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Navy Fires Two More Commanders
Stars and Stripes, by Cristina Silva

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Posted By:Grateful, 11/21/2012 10:45:06 AM

NAPLES, Italy — The Navy on Monday dismissed two commanders amid allegations of misconduct, weeks before they were both scheduled to assume new commands. Capt. Ted Williams was relieved as commander of the amphibious command ship USS Mount Whitney, and Cmdr. Ray Hartman was relieved as commander of the amphibious dock-landing ship USS Fort McHenry, said Cmdr. Marc Boyd, spokesman for U.S. Naval Forces Europe/Africa. The Navy would not describe the nature of the allegations. Both investigations center on personal conduct, Boyd said.

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What is going on in the senior military ranks? 22 other commanders have been relieved by the Navy this year

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: Griz70, 11/21/2012 10:55:15 AM     (No. 9027565)

Sounds a lot like the Stalin purges before WWII. Would like to know some specifics to warrant the changes, or else it could be purging and revenge.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: Feebie, 11/21/2012 11:00:45 AM     (No. 9027576)

Yup. I am thinking it´s those that were a threat to the current adminstration.

Anyone seen so many "misconduct/infidelity" charges EVER in any adminstration?

Between the Secret Service and Military ranks?

Commies are in control.

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Reply 3 - Posted by: PageTurner, 11/21/2012 11:02:32 AM     (No. 9027581)

It´s called Stalin´s purges. Obama doesnt trust the military and looks to put his own loyalist in instead. Look for Janet Napolitano & David Axelrod types to people the flag ranks now, mouthing the glories of gays in the military, political correctness, birth control and all the other totems of the left. It´s going to get bad out there.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: ebgodard, 11/21/2012 11:10:32 AM     (No. 9027606)

And so Obama continues to gut the military. Traitor.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: capt scurvey, 11/21/2012 11:11:34 AM     (No. 9027610)

Practically speaking, military resistance is the only thing our rogue government would possibly have to fear.

A dollar to a do-nut these guys are all republicans...

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Reply 6 - Posted by: steveracer, 11/21/2012 11:21:57 AM     (No. 9027632)

My Russian-American friends see the similarities.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: babsathome, 11/21/2012 11:26:28 AM     (No. 9027647)

I believe many do fall for the "It;s all about me" mentality when promoted. Many do not fall into the trap though.
Many more are getting ready to leave because Bamster is putting MORE of his Behind Kissers in place to move up the ranks. I pray for our Servicemen daily because we are a military family. Do Not think this is being lost on our enlisted troops. They have learned well from Benghazi- every man for himself. Now if those brass that willingly leave will speak up, corrections could be made.

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Reply 8 - Posted by: No Arm, 11/21/2012 11:37:10 AM     (No. 9027669)

Some of these individuals are solid experienced leaders. They will continue to be of high value in the future.


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Reply 9 - Posted by: god of irony, 11/21/2012 11:41:43 AM     (No. 9027686)

What we are seeing that since 9-11 the military has slacked in enforcing standards puting warfighting and retention first. Now we are slashing end strength everyone is looking for discrimanators to get rid of people.

In the Army they are doing this by refusing to let career NCO´s re-enlist if they had a blemishes as small as being being overweight or failing a PT test even if they overcame those issues and met the standards.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: birddog, 11/21/2012 11:50:46 AM     (No. 9027718)

It might be interesting to track who gets promoted into these 22 positions. I´m guessing it will be a veritable "Rainbow Coalition" of females, Blacks, Hispanics, Middle Eastern and Gay "Military of Tomorrow" types.

The Norks recently fired a military commander by placing him under a pre-targeted Mortar barrage. Not the same..but similar.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: FL_Absentee_Voter, 11/21/2012 12:11:17 PM     (No. 9027761)

Leadership begins at the top. It also fails from the same echelon. I held on from 1993-2001; can´t imagine what it must be like these days. And now there´s a $500 million budget cut looming on the horizon.

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Reply 12 - Posted by: comstock, 11/21/2012 12:42:28 PM     (No. 9027829)

Williams was headed for the prestigious command of one of the few heavy aircraft carriers. He served as XO on a carrier. The path is - command of a deep draft auxiliary - then the the command of a carrier on the way to his flag.

Not much info on Hartman.

I don´t think this is a purge. These guys were pretty low on the feeding chain. They are three or four steps down from the four-stars like Ham, Allen, Sinclair, Patraeous and Ward

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Reply 13 - Posted by: tipover, 11/21/2012 1:09:31 PM     (No. 9027873)

Many of these are due to zipper control problems.

Women on deployed ships don´t help zipper control whether Officer or Enlisted.

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Reply 14 - Posted by: chumley, 11/21/2012 1:22:10 PM     (No. 9027889)

He saw the assignment said "Mount Whitney" and thought it was an order.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: KTWO, 11/21/2012 1:42:23 PM     (No. 9027916)

I suspect it is less purging than emptying command slots so the right people can be moved up faster.

The right people may be of a favored sex or race or sexual orientation. Or have the right political views. Or just be related to a VIP or big donor.

We can only speculate about specific cases. But more generally, in a regime like Obama´s the military will be corrupted rapidly.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: Jubilationtcornpone, 11/21/2012 1:54:50 PM     (No. 9027935)

Post of the day, #16. I salute you, sir.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Grumpy Yee, 11/21/2012 2:05:56 PM     (No. 9027952)

In researching the reasons for the dismissals, I found that most were for administrative deficiencies and command and control inabilities. This what happens when pc runs amok in the services. Real men of character are avoiding commands because they are vulnerable to the pc regulations that are pervasive military regs. One fact also noted that four of five women commanders were relieved of duty because they did not command with strength and respect.
My conclusion is that the new USN commanders who can command are out there and they keep their commands close to their vests and do a really good job. It´s these 22 who failed to uphold the integrity of their positions as commander.

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Reply 18 - Posted by: mitzi, 11/21/2012 2:22:31 PM     (No. 9027973)

I read something just the past few days ... Obama´s getting rid of military leaders who might participate in a "coup."

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Reply 19 - Posted by: lavalette, 11/21/2012 3:50:49 PM     (No. 9028100)

You can be sure that no one is getting three or four stars without being an Obama loyalist, but these command level firings are all due to sexual misconduct which is all due the women in combat and gays in the military thing which is quietly destroying our military culture like cancer,

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