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Hispanic Caucus chairman rips
New York Times columnist

The Hill [Washington, DC], by Jonathan Easley

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Posted By:KarenJ1, 11/20/2012 11:40:13 AM

The chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus on Monday ripped conservative New York Times columnist Ross Douthat for a piece that argued Hispanics were flocking to the Democratic Party because they were not “assimilating successfully.” Rep. Charles Gonzalez (D-Texas) called Douthat’s column “a rambling piece which reflects his lack of understanding of the diverse Latino community and reaffirms the obvious reasons that Republicans lost Latino support,” in a statement. President Obama took 71 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2012, surpassing his 2008 margin

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In the year 2012 there should not be a Congressional Black Caucus or a Hispanic caucus. It´s outrageous and pathetic. If we had a "white" caucus the Democrats would go insane. Democrats just want to divide us into segments and destroy us.

      


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Reply 1 - Posted by: civilservant, 11/20/2012 11:50:11 AM     (No. 9025622)

Ross Douthat is correct.
Rep. Gonzalez is wrong.

Nothing more to it.



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Reply 2 - Posted by: Cor-vet, 11/20/2012 11:54:15 AM     (No. 9025632)

I think they should try to form a Congressional Caucasion Caucus just to hear the hypocritical screaming!

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Reply 3 - Posted by: LittleHoodedMonk, 11/20/2012 11:58:44 AM     (No. 9025638)

Mr. Gonzales, you are truly a race-baiting jackass. I assimilated in American society, served in the military and used the electronics education [46+ weeks] they gave me to have a great career with many major corporations. My natural abilities were sought after and I was schooled beyond my wildest expectations for free by them.

Oh, I am aware that my Hispanic last name was a selling point [wink-wink], but I had passion for the then fledgling hi-tech electronics industry and could easily install, repair and maintain what others found difficult.

The problem with you and your ilk is that you want Hispanics [minorities] to believe it is through your ´´legislation´´ that they will succeed, rather than their God-given talents. You help foster the idea in many that we are lazy and only take. Well, the only thing I ever took was the ´´free education´´ offered in return for my creativity.

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Reply 4 - Posted by: Johnny Angle, 11/20/2012 12:01:59 PM     (No. 9025641)

What the heck is a "Hispanic"? It isn´t a race. It isn´t a national origin. It isn´t an ethnically homogenous group. It isn´t a disability. Is it merely some tie to the speaking of the Spanish language?

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Reply 5 - Posted by: trapper, 11/20/2012 12:03:08 PM     (No. 9025647)

They are not "Latinos."
They are not "Hispanics."
There is nothing Latin or Spanish about them.
They are Indians who speak Spanish.

If they spoke Chinese we wouldn´t call them "Asianos."

And Douthat is right. Not only have they never assimilated into American culture, they never assimilated into Spanish culture either. They are culturally Indians who learned to speak Spanish.

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Reply 6 - Posted by: valinva, 11/20/2012 12:04:58 PM     (No. 9025652)

The mere fact that they have a HISPANIC caucus is evidence that they do not assimilate well. Univision, Spanish language radio and newspapers. Lack of english proficiancy and demanding ESOL in the public schools. For those who are unaware, ESOL provides all instruction in the the foreign language and is not intended to teach English. These are all evidence that there is very little assimilation going on.

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Reply 7 - Posted by: zephyrgirl, 11/20/2012 12:22:31 PM     (No. 9025702)

Let us consider only native-born Hispanics, U.S. citizens.
According to Steve Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies, which analyzed Census Bureau statistics from 2012:
– More than one in five Hispanic citizens lives in poverty.
– One in four Hispanic-American men 25 to 55 is out of work.
– More than half of all Hispanic women 25-55 are unmarried.
– Half of all Hispanic households with children are headed by an unmarried woman, and 55 percent depend on welfare programs.

These numbers do not improve with time, as they did with the Irish, Italian, Polish, Jewish and German immigrants who poured into the United States between 1890 and 1920. Third-generation Hispanics do worse than second-generation Hispanics in all the above categories.


