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HHS releases rules requiring
pre-existing conditions coverage

The Hill [Washington DC], by Sam Baker

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Posted By:JoniTx, 11/20/2012 2:13:44 PM

The Obama administration issued new rules Tuesday that require insurance companies to cover people with preexisting conditions — one of the most popular provisions of President Obama’s healthcare law. The Health and Human Services Department also began to implement other popular, but expensive, parts of the Affordable Care Act. Regulations released Tuesday will prohibit insurers from charging women a higher premium than men, and will require plans in every state to cover certain services.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: twinkle93, 11/20/2012 2:17:42 PM     (No. 9025969)

But it is all right for men to be charged more for life insurance.

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Reply 2 - Posted by: tsquare, 11/20/2012 2:23:35 PM     (No. 9025984)

Might as well write a rule requiring men to live as long as women

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Reply 3 - Posted by: Mr. Know-It-All, 11/20/2012 2:26:30 PM     (No. 9025988)

So much for the "affordable" part of the bogus bill name.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: krause, 11/20/2012 2:35:39 PM     (No. 9026009)

Must be nice to tell businesses how to run their operations....without having any business knowledge, or taking any responsibility.

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Reply 5 - Posted by: civilservant, 11/20/2012 2:39:36 PM     (No. 9026018)

FTA: "and will require plans in every state to cover certain services."

OK, news flash........mandates raise costs.

The more mandates, the higher the cost.

I hate democrats as much as they hate America.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: phx4546, 11/20/2012 2:44:19 PM     (No. 9026023)

if you are close to death, you can continue treatment if you agree to register as a democrat and agree to have mail in ballots sent you an address after you die.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: Bevan, 11/20/2012 3:20:14 PM     (No. 9026088)

...and car insurance, #1

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Reply 8 - Posted by: Teleologicus, 11/20/2012 3:35:34 PM     (No. 9026118)

This of course is good news for those with pre-existing conditions. C´est la magnifique ma c´est pas insurance. It is not, that is, insurance. It has nothing whatever to do with insurance. Calling it insurance is misleading to the point of deliberate dishonesty - or abysmal ignorance.

Of course it might be converted into insurance if insurers were permitted to charge actuarially aound premiums for those with pre-existing conditions. I do not know, but I seriously doubt that this is the case. My guess is that they will be charged the same rates as everyone else, i.e. people without pre-existing conditions.

People with pre-existing conditions should assuredly have access to some affordable means of health care - but misusing the term insurance to achieve this is a far more serious error than it might seem.

"When words lose their meaning," said Confucius, "there is chaos in the land."

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Pearson365, 11/20/2012 3:35:40 PM     (No. 9026119)

GOP should demand end of ObamaNoCare as part of any deal on raising debt ceiling and/or extending Bush tax rates. This nightmare adds to our fiscal crisis, and should be ended before it starts. If not repealed, taxes imposed by city, state and federal governments will have increase to pay for exploding health care premiums for government workers and retirees as well as expanded Medicaid.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: previouslyon24, 11/20/2012 4:11:46 PM     (No. 9026173)

A regulation will soon be promulgated making it illegal to be unhealthy, which includes being conservative. The law of gravity is being studied for its racial bias.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Mike43, 11/20/2012 4:27:20 PM     (No. 9026199)

Actually, women, apart from pregnancy, have always consumed more medical resources.

But you can´t charge more for that.


Women drive less, and have a higher per capita accident rate.

But you can´t charge more for that.

Men die earlier; that you can charge for!!

Are we all clear?

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Reply 12 - Posted by: frenesi1, 11/20/2012 4:31:41 PM     (No. 9026212)

Ah, yes, rates should increase slightly every year. I can tell you right now that won´t work.

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Reply 13 - Posted by: formerlyphelps, 11/20/2012 4:42:38 PM     (No. 9026239)

Dead on #8 – when the gov’t steps in and forces private companies to cover high (or guaranteed) risk customers with no ability to manage said risk, it is no longer insurance. What we now have is a mandatory health care participation tax.

However, simply forcing the young and healthy to participate still does not provide enough resources to cover the high risk pool if you can’t charge the high risk substantially more. This is a giant tax increase on every working American – who will have to provide for themselves, for the unemployed, for the illegal, and for those who are much better off but are higher risk. And it won´t be enough, so the program will hasten our date with national bankruptcy.


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Reply 14 - Posted by: veritas, 11/20/2012 6:14:00 PM     (No. 9026390)

So, an "insurer" is prohibited from pricing his product on the basis of loss projections?

How can you tell your builder he can´t take the cost of lumber into account when he bids your house? Lewis Carroll, well and truly trumped, is in a black funk.

Indeed, no longer insurance, but a Federal benefit that a private company is forced to carry [pay for]. They´ll all be out of that market in 4... 3... 2....

#8, as usual, reasons well.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: nonsense, 11/20/2012 6:29:14 PM     (No. 9026410)

The country will never recover from the damage and high financial cost of Obamascare. Just remember to pin the blame where it belongs, on the Demonrats.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: kanphil, 11/20/2012 6:54:36 PM     (No. 9026452)

Since actuarial data cannot be meaningfully applied to pre-existing conditions(the chance of the malady occurring is 100%), coverage is not insurance but rather welfare. If they called it by its right name, there could be a meaningful debate.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: Java D, 11/20/2012 9:29:55 PM     (No. 9026708)

#8, correct French is "C´est magnifique, mais ce n´est pas l´assurance". As a Linguist, couldn´t resist ;)

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Reply 18 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 11/21/2012 1:11:30 AM     (No. 9026893)

"The Obama administration issued new rules"

New rules ? Were they in the 2000 plus pages passed by Congress ?

This is so stupid. All they had to do was put the sick and uninsured into Medicare or Medicaid or the Cadillac federal employees plan.

Why not go directly to universal healthcare ? Alan Grayson said that was on his new agenda.

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Reply 19 - Posted by: heartsurgeon, 11/21/2012 1:59:51 AM     (No. 9026917)

these rules will force private insurance companies to raise rates for everyone, and make private insurance companies less competitive.



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