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What the cease-fire means
to Israel and Hamas

Fox News, by Jennifer Griffin

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Posted By:earlybird, 11/22/2012 12:21:05 AM

The White House was quick to credit President Obama for brokering the cease-fire deal between Israel, Egypt and in turn, Hamas. In the official statement released by the White House Wednesday, it said "The President commended the Prime Minister [of Israel] for agreeing to the Egyptian cease-fire proposal -- which the President recommended the Prime Minister do." (Snip) In fact, Hamas spokesmen had leaked to the press that the cease-fire would begin at 9 p.m. local time on Tuesday, but that was before Clinton had landed in Jerusalem. It would take another 24 hours for the deal to be finalized.

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When Griffin gave this report on Fox News this afternoon, it sounded as though the cease fire, agreed upon, was then held until Hillary got there to "put the final touches on it" and give her and Obie the victory dance.

One of Jennifer Griffin´s in-depth reports on material other journalists will skip entirely or skim over.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: reddfroge, 11/22/2012 12:36:47 AM     (No. 9028739)

In my entire life, over 60 years, the story is STILL the same....Hamas is the ´victim´ while they attack the Jewish State...nothing has changed

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Reply 2 - Posted by: glcinpdx, 11/22/2012 1:13:28 AM     (No. 9028763)

Phooey. Kabuki theater with the PIAPS in the starring role. This will last I predict...two or three days, maybe, until the Hamas starts firing rockets again......

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Grant Hodges, 11/22/2012 1:20:02 AM     (No. 9028766)

The ceasefire is demonstration of the palpable fear which Hamas holds of the IDF.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: planetgeo, 11/22/2012 1:35:55 AM     (No. 9028773)

How many times have we seen these ceasefires? Hamas launches a sneak attack. Israel starts blowing their brains out. But before Israel can wipe them out entirely, the magic ceasefire is ostentatiously negotiated...but not until Hamas blows up another bus or two filled with civilians.

The ceasefire begins. Hamas regroups and gets resupplied with more rockets. They relaunch another sneak attack.

Rinse. Repeat.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: uno_thatguy, 11/22/2012 2:06:55 AM     (No. 9028785)

Cease fire/re-supply! Nothing more!

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Reply 6 - Posted by: Spidey, 11/22/2012 2:25:48 AM     (No. 9028790)

Obviously this deal was in the bag long before Hilldawg arrived on the scene but you have to love the left´s creativity at theatrics.Nobody will say how much US foreign aid was just spent on this deal.Israel needs to reload itself with more iron dome components.

It´s actually pretty funny how Obama hasn´t even been sworn in for the second term yet and they´re already lining up Hillary for 2016.When Bubba went out and campaigned for Obama is wasn´t to give his vocal chords some exercise,there was an agreement to clear the path to these people getting back in the WH.

I hear a lot of people say Hillary would be better than Obama which is really a low bar to set,considering there isn´t that much difference between the two.

Maybe after the next 1 1/2 to 2 years Obama will dump Biden and make her VP to em brazen her credentials.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Nimby, 11/22/2012 3:10:29 AM     (No. 9028801)

Here they go again! Me, my, me?

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Reply 8 - Posted by: JAN, 11/22/2012 5:31:08 AM     (No. 9028844)

Nice to know that the evil doers were willing to allow more people to be killed in order to wait for the photo op of PIAPS and the MB Morsi.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: ROLFnader, 11/22/2012 6:06:22 AM     (No. 9028864)

I´ll be glad when she´s done saving the world and has the time to wash her hair.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: Judith, 11/22/2012 6:38:25 AM     (No. 9028883)

After seeing the savages win the fight in this country, I was hoping the good guys would win the fight in the middle east. Guess not. And the announcement coming just after the bombing on the bus in Israel, and right before the barrage, certainly gave the bad guys the look of a win. Which is what counts in that part of the world. Strong horse is obama´s allies, the muslim brotherhood, weak horse is Israel and liberty.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: M2, 11/22/2012 6:54:53 AM     (No. 9028895)

Where does one begin the list of what is wrong with this "deal", considering that the truce has already been broken AFTER the deal was made? (AFP story on Drudge)

First,
“The goal must be a durable outcome that promotes regional stability and advances the security and legitimate aspirations of Israelis and Palestinians alike,” Clinton said in Cairo.

In her dreams. Israel and the Palestinians know that this "peace deal" won´t last and in fact, only gives a decimated Hamas some breathing room until they re-up.

