles. This thing will cost me sleep for the next year at least.

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Reply 27 - Posted by: god of irony, 11/23/2012 3:21:25 PM     (No. 9030866)

It says Kilroy was here.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: Shells, 11/23/2012 3:56:05 PM     (No. 9030899)

Thanks folks for my first laughs since the election.

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Reply 29 - Posted by: JHHolliday, 11/23/2012 3:57:47 PM     (No. 9030900)

Putting this out on the internet will start millions of puzzle junkies working on it. Be fun if someone cracks it. Probably something mundane like ´Where is the officers´ baggage. The ****ards are making life miserable for us".

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Reply 30 - Posted by: TXspyder, 11/23/2012 3:58:24 PM     (No. 9030901)

He´s dead Jim!

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Reply 31 - Posted by: FormerDem, 11/23/2012 4:00:04 PM     (No. 9030904)

#27 good luck and be sure to let us know!

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Reply 32 - Posted by: thebeez, 11/23/2012 4:17:07 PM     (No. 9030926)

#8 Great one-thanks

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Reply 33 - Posted by: Subal, 11/23/2012 4:42:06 PM     (No. 9030945)

It´s 0´bama´s birth cert and grades!´s

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Reply 34 - Posted by: Iraengneer, 11/23/2012 7:52:48 PM     (No. 9031102)

Worth reading, ´´The ULTRA Secret´´, the story (long after the war) of the codemakers and codebreakers in Bletchley Park, in England. The modern military organization needs abilities beyond those of a submariner or a pilot. There are reasons for the existence of the No Such Agency in Fort Meade. This account is one reminder.

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Reply 35 - Posted by: Japanorama, 11/24/2012 3:15:31 AM     (No. 9031351)

Folks, keep your day jobs.

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