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Reply 8 - Posted by: rpool, 11/20/2012 12:31:20 PM     (No. 9025728)

Prove him wrong, Charlie. Ah, but you can´t.

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Reply 9 - Posted by: Rolfnader, 11/20/2012 12:32:58 PM     (No. 9025732)

Didn´t think I´d ever go on record as agreeing with anything that was written in the NYT ( beyond Will Shorts , anyway). I must remind Mr Gonzales that a lot of us are pretty sick of seeing everything printed in English as well as Spanish. If he could ´splain that, I´ll learn to say "sorry, I was wrong about your assimilation claim " in Spanish.

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Reply 10 - Posted by: killerbee, 11/20/2012 12:40:23 PM     (No. 9025753)

So the guy basically proves Douthat right with his response. Duh.

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Reply 11 - Posted by: Pete Stone, 11/20/2012 12:41:31 PM     (No. 9025758)

Will everyone (including the furshlugginer Hispanic Caucus) stop pretending that "Hispanics" are a single homogeneous group!
No, Number 5, Hispanics are not all Indians who learned Spanish. That would be some of the Mexicans and Central Americans, but most of them are Mestizo and some are Caucasian. Cubans are mostly Caucasian, African Negro, or mixed-blood. Ditto for Puerto Ricans and Dominicans. Some "Hispanics" come from families that immigrated from Spain (as mine did). Some ignorant people refer to Basques as "Hispanic," which tends to tick them off. (Next time you meet someone with a name like Ochoa, Ibarra, Ascuaga, Laxalt, or Ormachea, I suggest not using the "H" word.)
It´s so easy and so wrong to put people into one facile classification!

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Reply 12 - Posted by: Nimby, 11/20/2012 12:50:49 PM     (No. 9025788)

Anyone with a "D" beside their name have no moral authority to say anything about the position of Latino voters. Capish?

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Reply 13 - Posted by: milwaukeeroad, 11/20/2012 1:01:00 PM     (No. 9025824)

These Americans with Spanish Ancestry sure get indignant when accused of accepting gifts from Santa Claus. As if that´s NOT why they overwhelmingly vote Democrat?

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Reply 14 - Posted by: milwaukeeroad, 11/20/2012 1:05:51 PM     (No. 9025844)

And in response to Pete Stone reply #11, would these folks get upset if I referred to them as Americans? Seems to me the only party designating distinqushing labels for everyone is the Democrat Party.

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Reply 15 - Posted by: Pete Stone, 11/20/2012 1:28:26 PM     (No. 9025884)

"Americans" works for me.

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Reply 16 - Posted by: DARling, 11/20/2012 2:34:00 PM     (No. 9026003)

Flip through the local channels in the Phoenix metro area. There are more Spanish-speaking channels than English-speaking ones.

Go to certain areas in central and south Phoenix and you will find all of the signs and billboards in Spanish. All of the people speak Spanish. They are all poor, and you would not want to get out of your car in those areas.

They do not assimilate. There was a case of a woman who´d lived here for many years, who criticized the police department for not having a Spanish-speaking operator on duty. If you´ve lived in the U.S. for years and still can´t say, "My child is choking," then you must blame the immigrant, not the system.

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Reply 17 - Posted by: mickturn, 11/20/2012 2:34:23 PM     (No. 9026005)

The goal of assimilating is a myth...they want to take over, just like the Mooslimes!

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Reply 18 - Posted by: caddyjak, 11/20/2012 3:36:52 PM     (No. 9026122)

They sure know how to communicate when they go for free stuff like hospitals, food stamps, etc. etc. Also before they go to prison for saying "Stick em up".......

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Reply 19 - Posted by: whyyeseyec, 11/20/2012 4:32:34 PM     (No. 9026215)

Congress is as balkanized as the rest of the country. No wonder we are so dysfunctional.

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Reply 20 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623, 11/21/2012 1:30:58 AM     (No. 9026904)

Hispanic is a US gov made up word.

I question why there is no white caucus or white Christian caucus or why nobody complains.

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