Second,
Egypt’s president, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, now will be held accountable if Hamas or anyone else fires rockets from Gaza into Israel. On the line is $1.5 billion dollars in U.S. aid to Egypt.

Does Morsi care if the US holds him "responsible" for attacks? Do Americans really believe he won´t claim deniability the next time a rogue rocket or crowded-city pipe bomb clobbers Israeli citizens? I can hear it now: "We agreed to not bomb Israel. We can´t help it if somebody strikes out on their own."
....continued

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Reply 12 - Posted by: M2, 11/22/2012 6:56:07 AM     (No. 9028896)

...continued

Third,
Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal... said that as part of the deal Israel has agreed to ease control of all Gaza’s border crossings, including its sea routes. But...Israel has not agreed to end its maritime blockade of Gaza ... In other words, all ships that want to approach the Gaza coast are still subject to search and seizure. And security at the border crossings into Israel will not be eased, according to sources familiar with the talks... and there is no agreement allowing Palestinians from Gaza to enter Israel.

More lies.

“The President said that he was committed to seeking additional funding for Iron Dome and other U.S.-Israel missile defense programs,"

...except for the US´ defense. Didn´t the Democrats get rid of our missile-defense system a while back? So Obama is made to look like the great Israel-protector while at the same time decimating our military and refusing to fund troops and in fact, even disallowing their absentee ballots.

This entire "peace deal" is a shameful sham. Already, hours AFTER the truce, rockets have already been fired into Israel from Gaza (http://www.france24.com/en/20121122-twelve-rockets-hit-israel-after-truce-police)

So the posturing goes apace, as is de rigeur for this Administration, while the Israelis are still getting shelled. Where is the "peace deal", the "truce"?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: MOBeef4u, 11/22/2012 7:05:19 AM     (No. 9028908)

I just can´t figure out why Israel keeps participating in these cease-fire dog and pony shows. There is never an up-side for them that I can see. In a few days or weeks the rockets will start falling again and be totally ignored by the world until Israel gets fed up and returns fire; then peace suddenly becomes an issue again. An unending vicious cycle.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: hamrman, 11/22/2012 7:15:55 AM     (No. 9028915)

NOTHING!

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Reply 15 - Posted by: LZK, 11/22/2012 7:37:21 AM     (No. 9028945)

Israel hasn´t survived all these years because they are stupid....

I´m sure She got what She needed. Don´t let your guard down -- Israel.

Wonder how much WE the taxpayers had to fork over to make obama look good. Well -- no amount of money can make him look good. WE´ve finally seen him without his clothes and he´s nothing much to brag about....

LZK

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Rinktum, 11/22/2012 7:44:03 AM     (No. 9028955)

Who could possibly trust anything Hamas says? Yet, we will once again give them the benefit of the doubt. They need to be held accountable for the death and destruction that is their way of life. These people are NOT victims. They are willing terrorists whose only goal is the total annihilation of the Jews.

I hope that Israel does not trust Obama to broker any kind of peace. This regime always has an ulterior motive and I suspect it is not peace and security for Israel.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Angry Dumbo, 11/22/2012 10:18:49 AM     (No. 9029189)

#4 nails it. That and Jennifer Griffin is a reporter to be thankful for. : )

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Reply 18 - Posted by: gesundheit, 11/22/2012 10:38:42 AM     (No. 9029233)

If Obama believes negotiating with terrorists is a good policy for ending wars, as he´s forced Israel to do with Hamas, why hasn´t he negotiated with the al-Qaeda terrorists in Afghanistan during his almost four years in office to end the war in that country and bring our troops home?

Surely, with the extraordinary diplomatic skills the MSM is currently attributing to Hillary Clinton, she could have easily talked the Afghan terrorists into signing the same kind of treaty she negotiated between Israel and Hamas.

So why isn´t Hillary inviting al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri to a meeting? I´m sure he´d be just as thrilled to sign a meaningless piece of paper as the Hamas leaders were.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: bamboozle, 11/22/2012 10:45:33 AM     (No. 9029242)

The basic problem, ignored by the liberals, is that hatred of Jews and Polytheists (i.e. Christians who believe in the Trinity) is a core teaching of Islam. See Qur’an (9:30) and Qur’an (5:82) as quoted in a recent PJmedia article for examples. This is an ugly fact not easily accepted by the all religions are equal crowd but one which is fervently believed by many in the Middle East.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: strike3, 11/22/2012 10:47:18 AM     (No. 9029251)

If we all get it, why doesn´t Israel get it? Obama has to be shoveling money and threats around behind the scenes to accomplish his objectives. Israel seems to fall for it every time.

Of course the cease fire is just a short lull that allows hamas to resupply, lick their wounds and start firing rockets again.

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Reply 21 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 11/22/2012 10:58:48 AM     (No. 9029274)



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Reply 22 - Posted by: Philipsonh, 11/22/2012 11:02:36 AM     (No. 9029283)

It is just a tad confusing when I just read an
article on the Drudge Report ( by the A>P> no less ) speaking about statements by the Head of the Egyptian Brotherhood and headlined
"Egypt Brotherhood Leader blasts Peace with
Israel". We all know that Hamas obtains there
weapons overland through Eqypt through tunnels
at their common border.

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Reply 23 - Posted by: RancherJack, 11/22/2012 11:06:26 AM     (No. 9029296)

Pete and Repeat were sitting on a fence.....

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Reply 24 - Posted by: J F Ackerman, 11/22/2012 11:09:32 AM     (No. 9029309)

Israel! Listen up! Your survival depends on telling the United States and the islamophiles in this administration to go to blazes. This American administration seeks your destruction by playing you for peace-loving fools.

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Reply 25 - Posted by: FormerDem, 11/22/2012 11:12:10 AM     (No. 9029316)

In Thanksgiving, here I venture an amateur list of reasons it seems to me Israel belongs to the Israelis. Because they lived there before any of the other claimants and were ejected by force. Because they bought the land they live on, because they were given it by Britain the last other legitimate ruler, because they were assigned it by the U.N., because they conquered it in several regional wars. Because they improved it, because they run a just government where people can live in freedom. Because they protect everyone´s Holy Places. Because the people who claim it drove the Jews out of the places where they lived before and will not allow the Jews a right of return. Because they live there now. And because the principle of putting people back to where they lived in 1945 would throw the entire world into turmoil. Leave them alone for God´s sake.

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Reply 26 - Posted by: Muguy, 11/22/2012 11:24:40 AM     (No. 9029343)

Madam Broomstick brings PEACE--something Bubba tried to do time after time, before one of the wackos in the weird coaltion of groups against Israel would mess up because they really don´t want peace.

Its all phony and will never be resolved--a disagreement ever since Ismael from the handmaiden was not deemed the chosen one...

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Reply 27 - Posted by: snakeoil, 11/22/2012 11:53:11 AM     (No. 9029390)

A cease fire for Hamas just means they ran out of rockets. When they get the next shipment in from Iran the hostilities will resume.

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Reply 28 - Posted by: reefdiver, 11/22/2012 11:53:31 AM     (No. 9029391)

Golda Meir, Israeli Prime Minister´s well known quote:

“Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.” (Statement to the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., 1957)

Still waiting...

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Reply 29 - Posted by: berlin, 11/22/2012 11:58:16 AM     (No. 9029398)

It is time to be thankful for the work Mesdames Griffin and Herridge are doing. Save for those two we would not know what really is going on in Israel and that this so called cease-fire was brokered before Clinton got there and that Benghazi was an organized terrorist attack. Keep up the good work telling the truth, Ladies. It is refreshing to see these Ladies shine a spotlight on this government that presents us with Potemkin villages and lying ambassadors.

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Reply 30 - Posted by: joeyinempirestate, 11/22/2012 12:08:46 PM     (No. 9029420)

This phony "peace" will not hold. Nice try by Hillary to purge Benghazi from her resume´.

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Reply 31 - Posted by: dr fate, 11/22/2012 5:01:53 PM     (No. 9029751)

Apparently, no matter how many times Bibi goes weak kneed and bows to the wishes of our little Kenyan dictator, he will always be given a pass by most conservatives.

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Reply 32 - Posted by: rplat, 11/22/2012 5:14:04 PM     (No. 9029757)

This entire charade is just one big phony kabuki dance with Clinton playing the head dancer. If it wasn´t for Fox and their superb reporters no one would even know about it. I´m not sure where the mainstream media journalists went to college but they should close them all down.

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Reply 33 - Posted by: earlybird, 11/22/2012 6:05:01 PM     (No. 9029799)

What #29 said. See them on Fox. Stop and listen. See their byline. Read or save for later. They are the best.

And John Bolton for perspective and history. Excellent.

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Reply 34 - Posted by: dodge boy, 11/22/2012 8:40:45 PM     (No. 9029905)

Great posts here. As far as i am concerned, obie sees nothing when looking in the mirror.

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